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  1. Dan Abel <[email hidden]> looking for trouble wrote in news:dabel-
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    tsr3 said:

    Ranger--your story illustrates that just because a person is capable of
    reproducing doesn't mean they should. In my opionion, only a minority
    of people should even consider having children--most folks I see just
    don't make very effective parents.

    My opinion is that most parents are effective and do a good job. The
    minority of bad ones make the rest look bad.

    I have to agree with this. Unfortunately the minority is what dictates
    where I eat on many occasions.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My big beef is staying at a hotel that has a pool, and not being able
    to take advantage of it, because of all the kids hellraising (and
    parents doing the "Vallium Shuffle"--letting their kids misbehave).

    It just takes one family with 3 kids to completely take over a swimming
    pool.

    My daughter and I traveled many years back. It was a great trip. We
    stayed at an inexpensive motel on the way up. There was an indoor pool
    and hot tub. We headed for the hot tub. My daughter was about six.
    There was one other guy in there. My daughter had been cooped up for
    hours, and was pretty squirmy. I didn't think she was obnoxious, but
    she was moving around and making small waves. The guy claimed that he
    was a firefighter, and the temperature of the tub was dangerous for kids
    that age. I figured that he just wanted her out of there. I ignored
    him, but made sure she kept part of her body out of the water. I don't
    think that helped the wave situation. We didn't stay in long, as we
    were hungry and wanted dinner.

    Anybody know the facts here?

    That is a bizarre one. If he was indeed a firefighter and detected an
    unsafe condition, why didn't he report it immediately? I think you were had
    Dan.

    Quoted message said:


    I think that there is a big difference between behavior in a nice
    restaurant and behavior in a pool.

    I avoid the hotel pools anyway. I prefer the steam and sauna. I mean
    seriously, pools and kids just seem to go together (as long as the child
    isn't left alone). LOL... This reminds me of one of the numerous times
    I've spent at the Ritz Carlton in D.C. on Dupont. Geesh... 2 decades ago
    or so they had an indoor pool (I don't know if they still have it or not).
    It was not a big pool, you know, like a pool for doing laps and stuff. 2
    really rowdy children were playing in the pool. I had gone down for a swim
    and was taken aback by the kids, but what the hell. Anyway, one stodgy guy
    complained to the attendant about the splashing and noise. Never will I
    forget the attendant's response "Sir, you are imposing upon the children.
    You are the guest in the swimming hole". It cracked me up.

    Michael <- Went to Nathan's for shots of good scotch afterwards

    --
    Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

  2. "Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My daughter and I traveled many years back. It was a great trip. We
    stayed at an inexpensive motel on the way up. There was an indoor pool
    and hot tub. We headed for the hot tub. My daughter was about six.
    There was one other guy in there. My daughter had been cooped up for
    hours, and was pretty squirmy. I didn't think she was obnoxious, but
    she was moving around and making small waves. The guy claimed that he
    was a firefighter, and the temperature of the tub was dangerous for kids
    that age. I figured that he just wanted her out of there. I ignored
    him, but made sure she kept part of her body out of the water. I don't
    think that helped the wave situation. We didn't stay in long, as we
    were hungry and wanted dinner.

    Anybody know the facts here?

    Well, I don't know about the heat, but I have read that young children
    can't sit still for a very long time because acid builds up in their joints.
    They move to relieve the discomfort. I did a quick search and saw a
    lot of references to ADHD, I didn't see anything to back up what I
    read A REALLY long time ago. (laugh)

    nancy

  3. Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:


    Quoted message said:

    My daughter and I traveled many years back. It was a great trip. We
    stayed at an inexpensive motel on the way up. There was an indoor pool
    and hot tub. We headed for the hot tub. My daughter was about six.
    There was one other guy in there. My daughter had been cooped up for
    hours, and was pretty squirmy. I didn't think she was obnoxious, but
    she was moving around and making small waves. The guy claimed that he
    was a firefighter, and the temperature of the tub was dangerous for kids
    that age. I figured that he just wanted her out of there. I ignored
    him, but made sure she kept part of her body out of the water. I don't
    think that helped the wave situation. We didn't stay in long, as we
    were hungry and wanted dinner.

    Anybody know the facts here?

    That is a bizarre one. If he was indeed a firefighter and detected an
    unsafe condition, why didn't he report it immediately? I think you were had
    Dan.

    A lot of places with hot tubs have signs banning people under 18 because of
    safety concerns. The YMCA is one of them. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety
    Commission recommends that children and pregnant women not use them. One reason
    is the heat and anther is the increased risk of drowning because they hair gets
    stuck in the drain.

    Quoted message said:

    I avoid the hotel pools anyway. I prefer the steam and sauna. I mean
    seriously, pools and kids just seem to go together (as long as the child
    isn't left alone). LOL... This reminds me of one of the numerous times
    I've spent at the Ritz Carlton in D.C. on Dupont. Geesh... 2 decades ago
    or so they had an indoor pool (I don't know if they still have it or not).
    It was not a big pool, you know, like a pool for doing laps and stuff. 2
    really rowdy children were playing in the pool. I had gone down for a swim
    and was taken aback by the kids, but what the hell. Anyway, one stodgy guy
    complained to the attendant about the splashing and noise. Never will I
    forget the attendant's response "Sir, you are imposing upon the children.
    You are the guest in the swimming hole". It cracked me up.

    Public pools are a PITA at the best of times. I swim 1km per day at the local
    Y. I do not go when there are kids around. The old farts are bad enough.
    They divide the pool into three sections, fast, medium and slow. Nobody wants
    to swim in the slow lane. They think they are fast, and even the fact that
    people in slower lanes are swimming faster than them is not enough to keep them
    out of the fast lane. I consider myself to be medium speed. I can swim fast if
    I am doing a length or two, but if I am doing 40 laps I have to pace myself.
    Even in the fast lane I end up catching up to people who have no business being
    there.

    Because of heath and safety concerns, the local Y does not have a hot tub.
    Instead, they have a "swirl pool" with 92F water. I wont go in in because there
    are always kids in it, and I know what they do in warm water.
    ..

  4. Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:


    Quoted message said:

    My daughter and I traveled many years back. It was a great trip. We
    stayed at an inexpensive motel on the way up. There was an indoor pool
    and hot tub. We headed for the hot tub. My daughter was about six.
    There was one other guy in there. My daughter had been cooped up for
    hours, and was pretty squirmy. I didn't think she was obnoxious, but
    she was moving around and making small waves. The guy claimed that he
    was a firefighter, and the temperature of the tub was dangerous for kids
    that age. I figured that he just wanted her out of there. I ignored
    him, but made sure she kept part of her body out of the water. I don't
    think that helped the wave situation. We didn't stay in long, as we
    were hungry and wanted dinner.

    Anybody know the facts here?

    That is a bizarre one. If he was indeed a firefighter and detected an
    unsafe condition, why didn't he report it immediately? I think you were had
    Dan.

    A lot of places with hot tubs have signs banning people under 18 because of
    safety concerns. The YMCA is one of them. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety
    Commission recommends that children and pregnant women not use them. One reason
    is the heat and anther is the increased risk of drowning because they hair gets
    stuck in the drain.

    Quoted message said:

    I avoid the hotel pools anyway. I prefer the steam and sauna. I mean
    seriously, pools and kids just seem to go together (as long as the child
    isn't left alone). LOL... This reminds me of one of the numerous times
    I've spent at the Ritz Carlton in D.C. on Dupont. Geesh... 2 decades ago
    or so they had an indoor pool (I don't know if they still have it or not).
    It was not a big pool, you know, like a pool for doing laps and stuff. 2
    really rowdy children were playing in the pool. I had gone down for a swim
    and was taken aback by the kids, but what the hell. Anyway, one stodgy guy
    complained to the attendant about the splashing and noise. Never will I
    forget the attendant's response "Sir, you are imposing upon the children.
    You are the guest in the swimming hole". It cracked me up.

    Public pools are a PITA at the best of times. I swim 1km per day at the local
    Y. I do not go when there are kids around. The old farts are bad enough.
    They divide the pool into three sections, fast, medium and slow. Nobody wants
    to swim in the slow lane. They think they are fast, and even the fact that
    people in slower lanes are swimming faster than them is not enough to keep them
    out of the fast lane. I consider myself to be medium speed. I can swim fast if
    I am doing a length or two, but if I am doing 40 laps I have to pace myself.
    Even in the fast lane I end up catching up to people who have no business being
    there.

    Because of heath and safety concerns, the local Y does not have a hot tub.
    Instead, they have a "swirl pool" with 92F water. I wont go in in because there
    are always kids in it, and I know what they do in warm water.
    ..

  5. The Ranger said:

    I decided to visit our favorite Chinese restaurant yesterday, taking all
    three daughter-units with me. We're "regulars," and they recognize me
    through my daughter-units. This "special" treatment/recognition is one
    of the reasons we keep coming back. Yesterday, though, has made me
    rethink this patronage.

    <snipped story>

    Quoted message said:

    As we left, the Matron apologized for our experience and hoped to see us
    again. I didn't commit.

    The Ranger

    I would not have sat through it. I would not have placed an order. I
    would have informed the Matron that I was leaving and let her know she
    just lost a valuable customer.

    The few times my kid acted up in a restaurant, I summoned the wait
    staff for the check, paid and left...even if I left an unfiinished
    meal. Kidlet KNEW by the time we got home that she had committed a
    grievous error in the realm of beahvior. Those incidents were very few
    and far between.

    SD

  6. "SD" wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    I would not have sat through it. I would not have placed an order. I
    would have informed the Matron that I was leaving and let her know she
    just lost a valuable customer.

    Well, I would have informed them why I was leaving but since I liked the
    restaurant I'd try again another day.

    Quoted message said:

    The few times my kid acted up in a restaurant, I summoned the wait
    staff for the check, paid and left...even if I left an unfiinished
    meal. Kidlet KNEW by the time we got home that she had committed a
    grievous error in the realm of beahvior. Those incidents were very few
    and far between.

    SD

    That's the way I raised my kids - if we went out for a treat and they acted
    up, I gathered them up and home we went. That message got through very
    quickly and they were always well behaved in public. Thank G*d.

    I said earlier in this thread that I am a "mean grandmother" because I don't
    dote. I don't like bratty behavior (and especially on the part of my almost
    five-year-old granddaughter. At my house, she gets "the look" and gets
    quiet. When we're all out somewhere, I distract her if she's being a pill,
    but in HER home I keep quiet (and it's a tough job). I have a very
    permissive daughter, which drives me wild when Hope is being bratty.

    Dora

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Ranger said:


    I tend to think very quickly on my feet. Unfortunately, it's not always
    very safe or positive. SWMBO keeps telling me that one of these days,
    it's going to backfire...

    The Ranger

    Kinda like when you hosed the elderly woman availing herself of your
    peaches? When's your court date, BTW. "-)
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 11-9-05 finishing in four
    parts the trip report from our vacation time in San Francisco
    for Nephew Pat's wedding last weekend.

  8. limey said:

    That's the way I raised my kids - if we went out for a treat and they acted
    up, I gathered them up and home we went. That message got through very
    quickly and they were always well behaved in public. Thank G*d.

    I keep hearing people say they do that, but I have never seen it happen. I have
    seen kids behaving ub restaurants. I have seen kids act up and get disciplines.
    I have seen far too many kids acting up while their parents keep making threats
    that, from the number of times the threats are made, obviously are never carried
    out. And I have seen kids running around while their parents seem to be
    completely unaware of their intolerable behaviour. But never have I seen a
    family get up and leave because the kid(s) was(were) misbehaving.

    Quoted message said:
  9. On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:48:29 -0500, biig <[email hidden]> rummaged
    among random neurons and opined:

    Quoted message said:

    LOL...my dh used to say "behave or you can be replaced...your mother
    and I can go into the bedroom and make another one". Before anyone has
    an objection, the "kids" were old enough to take the joke....Sharon

    My mother used to tell us, "If you embarrass me in public, I'll
    embarrass you just a little bit more." And, boy, was she good for it!

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
    AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
    old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
    waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

    -- Duncan Hines

    To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  10. On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:07:31 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]>
    rummaged among random neurons and opined:

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes I think that prospective parents need to take classes, pass a
    test and get a license to have kids. There are so many problems with
    your story that it is pathetic. There are a lot of very simple things
    that you do to avoid this. They didn't have a clue. Obviously you do,
    and that's why your kids behave.

    When my kids were small and I demanded that they behave, use good
    table manners, don't touch <object>, share their toys, etc., etc., my
    MIL used to tell me that I was too hard on the kids and I'd make them
    <eyeball rolling> stutter.

    Many years later my kids are well behaved, have good table manners,
    etc., etc., the MIL said that she wished she could have gotten her two
    daughters to be better disciplinarians of their broods and was so
    happy I had taken her advice. <groan>

    You know how hard it was to keep my mouth shut to that?

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
    AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
    old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
    waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

    -- Duncan Hines

    To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  11. On Sat 12 Nov 2005 07:53:29p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Terry
    Pulliam Burd?

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:48:29 -0500, biig <[email hidden]> rummaged
    among random neurons and opined:

    Quoted message said:

    LOL...my dh used to say "behave or you can be replaced...your mother
    and I can go into the bedroom and make another one". Before anyone has
    an objection, the "kids" were old enough to take the joke....Sharon

    My mother used to tell us, "If you embarrass me in public, I'll
    embarrass you just a little bit more." And, boy, was she good for it!

    My mother told me that I was always well behaved when we were in public. I
    don't know if that was true, or just a preferred memory of hers.

    However, when I was around 3 years old and my parents had company, they
    used a very successful tactic. If I started to become disagreeable and/or
    have a tantrum, my parents would tell me to get out in the middle of the
    livingroom floor and show everybody how I could throw a fit! I think it
    only took 2-3 times for my behavior to drastically improve.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  12. Dave Smith said:
    limey said:

    That's the way I raised my kids - if we went out for a treat and they acted
    up, I gathered them up and home we went. That message got through very
    quickly and they were always well behaved in public. Thank G*d.

    I keep hearing people say they do that, but I have never seen it happen.

    I've seen it happen, and I still find the details of this one incident a
    little disturbing. I was waiting for a table at a busy, informal,
    breakfast and bagel place. The waiting area was stools and counters, a
    little crowded, but not terribly uncomfortable. There were 4 adults and
    4 children in the party I'm talking about. The kids were maybe in the
    10 years old range. The adults had stools. The kids didn't. Or maybe
    there was one extra stool for them as people came and went in the
    waiting area. The adults were talking in normal speaking voices or
    maybe a little louder as the situation made the whole restaurant a
    little noisy.

    The kids were talking at the same volume. The kids' conversation was
    along the lines of laughs and giggles. They were moving around a little
    too. I saw nothing extreme in what they were doing. They weren't
    pinching or punching each other, not breaking into the adult
    conversation, not running around or getting in anyone's way, just
    squirming a little the way anyone would when standing. That's not to
    say they were standing like little soldiers with their hands nearly
    folded in front of them, but they were enjoying each others' company the
    way I'd hope people would.

    Then all of a sudden and out of the blue, the parents started
    complaining about the kids and how they never used to discipline them
    but now they were learning to. One mother told her kid to "stop that,"
    but there was no explanation of what, if anything, the kid was doing
    wrong, none that I could see anyway. Stop shifting his weight from one
    foot to the other? Stop talking to his friends? Stop laughing when
    something struck him as funny? The next thing I knew, one of the adults
    was angrily insisting that the kids get in the car to go home because
    they weren't going to put up with it any longer. The kids left; the
    adult came back, and to this day, I can't see that any of those children
    knew how to change their behavior so they wouldn't get punished the next
    time.

    I believe those parents learned the catch phrase "discipline" and the
    idea of removing the children and interpreted it to mean that now they
    can do whatever they want which means getting rid of the kids whenever
    the random mood strikes. I'm glad they didn't learn that variety of
    "discipline" sooner. They would have been punishing toddlers any time
    they happened to want to ignore them.

    --Lia

  13. Terry Pulliam Burd said:

    When my kids were small and I demanded that they behave, use good
    table manners, don't touch <object>, share their toys, etc., etc., my
    MIL used to tell me that I was too hard on the kids and I'd make them
    <eyeball rolling> stutter.

    Many years later my kids are well behaved, have good table manners,
    etc., etc., the MIL said that she wished she could have gotten her two
    daughters to be better disciplinarians of their broods and was so
    happy I had taken her advice. <groan>

    You know how hard it was to keep my mouth shut to that?

    No way would I have managed to.

    --
    -denny-
    "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

    "It's come as you are, baby."

    -over the hedge

  14. Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "The Ranger"


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I tend to think very quickly on my feet. Unfortunately,
    it's not always very safe or positive. SWMBO keeps
    telling me that one of these days, it's going to backfire...


    Kinda like when you hosed the elderly woman availing
    herself of your peaches? When's your court date, BTW.
    "-)

    They were nectarines!

    The Ranger

  15. Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "The Ranger"


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I tend to think very quickly on my feet. Unfortunately,
    it's not always very safe or positive. SWMBO keeps
    telling me that one of these days, it's going to backfire...


    Kinda like when you hosed the elderly woman availing
    herself of your peaches? When's your court date, BTW.
    "-)

    They were nectarines!

    The Ranger

  16. SD said:

    I would not have sat through it. I would not have placed an order. I
    would have informed the Matron that I was leaving and let her know she
    just lost a valuable customer.

    Oh, come on. You really think it was the restaurant's fault they had
    some customers who were jerks?

    (you must not have many places you'll go)
    --
    -denny-
    "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

    "It's come as you are, baby."

    -over the hedge

  17. Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> wondered in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When's your court date, BTW. "-)

    Hasn't happened yet.

    Here's that tale...

    I planted a nectarine sapling four years ago in my front yard. I did so
    for three reason: space availability, almost 12-hours / day of direct
    sun light, and location (it could double as a neighbor-screen between
    our cars).

    This year, adhering to my regular method of "let it go feral and it'll
    grow" care and maintenance, the thing is producing fruit like a lemon
    tree on speed. It's 1/2" limbs were arched downwards like a
    fully-extended Sidewinder compound bow.

    To say that I was preening like a new father holding up a record trout
    is falling short of that description. I used every conversational
    opportunity to point out the obvious: I was going to have too many
    nectarines for Clan Ranger's consumption so a few Good Neighbors (the
    type that don't harangue or offer unsolicited advice, and enjoy fishing)
    were going to receive their fair share.

    Into every moment of happiness some Prize Jackass has to bray his way,
    though. Enter Walker #1.

    Walker #1 is a passing acquaintance. I see him every morning trudging
    past my castle and we nod hello. Nowhere in there do I care to know his
    name, nor does he give a flying flutter about me. It's the best of all
    possible situations. Somewhere, sometime, my nod hello was interpreted
    as "You may help yourself to my nectarines."

    Recently, as I walked out through my garage to the strip where I'd
    planted this Golden Goose tree, I was witness to Walker #1 helping
    himself. While I wasn't even slightly upset about that -- as I said,
    it's producing nectarines like so many lemon trees -- what caught me off
    balance was his wanton destruction of its light limbs and branch tips.
    If a piece of fruit resisted, he'd simply snap the branch.

    I walked up to him, bristling, "See these tips," I asked, reaching down
    and picking up the six closest to me, "and that whole branch section?
    They _were_ part of that tree! Payment is the nectarines you're packin'.
    Now..."

    I often joke that I have Death riding my right shoulder because of the
    way people react when I'm mildly annoyed. His quick handing over of all
    eight nectarines certainly helped support that claim. To make sure
    there was not going to be any further misunderstandings, I added for
    clarification, "Oh. And I don't expect to have this conversation with
    you again." He solicitously quickstepped his way out of my sight.

    I looked at the fruit in my arms. Every one was hard as cement! There
    wasn't a ripe one in the lot! Coupled with the branches littering my
    driveway, I decided a little more proactive harvesting was necessary.
    When I returned with my shears and harvest bucket in hands, I was rather
    surprised to find a whole side of the tree devoid of fruit. A closer
    inspection revealed multiple branches hanging at unnatural 130° angles,
    proving that several two-legged animals had been helping themselves all
    along.

    My ebbing generosity was quickly replaced by a need to exact some form
    of revenge. I didn't have to wait more than three days, of which a
    significant amount of extra interest had accrued.

    A few days later, in the early morning while on my way out to take all
    three daughter-units to summer school, an older lady was quietly
    divesting my tree of most of its remaining fruit. Daughter-unit Alpha
    thought it weird that we had our own personal picker, especially since I
    hadn't mentioned it in staff, so she asked this lady who she was. The
    woman ignored her and kept picking fruit. Daughter-unit Beta then took
    her turn and walked up to her, asked her again who she was; and she was
    ignored. Spawn, knowing she would receive similar treatment, didn't
    bother but bolted inside to get me.

    "Someone's at the tree again," Spawn announced at sound levels usually
    only found during world cup matches.

    "Dammit!" I exploded.

    "She's still there," she added and turned to run back out the garage.

    We both stopped as I exited the garage. "Are you going to leave any of
    the greener fruit to ripen?"

    The chutzpah some people use as a shield when they think they are going
    to get items for free is something I have never understood. Sour Puss
    turned and looked me square in the eyes, sneered a tsk in my direction,
    and then turned back around to finish the u-pick process at Ranger's
    Public Farms.

    "Since you're too stupid to understand that I'm asking you to leave," I
    said nonchalantly, "I'll explain it in a simpler way." I took one large
    step to my right where I coil my garden hose and gave the spicket a full
    turn. 60psi shot through the green rubber tubing and roared out the
    sprayer nozzle twelve feet. All three daughter-units vaulted away like
    nimble little gazelle.

    Sour Puss got it full in the back and head.

    The Safeway bag, laden with her ill-gotten loot, dropped and scattered
    over twenty fruit hither-and-yon. Sour Puss, head ducked between her
    shoulders, ran back to the sidewalk, ten feet away, thinking I'd stop
    spraying her once she reached the safety of that particular patch of
    cement.

    I didn't.

    I kept spraying her the remaining 55' to the end of my property line.
    She was one wet feline by the time I'd finished making my point. All
    three daughter-units quickly filed into the car firing off
    statement-questions as I pulled away.

    As we drove past Sour Puss, she attempted a Withering Glare. I stopped
    and rolled down my window. "Don't ever come onto my property again. I
    won't be nearly as kind next time."

    Unknown to me, Jeff (a neighbor down the street) had witnessed the
    entire incident -- it'll probably be featured on some live-cam video
    program soon. He also has a fruit tree (a Meyer Lemon) out front. When I
    returned from drop-off, he ambled his 300 lb bulk over as I was picking
    up all the fruit in the bag. "Mornin', [Range]. Had a good laugh at,"
    and he pointed down to the loot. "I've always wanted to do that too!" He
    continued to laugh. "I got to thinking, though," he said
    sympathetically. "I use something that I think you'll appreciate." He
    offered me a cellophane wrapped package."

    "What is it?"

    "Tree netting. It's like a hair net for trees. Originally," he said, "it
    was to prevent those damned jays from stealing my tree's fruit but it's
    reaped an unexpected bonus. Those GDFs leave my tree alone as well
    since, it seems, none of them carry a knife or shears."

    "Cool. Thank you very much. How much?"

    "Free. It was worth it just watching her get soaked when you didn't stop
    at the sidewalk."

    The Ranger

  18. Terry Pulliam Burd <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [The MIL]

    Quoted message said:

    You know how hard it was to keep my mouth shut to that?

    Yes! Yes! Yes!

    The Ranger

  19. Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [Dave's observations of others' children and threat evaluation]

    This from the man with the Gobbler for a niece? Do tell!

    The Ranger

  20. "The Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "Free. It was worth it just watching her get soaked when you didn't stop
    at the sidewalk."

    Now, that was a funny story. Some people, unbelievable.

    nancy

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