Dietary fat in prehistoric times ?

Once upon a time, our fellow Chopper rambled on about "Dietary fat in prehistoric times ?." Our
champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

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amount of dietary fat that man evolved with?

You should also study the amount of disease ridden game that man evolved with.

Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

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Hi, What is known about the amount of dietary fat that man evolved with? I've heard that in the US
the average person's diet has much more fat than is healthy and I wonder what's known about how
much fat was in the diet as humans evolved.

Thanks

Well, just few shorts thoughts:

1) Prehistoric man was not healthy. Once humans left their natural habitat in the warm climate
regions their life and health becomes miserable; they suffer from cold, thirst, minerals and
vitamin deficiency and died very young

2) In Europe there were few thousands people. Many of them consumed honey and hazels and few other
foods. Berries and cold climate fruits were abundant and they also consumed few cold climate
Graminaceae as well as Paleolithic Aboriginal Australians

3) Selvatic meat that they used to eat was very very low in fat compared to nowadays animals
from farms

4) They also consumed many tender leaves that are rich in linoleic and alpha-linolenic acids

5) Many researchers showed how the autolisis from going even one month without foods permitted
huamans to survive in an unnatural habitat for them So, prehistoric man fasted and rested a lot

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Hi, What is known about the amount of dietary fat that man evolved with? I've heard that in the US
the average person's diet has much more fat than is healthy and I wonder what's known about how
much fat was in the diet as humans evolved.

Paleontologists talk about piles of bones cracked for their marrow by prehumans. Sometimes even the
bones of other prehumans. There are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. There are fats that are
unhealthy in someone who setting around watching the [censored]-tube which would be perfectly fine in some
person chasing reindeer all day.

Just random comments.

William

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1) Prehistoric man was not healthy. Once humans left their natural habitat in the warm climate
regions their life and health becomes miserable; they suffer from cold, thirst, minerals and
vitamin deficiency and died very young

G'day G'day Nicholas,

Europe wasn't always cold. It has been warm enough to have malaria.

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2) In Europe there were few thousands people. Many of them consumed honey and hazels and few other
foods. Berries and cold climate fruits were abundant and they also consumed few cold climate
Graminaceae as well as Paleolithic Aboriginal Australians

Tough on the Aborigines to walk all that way and get eaten. <grin>

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3) Selvatic meat that they used to eat was very very low in fat compared to nowadays animals
from farms

To a large extent that is true. Fat was at a premium. In New Zealand the Maori went further South to
islands to collect immature seabirds known now as mutton birds. They relished them for the fishy
flavoured fat. Apparently they could be stored in split kelp.

Seals were another rich fat source.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading."

homepages.paradise.net.nzquentinOpen ↗

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Hi, What is known about the amount of dietary fat that man evolved with? I've heard that in the
US the average person's diet has much more fat

than

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is healthy and I wonder what's known about how much fat was in the diet

as

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humans evolved.

Paleontologists talk about piles of bones cracked for their marrow by prehumans. Sometimes even
the bones of other prehumans. There are healthy fats and unhealthy fats.

Yes, but we should remember that the more of a healthy thing is not always better Vitamin A is
essential, too much is letal The same for zinc Too much essential fatty acids is (more than 6% of
the total calories) dangerous as they cause pretty serious cellular damage Other fats are not
essential, and (textbooks, medical literature and also a lot of old message here in
sci.med.nutrition) agree that as long as fat intake is 6% gall bladder function and fat soluble
vitamins absoption are not compromised If 6%, if chosen wisely, is also enough to get all the
essential fatty acids we need: 2,5g alpha-linolenic acid and 6g linoleic acid So, 10% or 15% is all
we need with a safety margin, and while more than 15% maybe not be dangerous is certainly
uneccessary It's far more better, once you've got the amount of fat you really need, to consume
less fat and more vegetables, fruits, greens and legumes as they contain vitamins, minerals and
phytochemicals that we need in far greater quantity than essential fatty acids The more your fat
intake goes up, in turn making minerals, vitamins and phytochemicals intake go down, the more
you're eating something you don't need and not getting enough of something you really need
Prehistoric man was not healthy, and yup they were cannibals and many times they survived thanks to
their eating the corpses of their relatives, parents, friends who died because of cold climate,
thirst, vitamins and mineral deficiency or animal attack Also, different tribes have different
lifestyle Some of them could rely on small mammals, nuts, fruits and berries while others, living
in harsher zones simply starved

Niky