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  1. I've been on a major truffle kick here recently. Under
    extreme pressure from the chocolate police, I even turned
    my back on my beloved Nestle's semisweet chips and bought
    some fancy stuff online, Guittard's classic bittersweet.

    I typically dip in white chocolate. I tore myself away
    from the Baker's brand and bought some from El Rey. My
    question is how can I make the shells thinner without
    making them softer? From what I read in the chocolate
    descriptions, some chocolate melts thinner than others,
    but I'm not sure exactly what this is a function of. I
    don't see that many options in selecting white chocolate.

    Thanks, Michael

  2. Mmmm - thick white chocolate. Ok, you want them thinner though.
    Either let your centers
    get a bit warmer so that they don't flash freeze the coating, or work
    in a warmer environment. The longer
    the coating takes to harden, the more time it has to run off. Maybe.
    That's all assuming your coating is warm
    enough.

    Greg Zywicki

  3. Thanks for the suggestions, Greg. I don't have any fancy
    apparatus to keep the chocolate a consistent temperature
    while I'm doing the dipping, but I start out with it as warm
    as I dare make it, around 120 degrees F.

    And your suggestion to not let the centers get so cold is
    valid, too. The only issue there is that I've been adding
    more and more cream to the centers to make them softer
    in the end product, so if they aren't really hardcore cold,
    they tend to start bleeding into the dipping chocolate.

    Playing around, I've come up with some orange truffles
    that I'm really happy with. I will post a recipe for them
    after I make them a couple more times.

    Again, thank you for the comments.

    Michael

  4. at Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:59:05 GMT in <1110283145.249577.102530
    @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden] (Michael) wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    I've been on a major truffle kick here recently. ...

    I typically dip in white chocolate. I tore myself away
    from the Baker's brand and bought some from El Rey. My
    question is how can I make the shells thinner without
    making them softer? From what I read in the chocolate
    descriptions, some chocolate melts thinner than others,
    but I'm not sure exactly what this is a function of.

    You need to add extra cocoa butter which is what determines, in the main,
    the viscosity of melted chocolate. More cocoa butter = lower viscosity. You
    can get cocoa butter from http://www.chocosphere.com. Don't be tempted,
    however, to get the cocoa butter you can usually find in drugstores and
    other locations for cosmetic use. It's very low grade (= tastes terrible)
    and may have been processed in ways that make it unsafe to eat.

    Icoa is 34% cocoa butter (and 37.8% total fat) - a relatively high-
    viscosity formulation. You want about 45% cocoa butter for a thin coating,
    so you need to add cocoa butter in a ratio of 5 parts chocolate to 1 part
    cocoa butter.

    --
    Alex Rast
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  5. Alex wrote:

    You need to add extra cocoa butter which is what determines, in the
    main,
    the viscosity of melted chocolate. More cocoa butter = lower viscosity.

    ***********
    Ah! I see now! When I first read your post, I was confused, because
    I thought that cocoa butter is what the white chocolate I'm using is
    comprised of, but sugar is a main ingredient in white chocolate, too!
    So I need either white chocolate with less sugar or else I need to add
    the pure cocoa butter that you mention.

    I will get some from Chocosphere. I've just about finished off that 10
    lb bar of Guittard classic bittersweet I got, and I'd like to try about
    a
    half dozen of the other lower priced brands. I want to order before
    the
    danger of hot weather comes on. I don't want to pay extra for cooling.

    Thanks, Alex!

    Michael

  6. at Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:22:51 GMT in <1110370971.276260.201840
    @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden] (Michael) wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    Alex wrote:

    You need to add extra cocoa butter which is what determines, in the
    main,
    the viscosity of melted chocolate. More cocoa butter = lower viscosity.

    ***********
    Ah! I see now! When I first read your post, I was confused, because
    I thought that cocoa butter is what the white chocolate I'm using is
    comprised of, but sugar is a main ingredient in white chocolate, too!
    So I need either white chocolate with less sugar or else I need to add
    the pure cocoa butter that you mention.


    Keep using the El Rey Icoa white chocolate because it's easily the best
    white chocolate on the market. And even if a white chocolate were to have a
    lower sugar content that wouldn't guarantee higher cocoa butter content,
    because there is a third component of white chocolate : milk. And almost
    invariably if the sugar is reduced it's the milk proportion that would go
    up and not the cocoa butter proportion.

    The Gourmet Bittersweet you got is the best value-for-money proposition in
    chocolate and you won't be able to buy a better chocolate pretty much at
    any price (the only, possible, exception : the Amedei Chuao). But as for
    experimenting with cheaper brands for the sake of seeing the differences,
    go for it. My recommendations for the top 6 "cheap" chocolates:

    Lindt Excellence 85%
    Dolfin Chocolat Noir 70%
    Cote D'Or Noir de Noir Intense 70%
    Guittard L'Harmonie 64%, 275g bar
    Cafe Tasse Noir 59%
    Callebaut Dark 500g Bloc 55%

    --
    Alex Rast
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