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  1. Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at the
    Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for figs. The
    lady working there didn't have any figs, but she assured us that they'd be
    getting them that very night. While we were there, she asked us whether we'd
    ever heard of jujubes [2]. I was familiar with them from a Korean chicken
    dish, and told her so. Hearing that, she gave me a bag with about a pound of
    plum-sized jujubes and told me to have fun with them.

    The Korean dish I'd had consists of a chicken stuffed with jujubes and
    ginseng, then steamed. I wanted something in a slightly different direction;
    my idea was to cut up the jujubes, remove the pits, and use them as a bed on
    which to cook a cut-up chicken. I described it to Lin, and here's what she
    did:

    1 pound jujubes
    1 large onion
    1 whole chicken
    cinnamon
    olive oil
    apple juice
    salt and black pepper to taste
    hot paprika

    Preheat oven to 350F.

    Cut jujubes in half longitudinally and remove the pits. Put the jujubes into
    a thirteen-by-nine-inch pan. (Lin used a Pyrex pan.) Roughly chop onion and
    scatter over jujubes. Pour apple juice into the pan to about three-eighths
    of an inch up the side of the pan.

    Cut chicken into quarters. Drizzle lightly with olive oil and season
    generously with salt, black pepper, and hot paprika. (Coarse salt and
    freshly-ground black pepper are preferred here.)

    Put pan into the oven and bake for about an hour and fifteen minutes. Remove
    pan from oven, tent with foil, and allow to rest for ten minutes.

    Serves 4

    [1] http://bleulune.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/saturday_was_gl.html
    [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujube

    We had this with jasmine rice and corn. I'm not sure whether we have any
    leftover jujubes; I'm thinking of making a pork roulade with them if we do.
    The jujubes came out very much like leathery-skinned apples, with a delicate
    fragrance of their own. I plan to bring some of the chicken and jujubes back
    to the fruit store so they can see how it turned out.

    Bob

  2. D'oh!

    I forgot to mention that after you pour in the apple juice, you *very
    lightly* sprinkle the jujubes and onions with cinnamon.

    Bob, top-posting moron

    Quoted message said:

    Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at the
    Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for figs.
    The lady working there didn't have any figs, but she assured us that
    they'd be getting them that very night. While we were there, she asked us
    whether we'd ever heard of jujubes [2]. I was familiar with them from a
    Korean chicken dish, and told her so. Hearing that, she gave me a bag with
    about a pound of plum-sized jujubes and told me to have fun with them.

    The Korean dish I'd had consists of a chicken stuffed with jujubes and
    ginseng, then steamed. I wanted something in a slightly different
    direction; my idea was to cut up the jujubes, remove the pits, and use
    them as a bed on which to cook a cut-up chicken. I described it to Lin,
    and here's what she did:

    1 pound jujubes
    1 large onion
    1 whole chicken
    cinnamon
    olive oil
    apple juice
    salt and black pepper to taste
    hot paprika

    Preheat oven to 350F.

    Cut jujubes in half longitudinally and remove the pits. Put the jujubes
    into a thirteen-by-nine-inch pan. (Lin used a Pyrex pan.) Roughly chop
    onion and scatter over jujubes. Pour apple juice into the pan to about
    three-eighths of an inch up the side of the pan.

    Cut chicken into quarters. Drizzle lightly with olive oil and season
    generously with salt, black pepper, and hot paprika. (Coarse salt and
    freshly-ground black pepper are preferred here.)

    Put pan into the oven and bake for about an hour and fifteen minutes.
    Remove pan from oven, tent with foil, and allow to rest for ten minutes.

    Serves 4

    [1] http://bleulune.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/saturday_was_gl.html
    [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujube

    We had this with jasmine rice and corn. I'm not sure whether we have any
    leftover jujubes; I'm thinking of making a pork roulade with them if we
    do. The jujubes came out very much like leathery-skinned apples, with a
    delicate fragrance of their own. I plan to bring some of the chicken and
    jujubes back to the fruit store so they can see how it turned out.

  3. Bob Terwilliger said:

    Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at
    the Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for
    figs. The

    I had a fig tree once. What a *mess*. Ugh! 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    lady working there didn't have any figs, but she assured us that
    they'd be getting them that very night. While we were there, she asked
    us whether we'd ever heard of jujubes [2]. I was familiar with them
    from a Korean chicken dish, and told her so. Hearing that, she gave me
    a bag with about a pound of plum-sized jujubes and told me to have fun
    with them.

    I learned something today. These are the jujubes I know. 🙂

    http://www.oldtimecandy.com/jujubes.htm

    "Jujubes were first produced some time before 1920. The jujube is an
    edible berry that grows in the tropics. But the name of the berry has
    nothing to do with the make-up of the candy, which is more likely
    related to one of the basic ingredients of both Jujubes and Jujyfruits,
    ju-ju gum."

    --
    Blinky RLU 297263
    Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28

  4. Bob Terwilliger said:

    D'oh!

    I forgot to mention that after you pour in the apple juice, you *very
    lightly* sprinkle the jujubes and onions with cinnamon.

    You also forgot the light dusting of garlic powder on the chicken
    only. I did use fresh grown pepper, too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at the
    Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for figs.

    The figs were for the most awesome Liver & Onions I have EVER had. Bob
    truly outdid himself on this and I hope he posts about it sometime.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Preheat oven to 350F.

    Because the chicken was quartered, it only took 1 hr. 15 min. to cook.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Put pan into the oven and bake for about an hour and fifteen minutes.
    Remove pan from oven, tent with foil, and allow to rest for ten minutes.

    Quoted message said:

    Serves 4

    Yeah. What he said! ;-)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We had this with jasmine rice and corn. I'm not sure whether we have any
    leftover jujubes; I'm thinking of making a pork roulade with them if we
    do. The jujubes came out very much like leathery-skinned apples, with a
    delicate fragrance of their own.

    There are a few cooked, and a few more still fresh. I would have
    preferred a thinner skin, but still quite tasty all the same.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I plan to bring some of the chicken and
    jujubes back to the fruit store so they can see how it turned out.

    Hope there is some left before you head to Loomis! ;-)

    As Blinky mentions below, the only JuJuBees I was familiar with were
    previously were the candies. They are one of my mom's favorites. A
    little hard to come by these days unless you are in an old movie
    theater. Not kind to the fillings in one's teeth either.

    --Lin

  5. On Sep 21, 7:50 pm, "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz>

    Quoted message said:

    Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at the
    Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for figs. The
    lady working there didn't have any figs, but she assured us that they'd be
    getting them that very night. While we were there, she asked us whether we'd
    ever heard of jujubes [2]. I was familiar with them from a Korean chicken
    dish, and told her so. Hearing that, she gave me a bag with about a pound of
    plum-sized jujubes and told me to have fun with them.

    The Korean dish I'd had consists of a chicken stuffed with jujubes and
    ginseng, then steamed. I wanted something in a slightly different direction;
    my idea was to cut up the jujubes, remove the pits, and use them as a bed on
    which to cook a cut-up chicken. I described it to Lin, and here's what she
    did:

    1 pound jujubes
    1 large onion
    1 whole chicken
    cinnamon
    olive oil
    apple juice
    salt and black pepper to taste
    hot paprika

    Preheat oven to 350F.

    Cut jujubes in half longitudinally and remove the pits. Put the jujubes into
    a thirteen-by-nine-inch pan. (Lin used a Pyrex pan.) Roughly chop onion and
    scatter over jujubes. Pour apple juice into the pan to about three-eighths
    of an inch up the side of the pan.

    Cut chicken into quarters. Drizzle lightly with olive oil and season
    generously with salt, black pepper, and hot paprika. (Coarse salt and
    freshly-ground black pepper are preferred here.)

    Put pan into the oven and bake for about an hour and fifteen minutes. Remove
    pan from oven, tent with foil, and allow to rest for ten minutes.

    Serves 4

    [1]http://bleulune.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/saturday_was_gl.html
    [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujube

    We had this with jasmine rice and corn. I'm not sure whether we have any
    leftover jujubes; I'm thinking of making a pork roulade with them if we do.
    The jujubes came out very much like leathery-skinned apples, with a delicate
    fragrance of their own. I plan to bring some of the chicken and jujubes back
    to the fruit store so they can see how it turned out.

    Bob

    So that's what you can do with jujubes. They have had them available
    for a couple of Saturdays, here at the Farmer's Market in Sunrise Mall
    in Citrus Heights! They're running about $3.00 a pound, and are
    really good.

    I continue to be amazed at how many on this newsgroup, all live in the
    same Greater Sacramento area. I have a friend in Loomis.

    Myrl Jeffcoat

  6. Lin said:

    The figs were for the most awesome Liver & Onions I have EVER had. Bob
    truly outdid himself on this and I hope he posts about it sometime.

    First, you make a stock:

    a bunch of veal bones (I used beef bones instead)
    Cover the bones with plenty of water and simmer briefly without stirring,
    skimming off foam as it appears on top. Pour off the water and immediately
    rinse off the bones. This step is allegedly to remove any coagulated blood
    or other impurities in the bones.

    Although the recipe doesn't call for it, I roasted the bones at this point.

    Cover the bones with plenty of water again and add the following:

    carrots, peeled and cut into medium-sized dice
    leeks, white and light-green part only, cleaned well and sliced 1/4-inch
    thick
    Spanish onions, peeled and cut into medium-sized dice
    half a head of garlic, cut along its equator, roots removed
    a tablespoon or two of tomato paste (I used 1/4 cup of tomato juice instead)

    Bring to a simmer and allow to cook for five hours. Strain well. If you're
    not going to be using it immediately, put it into an ice-water bath until
    very cold, and then refrigerate.

    Next, you make a red-wine jus:

    1 bottle of red wine (the recipe calls for Cabernet Sauvignon, I used Syrah)
    1 cup peeled and chopped carrots
    1 cup cleaned and chopped leeks
    1 cup peeled and chopped Spanish onion
    1 cup chopped mushrooms
    3 sprigs Italian parsley
    2 sprigs thyme

    Bring all that to a simmer and cook it for 45 minutes. Add 5 cups of the
    stock you made earlier. (I had about a quart of leftover stock.) Simmer for
    another 45 minutes. Strain well.

    Next, you poach the figs:

    The recipe calls for 20 Mission figs. The figs I got were a local unnamed
    variety, and much larger than Mission figs. I poached 14 of them, but only
    used 8 for dinner. (The remaining ones would be VERY nice with a bit of
    cheese for breakfast or a snack.)

    In a cheesecloth, combine a tablespoon of peppercorns, 3 whole cloves, a
    sprig of thyme, and a star anise. Put the figs into a small saucepan with
    the stems pointing up. Add wine to the saucepan so that it comes about a
    third of the way up the figs. Add the sachet and a cinnamon stick. Bring to
    a simmer over medium heat and poach until the figs are soft, about 20
    minutes. Cool.

    Next, you prepare the lardons:

    Preheat oven to 375°F. Cut batons of slab bacon into pieces 3/8 inch by 3/8
    inch by 1 inch, using about 3/4 pound in all. Cook lardons on a rack until
    crisp. (I just put them into a cast-iron pan in the oven for about 30
    minutes, turning them once.)

    Next, you start the potatoes:

    This isn't actually part of the recipe, but I thought mashed potatoes would
    accompany well. So at this point I scrubbed and began boiling 5 Yukon Gold
    potatoes.

    Next, you prepare the onions:

    Peel 20 cipollini and cut an "X" in the root end. Heat vegetable oil (I used
    grapeseed oil) and butter in an ovenproof pan over medium-high heat until
    the butter is melted. Add the onions and cook, stirring, until the onions
    are nicely browned. Add some chicken stock (I used about a quarter-cup) and
    put the pan into the oven for 15 minutes. After 15 minutes, turn the onions,
    add more stock if necessary, and cook another 15 minutes.

    Next, you cook the bacon:

    Put 4 slices of bacon on a rack in a small pan into the oven. Cook until
    crisp.

    Next, you FINALLY start working with the livers:

    I used two calves' livers; the recipe calls for slices of beef liver 1/2 to
    3/4 inch thick. I like my version better, I think.

    Dry the livers well with paper towels. Season with salt and pepper, then
    coat with flour. The livers seemed quite fragile to me, so rather than
    dredging them in flour, I used a sifter to coat them. Gently brush off any
    excess flour.

    Finish the mashed potatoes:

    I left the skins on the potatoes since I like the "chew" of them. I just put
    them in the mixer with some butter, milk, salt, and pepper and mixed them
    until they were "right".

    Cook the livers:

    Heat a large nonstick skillet with vegetable oil (again, I used grapeseed
    oil) and butter over medium-high. When the butter starts to brown, add the
    prepared livers. It's important to use a large enough skillet so that the
    livers aren't crowded, otherwise they'll steam instead of searing. Cook
    until richly browned on both sides.

    Assemble the plates:

    Put a mound of mashed potatoes on each plate. Put the figs and onions around
    the potatoes. Scatter the lardons all around. Put the liver on top of the
    potatoes, and place the bacon strips in an "X" on top of the livers. Spoon
    or pour the red-wine jus all around the periphery.

    Bob

  7. Blinky the Shark said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:

    Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at
    the Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for
    figs. The

    I had a fig tree once. What a *mess*. Ugh! 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    lady working there didn't have any figs, but she assured us that
    they'd be getting them that very night. While we were there, she asked
    us whether we'd ever heard of jujubes [2]. I was familiar with them
    from a Korean chicken dish, and told her so. Hearing that, she gave me
    a bag with about a pound of plum-sized jujubes and told me to have fun
    with them.

    I learned something today. These are the jujubes I know. 🙂

    http://www.oldtimecandy.com/jujubes.htm

    "Jujubes were first produced some time before 1920. The jujube is an
    edible berry that grows in the tropics. But the name of the berry has
    nothing to do with the make-up of the candy, which is more likely
    related to one of the basic ingredients of both Jujubes and Jujyfruits,
    ju-ju gum."

    I've lost two silver amalgam fillings to Jujubes. I love the flavor and
    texture but I also realize that I obviously can't be trusted to let them
    melt in mouth rather than chewing them. So, no more Jujubes for me,
    with my mouth, full of hardware.

  8. Blinky the Shark said:

    I learned something today. These are the jujubes I know. 🙂

    http://www.oldtimecandy.com/jujubes.htm

    "Jujubes were first produced some time before 1920. The jujube is an
    edible berry that grows in the tropics. But the name of the berry has
    nothing to do with the make-up of the candy, which is more likely
    related to one of the basic ingredients of both Jujubes and Jujyfruits,
    ju-ju gum."

    The jujube he is talking about, is similar to a date, although I am most
    familiar with the jujubes you are talking about. I am trying to diet, so
    I did not click on your link. <g>

    Becca

  9. Kathleen said:
    Blinky the Shark said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:

    Tonight's dinner was something of an experiment. Lin and I stopped at
    the Blue Goose Fruit Shed [1] in Loomis a couple days ago looking for
    figs. The

    I had a fig tree once. What a *mess*. Ugh! 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    lady working there didn't have any figs, but she assured us that
    they'd be getting them that very night. While we were there, she asked
    us whether we'd ever heard of jujubes [2]. I was familiar with them
    from a Korean chicken dish, and told her so. Hearing that, she gave me
    a bag with about a pound of plum-sized jujubes and told me to have fun
    with them.

    I learned something today. These are the jujubes I know. 🙂

    http://www.oldtimecandy.com/jujubes.htm

    "Jujubes were first produced some time before 1920. The jujube is an
    edible berry that grows in the tropics. But the name of the berry has
    nothing to do with the make-up of the candy, which is more likely
    related to one of the basic ingredients of both Jujubes and Jujyfruits,
    ju-ju gum."

    I've lost two silver amalgam fillings to Jujubes. I love the flavor and
    texture but I also realize that I obviously can't be trusted to let them
    melt in mouth rather than chewing them. So, no more Jujubes for me,
    with my mouth, full of hardware.

    I was eating some candy last night that was essentially jujubes by
    another name. In fact, this discussion is what reminded me that I had
    some. While I was eating them, I was careful not to chomp down to hard
    on them for that very reason. Especially since this summer at the
    dentist's office they couldn't get a temporary crown off and one thing
    they tried was, "here...bite down hard on this jujube", producing a lump
    of some kind of wax or something that looked like three or four of them
    kneaded together and had a very similar mouth feel. 🙂

    --
    Blinky RLU 297263
    Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28

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