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  1. David Hoy said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well
    as it should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded
    the top of them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on
    again. They were the same , can anyone give me any advice what to
    clean or do with them and the disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

    1. What make and model disc brake? There are many and either hydraulic or
    mechanical.

    2. When you pull the brake lever, do you touch your bar?

    3. You only have "a brake"? Do you have a different type of brake in the
    front and rear?

    4. Did you clean the rotor as well as the pads?

    5. Did you accidentally spill lube on the pads?

    6. How old are the pads?

  2. "David Hoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well as


    it

    Quoted message said:

    should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded the top of
    them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again. They were the
    same , can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with them and the
    disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

    Need more info. What brand? Are your brake pads broken in? Did the brakes
    work better before? Was your pads contaminated with oil?

    I've never cleaned my pads or rotors. I only had to replace the pads as
    they wore out and only dealth with loss of power as the new pads were being
    broken in.

  3. Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well as it
    should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded the top of
    them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again. They were the
    same , can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with them and the
    disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

  4. Quoted message said:

    4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?

    The rotor is the disc itself.

    Quoted message said:

    5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats why I
    sanded the top layer of dirt and slight oil.

    That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or not) so need
    replacing. The disc itself will also be contaminated, so will need cleaning
    thoroughly before you introduce the new pads. Use soapy water followed by
    rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.

    The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before the performance
    comes in full.

    Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway... don't feel bad about
    having to replace them.

    Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil next time.

    HTH

    --
    Mark

  5. Hoy Family said:

    Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be that bad , just a
    matter of sanding it over the pad and it would work again . What price would
    u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads.
    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?

    The rotor is the disc itself.

    Quoted message said:

    5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats why I
    sanded the top layer of dirt and slight oil.

    That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or not) so need
    replacing. The disc itself will also be contaminated, so will need

    cleaning

    Quoted message said:

    thoroughly before you introduce the new pads. Use soapy water followed by
    rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.

    The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before the performance
    comes in full.

    Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway... don't feel bad about
    having to replace them.

    Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil next time.

    HTH

    --
    Mark

    You need to get pads for the model of you disc brakes. Pads are
    specific to the manufacturer and run from US$12 to US$25.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  6. 1. Its mechanical , cable
    2. No it dosent
    3. It has a V brake on the back .
    4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
    5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats why I sanded the
    top layer of dirt and slight oil. They are a light sand colour.
    6. They are about 2 years old id say but they look fine loads of pad on
    them.
    "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Hoy said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well
    as it should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded
    the top of them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on
    again. They were the same , can anyone give me any advice what to
    clean or do with them and the disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

    1. What make and model disc brake? There are many and either hydraulic


    or

    Quoted message said:

    mechanical.

    2. When you pull the brake lever, do you touch your bar?

    3. You only have "a brake"? Do you have a different type of brake in the
    front and rear?

    4. Did you clean the rotor as well as the pads?

    5. Did you accidentally spill lube on the pads?

    6. How old are the pads?

  7. All I can say the disc gets very warm because its not actualy stopping you ,
    you have to sorta hold it in and it dosent actually stop you completly but
    just enough to get round the corner, or use your feet stopping. So it isnt
    gripping the disc properly ?

    David
    "Hoy Family" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    1. Its mechanical , cable
    2. No it dosent
    3. It has a V brake on the back .
    4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
    5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats why I sanded


    the

    Quoted message said:

    top layer of dirt and slight oil. They are a light sand colour.
    6. They are about 2 years old id say but they look fine loads of pad on
    them.
    "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Hoy said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well
    as it should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded
    the top of them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on
    again. They were the same , can anyone give me any advice what to
    clean or do with them and the disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

    1. What make and model disc brake? There are many and either hydraulic


    or

    Quoted message said:

    mechanical.

    2. When you pull the brake lever, do you touch your bar?

    3. You only have "a brake"? Do you have a different type of brake in


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    front and rear?

    4. Did you clean the rotor as well as the pads?

    5. Did you accidentally spill lube on the pads?

    6. How old are the pads?

  8. Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be that bad , just a
    matter of sanding it over the pad and it would work again . What price would
    u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads.
    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?

    The rotor is the disc itself.

    Quoted message said:

    5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats why I
    sanded the top layer of dirt and slight oil.

    That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or not) so need
    replacing. The disc itself will also be contaminated, so will need


    cleaning

    Quoted message said:

    thoroughly before you introduce the new pads. Use soapy water followed by
    rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.

    The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before the performance
    comes in full.

    Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway... don't feel bad about
    having to replace them.

    Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil next time.

    HTH

    --
    Mark

  9. Hoy Family said:

    Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be that bad ,
    just a matter of sanding it over the pad and it would work again .
    What price would u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads.

    Before you buy new ones, place your old ones on the stove (the metal-coil
    range is good) until the oil in the pad burns off. It should work as good
    as new.

    I did this on my grease-contaminated pads and now they're on the too-strong
    side...

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training


  10. Quoted message said:

    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?

    The rotor is the disc itself.

    Quoted message said:

    5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats why I
    sanded the top layer of dirt and slight oil.

    That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or not) so need
    replacing. The disc itself will also be contaminated, so will need
    cleaning thoroughly before you introduce the new pads. Use soapy
    water followed by rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.

    The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before the
    performance comes in full.

    Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway... don't feel bad
    about having to replace them.

    Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil next time.

    HTH

    --
    Mark

    Hoy Family said:

    Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be that bad ,
    just a matter of sanding it over the pad and it would work again .
    What price would u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads.

    Looks as though you might be in the UK (ntlworld). Take a look at chain
    reaction to get an idea of replacement pad prices, you won't find them much
    cheaper elsewhere.

    <http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/categories.asp?category=Brake+Pads&thumb
    nails=true>

    You'll need to look for an exact make/model match to the disc brakes on your
    bike (or at least the Fibrax equivelent copy; few £ cheaper). If in doubt
    take the bike down to a shop and ask for advice.

    I think you'll find the pad swap simple, it will take longer to give that
    rotor a good clean!
    --
    Mark

  11. Try squirting water on the pads while ridin.. its not as hard as it
    sounds and use alot of water to break them in.. it works

    David Hoy said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well as it
    should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded the top of
    them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again. They were the
    same , can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with them and the
    disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

  12. "Hoy Family" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be that bad , just a
    matter of sanding it over the pad and it would work again . What price


    would

    Quoted message said:

    u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads.
    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    (People here prefer you answer below the text you quote, or answer below
    each point you are tackling, by the way - just trying to help!)

    ',;~}~

    OK, you *MAY* not need new pads - as someone else said, scrub the rotor
    (disc) real clean - wire wool or a green scrubbing pad and dishwashing
    liquid work well for me.

    Next, you can heat those pads up some, which will burn most of the oil
    off/out - don't go too hot, though, or you may break the bond between metal
    and friction material. Just heat 'em until they start smoking a little.

    Next, put it all back together, and smear the disc with wet mud - fine,
    silty mud with no big stones. Now, ride and brake - repeat until performance
    is returned.

    The mud helps bed things all back in again, and also helps draw out any
    remaining oily [censored] from the pads.

    Hope that helps!

    Shaun aRe

  13. Ok i put the pads in the oven , and let them sit for a while took them out
    rubbed a paper towel on both of them put thm all back in and they are
    basically the same , So I have "Chilli 550" Forks, which came from a
    Barracuda Slalom , the disc brakes has a name called Quad amd 3 or omd 3 im
    not sure. They are yellow

    Can anyone tell me where I can get info one these forks and maybe buying new
    pads.
    "Creeper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Try squirting water on the pads while ridin.. its not as hard as it
    sounds and use alot of water to break them in.. it works

    David Hoy said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well as


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded the top of
    them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again. They were


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same , can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with them and


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

  14. Hoy Family said:

    Ok i put the pads in the oven , and let them sit for a while took them out
    rubbed a paper towel on both of them put thm all back in and they are
    basically the same , So I have "Chilli 550" Forks, which came from a
    Barracuda Slalom , the disc brakes has a name called Quad amd 3 or omd 3 im
    not sure. They are yellow

    Ah, I think we've found your problem.

    The problem you have is that you have [censored] brakes. No amount of baking,
    rubbing mud on them or divine brake dancing will make them work well.

  15. Just to add my two pence of advice...

    Everyone says "don't get oil on the pads and rotor". In my experience, this
    has to be taken to the extreme. Even a finger print on the pad will
    noticably decrease breaking performance. Keep the pads and rotor absolutely
    oil-less.

    And be careful with that "disc brake cleaner" fluid you get from bike shops.
    Some disc breaks (like my Hayes HMX-1 mechs) will actually be damaged by the
    "disc brake cleaner" - on the HMX-1s you have to use a special alcohol spray
    that you can buy from electronics shops like Maplin.

    Thanks,
    Jack

    "Creeper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Try squirting water on the pads while ridin.. its not as hard as it
    sounds and use alot of water to break them in.. it works

    David Hoy said:

    Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but not as well as


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and sanded the top of
    them any access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again. They were


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same , can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with them and


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    disc to make them work any better.

    Thanks alot .

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