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  1. I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

  2. Julius Chen said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

    That's not a bicycle.

    It is a bicycle-shaped-object.

    Take you money and either get more so you can get a real bicycle, or find a
    used real bicycle.

    p.s. rim brakes are fine, even if they don't have Magic Pivots (tm)

  3. Julius Chen said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

    That's not a bicycle.

    It is a bicycle-shaped-object.

    Take you money and either get more so you can get a real bicycle, or find a
    used real bicycle.

    p.s. rim brakes are fine, even if they don't have Magic Pivots (tm)

  4. Julius Chen said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

    An X Mart 'bike' with one disc will be half as frustrating as one with
    two discs.

    Have you looked at other venues? Thrift store? LBS? Craigslist? The curb
    on garbage day? Hard to do much worse than a $150 'ersatz bike'.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  5. Julius Chen said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

    An X Mart 'bike' with one disc will be half as frustrating as one with
    two discs.

    Have you looked at other venues? Thrift store? LBS? Craigslist? The curb
    on garbage day? Hard to do much worse than a $150 'ersatz bike'.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  6. Julius Chen said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

    It shouldn't require frequent adjustment once it's set up properly.
    Different calipers vary greatly in the ease with which they can be
    adjusted, generally price related. If the disc is warped, you can coax
    it back into shape with your fingers. Just bend it. If I liked the
    bike otherwise, I wouldn't let the rubbing turn me off as it most
    likely can be adjusted.

    Joseph

  7. Julius Chen said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.

    It shouldn't require frequent adjustment once it's set up properly.
    Different calipers vary greatly in the ease with which they can be
    adjusted, generally price related. If the disc is warped, you can coax
    it back into shape with your fingers. Just bend it. If I liked the
    bike otherwise, I wouldn't let the rubbing turn me off as it most
    likely can be adjusted.

    Joseph

  8. "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.


    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

  9. "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.


    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

  10. Jay said:


    "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.


    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  11. Jay said:


    "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.


    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  12. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:


    "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike
    with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad
    and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might
    be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the
    disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of
    adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite
    like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.


    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Dear Carl,

    I absolutely defer to your opinion about all things related to bikes.

    My main issue with Wal-Mart stuff is; it is mostly made in China, or worse.
    Can you imagine?

    Most Americans who buy from Wal-Mart simply do not understand the New World
    Order (aka NAFTA): They are unknowingly cutting their neighbor's throat.

    You and I know what I am talking about. I do not have the time or patience
    to explain it to others.

    Irate J.

  13. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:


    "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike
    with
    disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad
    and
    disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might
    be
    warped.

    Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the
    disc?
    Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of
    adjustment
    will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    clearance between pad and the disc?

    I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite
    like
    one model other than it has this disc brake in front.


    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Dear Carl,

    I absolutely defer to your opinion about all things related to bikes.

    My main issue with Wal-Mart stuff is; it is mostly made in China, or worse.
    Can you imagine?

    Most Americans who buy from Wal-Mart simply do not understand the New World
    Order (aka NAFTA): They are unknowingly cutting their neighbor's throat.

    You and I know what I am talking about. I do not have the time or patience
    to explain it to others.

    Irate J.

  14. Jay said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:


    "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike
    >with
    >disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad
    >and
    >disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might
    >be
    >warped.
    >
    > Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the
    > disc?
    > Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of
    > adjustment
    > will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    > clearance between pad and the disc?
    >
    > I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite
    > like
    > one model other than it has this disc brake in front.
    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Dear Carl,

    I absolutely defer to your opinion about all things related to bikes.

    My main issue with Wal-Mart stuff is; it is mostly made in China, or worse.
    Can you imagine?

    Most Americans who buy from Wal-Mart simply do not understand the New World
    Order (aka NAFTA): They are unknowingly cutting their neighbor's throat.

    You and I know what I am talking about. I do not have the time or patience
    to explain it to others.

    Irate J.

    Dear Jay,

    Actually, I don't know what you're talking about, so please don't
    include me in your bizarre economic rants.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  15. Jay said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:


    "Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike
    >with
    >disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad
    >and
    >disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might
    >be
    >warped.
    >
    > Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the
    > disc?
    > Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of
    > adjustment
    > will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    > clearance between pad and the disc?
    >
    > I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite
    > like
    > one model other than it has this disc brake in front.
    So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?

    J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Dear Carl,

    I absolutely defer to your opinion about all things related to bikes.

    My main issue with Wal-Mart stuff is; it is mostly made in China, or worse.
    Can you imagine?

    Most Americans who buy from Wal-Mart simply do not understand the New World
    Order (aka NAFTA): They are unknowingly cutting their neighbor's throat.

    You and I know what I am talking about. I do not have the time or patience
    to explain it to others.

    Irate J.

    Dear Jay,

    Actually, I don't know what you're talking about, so please don't
    include me in your bizarre economic rants.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  16. I actually came from China. The reason I will ride on Walmart bike or buy
    anything from Walmart or not is not related to whether China is cutting
    somebody's throat or not. I only care about how much $ I am willing to pay
    for what quality of bike I will use. I finally decided based on all input
    from here (thanks!) not to buy from Walmart (may go COSTCO instead - yeah, I
    am still a cheap [censored].)

    At this time, I won't pay more than $350 either for either new or old bikes.
    I used to hate biking - it was my ONLY way to go anywhere from home when I
    was in China, hot/cold, rain/snow any day. And bike there were in general so
    bad in condition that anything in Walmart looks like a brand new space
    shuttle. My dad couldn't afford me a bike more than US$10 then (and anything
    worth more than that would be stolen and end up in bike market nearby
    anyway). He gave me his own who knows how old bike when I was in college -
    the bike probably was worth $8 or $10, but he had to spent like US$3 to ship
    this damn thing by rail over 1,000 miles. It was a heavy Chinese made 28",
    heavy for excercise but not much fun as a means to get around ;-). I had it
    for 1 year before it was stolen. But that is one thing he did for me that I
    will always remember.

    Anyway, today I like to drive cars. I am to bike a bit only to spent some
    quality time outdoor with my little 5 year old sweet pea. She has a
    sparkling Cinderella 12 inches from Walmart. The best bike in the entire
    world as far as she is concerned.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:53:57 -0600, "Jay" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >"Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >>I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike
    >>with
    >>disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad
    >>and
    >>disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might
    >>be
    >>warped.
    >>
    >> Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the
    >> disc?
    >> Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of
    >> adjustment
    >> will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    >> clearance between pad and the disc?
    >>
    >> I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite
    >> like
    >> one model other than it has this disc brake in front.
    >So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?
    >
    >J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Dear Carl,

    I absolutely defer to your opinion about all things related to bikes.

    My main issue with Wal-Mart stuff is; it is mostly made in China, or
    worse.
    Can you imagine?

    Most Americans who buy from Wal-Mart simply do not understand the New
    World
    Order (aka NAFTA): They are unknowingly cutting their neighbor's throat.

    You and I know what I am talking about. I do not have the time or patience
    to explain it to others.

    Irate J.

    Dear Jay,

    Actually, I don't know what you're talking about, so please don't
    include me in your bizarre economic rants.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  17. I actually came from China. The reason I will ride on Walmart bike or buy
    anything from Walmart or not is not related to whether China is cutting
    somebody's throat or not. I only care about how much $ I am willing to pay
    for what quality of bike I will use. I finally decided based on all input
    from here (thanks!) not to buy from Walmart (may go COSTCO instead - yeah, I
    am still a cheap [censored].)

    At this time, I won't pay more than $350 either for either new or old bikes.
    I used to hate biking - it was my ONLY way to go anywhere from home when I
    was in China, hot/cold, rain/snow any day. And bike there were in general so
    bad in condition that anything in Walmart looks like a brand new space
    shuttle. My dad couldn't afford me a bike more than US$10 then (and anything
    worth more than that would be stolen and end up in bike market nearby
    anyway). He gave me his own who knows how old bike when I was in college -
    the bike probably was worth $8 or $10, but he had to spent like US$3 to ship
    this damn thing by rail over 1,000 miles. It was a heavy Chinese made 28",
    heavy for excercise but not much fun as a means to get around ;-). I had it
    for 1 year before it was stolen. But that is one thing he did for me that I
    will always remember.

    Anyway, today I like to drive cars. I am to bike a bit only to spent some
    quality time outdoor with my little 5 year old sweet pea. She has a
    sparkling Cinderella 12 inches from Walmart. The best bike in the entire
    world as far as she is concerned.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:53:57 -0600, "Jay" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >"Julius Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >>I just need a $150~250 bike to bike over weekends. Walmart has a bike
    >>with
    >>disc brake but as the wheel turns I can hear friction between brake pad
    >>and
    >>disc. It is either the disc caliber not well adjusted or the disc might
    >>be
    >>warped.
    >>
    >> Does disc brake requires frequent adjustment so pads don't touch the
    >> disc?
    >> Will the disc warp easily over time (in that case no amount of
    >> adjustment
    >> will make the noise go away)? How easy in general it is to adjust the
    >> clearance between pad and the disc?
    >>
    >> I may just choose to go with models with rim brakes only. But I quite
    >> like
    >> one model other than it has this disc brake in front.
    >So it sounds like you intend to actually ride a Wal-Mart bike?
    >
    >J.

    Dear Jay,

    A while ago, I rode a WalMart bicycle for about 1,200 miles in daily
    4-mile rides:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ccc0c851499eebed

    It worked fine.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Dear Carl,

    I absolutely defer to your opinion about all things related to bikes.

    My main issue with Wal-Mart stuff is; it is mostly made in China, or
    worse.
    Can you imagine?

    Most Americans who buy from Wal-Mart simply do not understand the New
    World
    Order (aka NAFTA): They are unknowingly cutting their neighbor's throat.

    You and I know what I am talking about. I do not have the time or patience
    to explain it to others.

    Irate J.

    Dear Jay,

    Actually, I don't know what you're talking about, so please don't
    include me in your bizarre economic rants.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  18. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Julius Chen said:

    I actually came from China. The reason I will ride on Walmart bike or buy
    anything from Walmart or not is not related to whether China is cutting
    somebody's throat or not. I only care about how much $ I am willing to pay
    for what quality of bike I will use. I finally decided based on all input
    from here (thanks!) not to buy from Walmart (may go COSTCO instead - yeah, I
    am still a cheap [censored].)

    At this time, I won't pay more than $350 either for either new or old bikes.
    I used to hate biking - it was my ONLY way to go anywhere from home when I
    was in China, hot/cold, rain/snow any day. And bike there were in general so
    bad in condition that anything in Walmart looks like a brand new space
    shuttle. My dad couldn't afford me a bike more than US$10 then (and anything
    worth more than that would be stolen and end up in bike market nearby
    anyway). He gave me his own who knows how old bike when I was in college -
    the bike probably was worth $8 or $10, but he had to spent like US$3 to ship
    this damn thing by rail over 1,000 miles. It was a heavy Chinese made 28",
    heavy for excercise but not much fun as a means to get around ;-). I had it
    for 1 year before it was stolen. But that is one thing he did for me that I
    will always remember.

    Anyway, today I like to drive cars. I am to bike a bit only to spent some
    quality time outdoor with my little 5 year old sweet pea. She has a
    sparkling Cinderella 12 inches from Walmart. The best bike in the entire
    world as far as she is concerned.

    Do not top post.
    Ever hear of bicycle maintenance?
    Stick around and learn something;
    as you have nothing to teach me.

    --
    Michael Press

  19. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Julius Chen said:

    I actually came from China. The reason I will ride on Walmart bike or buy
    anything from Walmart or not is not related to whether China is cutting
    somebody's throat or not. I only care about how much $ I am willing to pay
    for what quality of bike I will use. I finally decided based on all input
    from here (thanks!) not to buy from Walmart (may go COSTCO instead - yeah, I
    am still a cheap [censored].)

    At this time, I won't pay more than $350 either for either new or old bikes.
    I used to hate biking - it was my ONLY way to go anywhere from home when I
    was in China, hot/cold, rain/snow any day. And bike there were in general so
    bad in condition that anything in Walmart looks like a brand new space
    shuttle. My dad couldn't afford me a bike more than US$10 then (and anything
    worth more than that would be stolen and end up in bike market nearby
    anyway). He gave me his own who knows how old bike when I was in college -
    the bike probably was worth $8 or $10, but he had to spent like US$3 to ship
    this damn thing by rail over 1,000 miles. It was a heavy Chinese made 28",
    heavy for excercise but not much fun as a means to get around ;-). I had it
    for 1 year before it was stolen. But that is one thing he did for me that I
    will always remember.

    Anyway, today I like to drive cars. I am to bike a bit only to spent some
    quality time outdoor with my little 5 year old sweet pea. She has a
    sparkling Cinderella 12 inches from Walmart. The best bike in the entire
    world as far as she is concerned.

    Do not top post.
    Ever hear of bicycle maintenance?
    Stick around and learn something;
    as you have nothing to teach me.

    --
    Michael Press

  20. Michael Press said:

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    Julius Chen said:

    I actually came from China. The reason I will ride on Walmart bike or buy
    anything from Walmart or not is not related to whether China is cutting
    somebody's throat or not. I only care about how much $ I am willing to pay
    for what quality of bike I will use. I finally decided based on all input
    from here (thanks!) not to buy from Walmart (may go COSTCO instead - yeah, I
    am still a cheap [censored].)

    At this time, I won't pay more than $350 either for either new or old bikes.
    I used to hate biking - it was my ONLY way to go anywhere from home when I
    was in China, hot/cold, rain/snow any day. And bike there were in general so
    bad in condition that anything in Walmart looks like a brand new space
    shuttle. My dad couldn't afford me a bike more than US$10 then (and anything
    worth more than that would be stolen and end up in bike market nearby
    anyway). He gave me his own who knows how old bike when I was in college -
    the bike probably was worth $8 or $10, but he had to spent like US$3 to ship
    this damn thing by rail over 1,000 miles. It was a heavy Chinese made 28",
    heavy for excercise but not much fun as a means to get around ;-). I had it
    for 1 year before it was stolen. But that is one thing he did for me that I
    will always remember.

    Anyway, today I like to drive cars. I am to bike a bit only to spent some
    quality time outdoor with my little 5 year old sweet pea. She has a
    sparkling Cinderella 12 inches from Walmart. The best bike in the entire
    world as far as she is concerned.

    Do not top post.
    Ever hear of bicycle maintenance?
    Stick around and learn something;
    as you have nothing to teach me.

    geeze, that is the most unwarranted, arrogant, small-minded, spiteful
    [censored] i've ever seen on r.b.t. and that's no mean feat.

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