Disc brake questions.

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Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc brakes
similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest hydraulic
disc brakes?

The only negative I've heard about Avid mechs is that if the
pigtail on the cable is too long it can jam the brake and
cause a crash.

I have the Avids on one bike and Hope C2s on another. The
Hopes really are better for a front brake - but they cost a
lot more and the Avids are still pretty good. Good enough
that I think I'm going to switch to an Avid on the rear of
each bike to take advantage of Avid's super-easy caliper
alignment system when swapping wheels.
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PeteCresswell

On 4/4/04 3:21 AM, in article [email hidden],

Tetsuo Shima said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc brakes
similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest hydraulic
disc brakes?

I don't think the best and cheapest come in the same box

mtbchip said:

On 4/4/04 3:21 AM, in article [email hidden]-

berlin.de said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc
brakes similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest
hydraulic disc brakes?

I don't think the best and cheapest come in the same box

That's for sure. I do have several buddies though that
are riding Deore hydraulics and are really happy with
them. I think that could pretty close to the best value
brakes today.

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Perre

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RE/

Quoted message said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc
brakes similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest
hydraulic disc brakes?

The only negative I've heard about Avid mechs is that if
the pigtail on

the

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cable is too long it can jam the brake and cause a crash.

I have the Avids on one bike and Hope C2s on another. The
Hopes really

are

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better for a front brake - but they cost a lot more and
the Avids are

still

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pretty good. Good enough that I think I'm going to switch
to an Avid on

the

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rear of each bike to take advantage of Avid's super-easy
caliper alignment system when swapping wheels.
--
PeteCresswell

I've got a pair of Tektros and i've noticed that the same
would happen also if the cable got in the way, (it was cured
by slightly bending the cable out the way of the disc.)

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On 4/4/04 3:21 AM, in article

[email hidden],

Quoted message said:

Tetsuo Shima said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc
brakes similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest
hydraulic disc brakes?

I don't think the best and cheapest come in the same box

Ok then, the best budget hydraulic disc brake. 😉

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mtbchip said:

On 4/4/04 3:21 AM, in article [email hidden]-
berlin.de, "Tetsuo Shima" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc
brakes similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest
hydraulic disc brakes?

I don't think the best and cheapest come in the same box

That's for sure. I do have several buddies though that
are riding Deore hydraulics and are really happy with
them. I think that could pretty close to the best value
brakes today.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Ta. 🙂

Tetsuo Shima said:

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On 4/4/04 3:21 AM, in article

[email hidden],

Quoted message said:

Tetsuo Shima said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc
brakes similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest
hydraulic disc brakes?

I don't think the best and cheapest come in the same box

Ok then, the best budget hydraulic disc brake. 😉

I had some ProMax hydraulics on my DS bike, and I loved
them. They had great power, good feel, and were really
pretty cheap. Surprisingly good brakes.

miles

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I had some ProMax hydraulics on my DS bike,

miles

DS bike?
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Slacker

Slacker said:

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I had some ProMax hydraulics on my DS bike,

miles

DS bike?

Dumb [censored].

Bill "cranks had a low (i)Q factor" S.

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RE/

Quoted message said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc
brakes similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest
hydraulic disc brakes?

The only negative I've heard about Avid mechs is that if
the pigtail on the cable is too long it can jam the brake
and cause a crash.

I have the Avids on one bike and Hope C2s on another. The
Hopes really are better for a front brake - but they cost
a lot more and the Avids are still pretty good. Good
enough that I think I'm going to switch to an Avid on the
rear of each bike to take advantage of Avid's super-easy
caliper alignment system when swapping wheels.

That's really the great part about Avids. Set-up is so easy
- so much easier than Vs, and they are just plain
inexpensive. Replacement parts are easy to come by, and
everybody and their dog sells them on eBay.

The pigtail issue really isn't one if you follow the
directions. 20mm max (IIRC) from the fixing bolt; I run mine
at 15mm. I like Hayes hydraulics, but some folks have
troubles with them. I never did, but maybe I'm lucky. Avids
are fantastic for the money, and damn near idiot-proof.
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Jonesy

Slacker said:

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I had some ProMax hydraulics on my DS bike, miles

DS bike?
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Slacker

Yup. It's gone now, but maybe I'll get another in the
future. It was kinda fun

Miles

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Avids are fantastic for the money, and damn near

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idiot-proof.

Heheheh, good job they are, eh Jonesy?

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',;~}~

Shaun aRe

mtbr.commtbr.comOpen ↗

Go to the above site and check out the product reviews.
Anyone can write a review and amazingly the site works
really well. I used it to check out disc brakes before I
bought some and am glad I did. Of course there are a few
reviews that are written by people that have a vested
interest in the product they review, but you can usually
spot them and they get overwhelmed by real reviews anyway.

Mikey says "try it you'll like it"

Tetsuo Shima said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc brakes
similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest hydraulic
disc brakes?

Notice everyone likes the disc brake they have best. Of
course they have only tried one or two and have learned to
live with the one they have. Never settle on advice from a
person that is only familiar with one product.

Tetsuo Shima said:

Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc brakes
similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest hydraulic
disc brakes?

"Tetsuo Shima" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c4onje$2j8g1a$1@ID-
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Firstly, are all the mountings and fixings for disc brakes
similar/same? And what are the best and cheapest hydraulic
disc brakes?

I have had Shimanos, both the 556 Deores and the first XT 4
cylinder brakes. Work well but I have to constantly f%&^
around with them to stop them rubbing. I don't think the
rubbing affects performance but the sound drives me insane
on long, smooth descents.

I shim, re-centre the pistons, use the coke can trick, pray
to Allah and things are good for a ride or two, then the god
damned dragging starts again and my language deteriorates.
God help me if I remove a wheel and put it back on. That
invaraibly seems to cause the rubbing noise, even if I screw
around with the tension on the QR lever.

It has me mystified. Any ideas?

But to answer the original question, my Shimanos work well
and are consistent. Discs are definitely the way to go on
Canada's west coast. And if I ride with a walkman, earplugs,
or my wife complaining, I don't notice the brake noise.

My buddy has Hayes hydraulics and has similar complaints,
but he's not as finnicky as me so it doesn't bother him. I
just hate funny noises.

BTW if you get the Shimanos and the noise does bother you,
you can borrow my wife for 1 million dollars. OK, how about
10 dollars? OK, just the cost of shipping....

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I shim, re-centre the pistons, use the coke can trick,
pray to Allah and things are good for a ride or two, then
the god damned dragging starts again and my language
deteriorates. God help me if I remove a wheel and put it
back on.

You sound like me, as I suspect your brakes sound like mine.
Is the coke can trick similar to the playing card trick? I
have to remove my front wheel to get my bike in my truck, so
I fiddle with my front brake constantly too (Shimano Deore
525). They seem to get less finicky as the pads wear down
for some reason.

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Neil <[email hidden]> wrote in
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I shim, re-centre the pistons, use the coke can trick,
pray to Allah and things are good for a ride or two, then
the god damned dragging starts again and my language
deteriorates. God help me if I remove a wheel and put it
back on.

You sound like me, as I suspect your brakes sound like
mine. Is the coke can trick similar to the playing card
trick? I have to remove my front wheel to get my bike in
my truck, so I fiddle with my front brake constantly too
(Shimano Deore 525). They seem to get less finicky as the
pads wear down for some reason.

Yes, I think the coke can trick is the same as the card
trick. It's all witch craft. Even when the LBS fixes the
brakes, they end up the same way after a few rides. You
interested in the wife? She's glaring at me right now.....
Maybe I need to face my brake mounts? None of the LBSs in my
town seem to own the tools to do this though.

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Yes, I think the coke can trick is the same as the card
trick. It's all witch craft. Even when the LBS fixes the
brakes, they end up the same way after a few rides. You
interested in the wife? She's glaring at me right now.....
Maybe I need to face my brake mounts? None of the LBSs in
my town seem to own the tools to do this though.

I really think the problem is that the calipers simply do
not consitantly return to the same spot when the lever is
released. I've often done the pad centering
thing...loosening the caliper mounting screws, squeezing the
brake, then retighting the screws. That should center the
calipers on the rotor and allow both pads to move clear
evenly when the lever is released. Usually that adjustment
will work, but often it doesn't, and it seems like one pad
stubbornly refuses to move far enough away from the rotor.

The brakes do seem to work just fine in their actual
purpose, though.

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I really think the problem is that the calipers simply do
not consitantly return to the same spot when the lever is
released.

Sorry, I meant the pistons, not calipers.