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  1. "Rob Devereux" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I have a Minolta Dinax Z1. It isnt that small but it does fit in the palm
    very nicely and is fantastic in every other respect you mention. It uses
    four AA batteries so I always take a load with me(and they are reasonably
    easy to get hold of in most places unless you are in true wilderness for
    long periods). No lag on picture and feels and acts like an SLR(with
    adjustable focus, exposure and shutter). Will do short video and sound


    but

    Quoted message said:

    this is normally card-dependent.

    Sadly only 38mm at its widest and 3Mp.

  2. Mine's a Canon Ixus 55 (5 megapixels). I bought it about a year ago and
    recommended it to a similarly outdoors-y friend who bought it and loves it
    too. It meets most of your criteria, although I can't say I'd want to test
    the robustness one. What makes it great for me is:

    - It's very small and fits on my belt fine (or in my pocket if I'm togged
    up).
    - Not sure about using in gloves (I can't do ANYTHING wearing gloves!), but
    the buttons are a reasonable size for me.
    - Battery life is good, but replacements are cheap so the best thing to do
    is buy a spare battery as a backup.
    - Likewise the memory cards. I haven't nearly filed a 512MB SD card yet, but
    on long trips I just carry a spare.
    - The 'stitch-assist' feature is great for taking panoramic views.
    - It has a viewfinder (though I've noticed some of the more recent Ixus's
    (Ixuses? Ixi?) have ditched the viewfinder in favour of a larger screen. I'd
    certainly recommend a viewfinder for taking photos in bright sunlight or
    snow - it was vital on a recent trip to the Dolomites.

    Doug

    "Michael Elcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Can anyone recommend a good digital camera suitable for walking & trekking
    (including 4 weeks away from power)?
    My Fuji 4800Zoom has been excellent but it is a bit past it now.

    Here are my requirements; I haven't found anything that meets all of them
    yet:

    Must have:
    Reasonably compact (fits on a waste band) but can be used easily and
    quickly with large fingers/gloves
    At least 4 megapixels
    At least 3x optical zoom
    Negligible lag
    Videoclips (I believe Fuji are the best here as they are 640x480)
    Card - any, but the higher the capacity the better
    Long battery life & rechargeable
    Wide angle (My Fuji was rather narrow)
    Good pictures in bad weather (high ISO?)
    Viewfinder or good LCD in sunlight
    Robust if wet or dropped

    Nice to have:
    Panoramic pictures or widescreen
    Image stabiliser
    Face detection
    Cradle

    Many thanks for any help,
    Michael Elcock
    www.whitecottage.org

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    Can anyone recommend a good digital camera suitable for walking & trekking
    (including 4 weeks away from power)?
    My Fuji 4800Zoom has been excellent but it is a bit past it now.

    The Nikon P5000 has just been released. It has a lot of the features
    you're after, and can accept wide and tele add-on lenses too (although I
    don't know what sort of quality they give).

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022006_nikonp5000.asp

  4. Bob Mannix said:

    "Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Bob Mannix said:

    It's only advertised as "waterproof equivalent to IEC 529 IPX8" (to 5m) -
    I guess while underwater you start to ponder the word "equivalent" :o)


    Not until I get to 5m, and I can't see my ears being too interested in
    that in the normal course of events...

    Quoted message said:

    Hopefully not like watches: 25m=splashproof, 50m=swimming,
    100m=snorkelling


    I don't think that's entirely fair, it's "water resistant" you need to
    look out for (like "showerproof" jackets).

    Au contraire, the table I gave was actually printed (roughly as shown) in a
    watch instruction booklet (Casio) I got! I actually prefer to buy 200m
    watches ("diving"😉 as I reckon they'll survive snorkelling the longest! In
    any case it's obviously fair, I mean come on - 100m?? Annoyingly the IEC
    standard for your camera can only be purchased, it may very well be a "good"
    equivalent. Looks a nice camera BTW.

    I agree with Peter, I think Bob you're being overly cynical. I have the
    Olympus SW725 which I bought last year for an "adventure" holiday to
    Borneo. It survived the rain, heat, humidity and dirt without problems.
    It also survived being dropped in a river (where it stayed for 10
    minutes until I managed to find it), and being dropped on the floor (so
    it is shockproof). I didn't use it for snorkelling as I didn't want the
    hassle of cleaning it afterwards (the manual says you need to swill it
    around in a bucket of clean water to make sure salt crystals don't form
    under the lens cover and scratch the lens).

    It's not perfect (you can read my review on Amazon, though I bought it
    from Play.com), but when you need toughness more than absolute image
    quality or creative control, it's the best available at the moment, I
    think (or rather it's successor, the 770SW is).

    -Antony.

  5. Peter Clinch said:
    Michael Elcock said:

    Here are my requirements; I haven't found anything that meets all of
    them yet:

    Must have:
    Reasonably compact (fits on a waste band) but can be used easily and
    quickly with large fingers/gloves
    At least 4 megapixels
    At least 3x optical zoom
    Negligible lag
    Videoclips (I believe Fuji are the best here as they are 640x480)
    Card - any, but the higher the capacity the better
    Long battery life & rechargeable
    Wide angle (My Fuji was rather narrow)
    Good pictures in bad weather (high ISO?)
    Viewfinder or good LCD in sunlight
    Robust if wet or dropped

    The "robust if wet or dropped" was what really sold me on the Olympus Mu
    725 SW, though I wanted formally water*proof* for sea kayaking wet
    exits. Olympus claim shock-proof too... I have taken underwater video
    with it so I know it's waterproof, but haven't felt inclined to test the
    shock-proofing! It's 7 MPix and has a 3x optical zoom.
    Where it falls down for your list is long battery life, /but/ it's easy
    enough to carry spares, they are rechargeable and don't take up much
    space. Mine has a 1 Gb card in it which is good for 500 odd high
    resolution images, or a lot more at lower res. As with the batteries,
    carrying spares shouldn't be hard.
    One reason battery life isn't great is there's no viewfinder. I've yet
    to be defeated by sun, but there are times when a viewfinder would be
    nice. OTOH, if it had a viewfinder too it would be bigger, clumsier and
    heavier, so you have to decide on your priorities.

    It's very compact, I seem to be managing to get things out of it and I'm
    no photographer, and the extra bomb-proofing is a Big Win for me. You
    will be able to get cameras that, given suitable knowledge and patience,
    will take better pictures. But if they'll be smiling after you drop
    them in a puddle, or they get rained on for 8 hours solid, would be
    another matter.

    Maybe worth a look, anyway...

    Pete.

    I'll add another vote for the Olympus 725SW. I bought it for a trip to
    Borneo last year. You can see my review on Amazon (I bought it from
    Play.com). It's not perfect, in particular the lack of optical image
    stabilization is puzzling given the intended use. At wide angles there's
    some colour fringing. The screen is very difficult to see in bright
    light (you end up guessing, and then check the result after). That said,
    it was great not having to worry about it getting damaged by anything I
    was doing, and the pictures are really rather good. Take a look at
    http://picasaweb.google.com/Antony.J.Jones/Borneo2006

    The video quality isn't that great as the frame rate is limited to
    15fps. Not an issue for me, but might be for the OP.

    Make sure you get the version that includes the neoprene pouch (some
    packs don't). But also get a long neck strap (so you don't drop it in a
    river like me).

    The battery life was good (about 200 shots between full recharges). I
    didn't take a spare, but unbranded compatible batteries are pretty
    cheap. If you really were going to be away from power for a long time,
    you'd be better off with a camera that takes AA batteries (like a Canon
    A series) so you can take a large pack of Duracells with you.

    Unlike Peter, I only got about 330 photos on a 1Gb xD card (I always use
    SHQ mode). Fuji and Olympus branded cards are dirt cheap now, so take
    more than you think you need. This is my first digital, and I found I
    was taking many more photos.

    Note that the 725SW has now been superseded by the 770SW, which is water
    proof to 10m (!) and works at -10C. You can also get a hard plastic case
    for these cameras that's good for scuba diving to 40m.

    When I used film, I'd carry 1 or 2 SLR bodies, a set of lenses and a
    compact. At some point I'll probably get a DSLR or SLR-like camera to
    get more creative control, a wider zoom range, a bigger sensor (for less
    noise) and image stabilization. I'll still carry the 725SW everywhere
    and it'll probably get much more use as it's just so convenient.

    -Antony

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