Did I really see that?

AustinMN said:

Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that moment also had the
biggest cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth. Yes, it was lit.

eh? a good percentage of the messengers smoke (cigarettes i mean) .. some on the bike .. their races
should really be split up into smoker and non- smoker categories. some of the younger ones (with
relatively pristine lungs) can really haul despite a pack a day habit. cigars are a lot easier (no
inhale) .. i've done it while riding.
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david reuteler

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:07:58 GMT, "AustinMN" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that moment also had the biggest
cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth. Yes, it was lit.

Wow. I probably wouldn't get more than a meter down the road with the saddle all the way down, blue
jeans, sweatshirt, etc while smoking a cigar and text messaging. Sounds like some pretty skilled
riders, if you ask me.
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Rick Onanian

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:07:54 -0500, Rick Onanian <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

AustinMN said:

Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that moment also had the
biggest cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth. Yes, it was lit.

Wow. I probably wouldn't get more than a meter down the road with the saddle all the way down, blue
jeans, sweatshirt, etc while smoking a cigar and text messaging. Sounds like some pretty skilled
riders, if you ask me.

That's what they make lowrider bikes for...!

-Luigi

Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:07:58 GMT,
<[email hidden]>,

AustinMN said:

Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that moment also had the biggest
cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth. Yes, it was lit.

Austin

So? They were out playing on a FMUP where they belonged.

No style points unless he had a beer holder on the handlebars and a cooler on the rack.
--
zk

They were probably on their way back to their Cadillac Escapades after a hard two miles! LOL

"May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:10:44 -0500 (EST), [email hidden] (Chris

Zacho 'The Wheelman') said:

They were probably on their way back to their Cadillac Escapades after a hard two miles! LOL

"Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a fortification by means of scaling-ladders"

-Luigi footnote

What about yankin their bell bottom jeans out of the front chain ring...

Luigi de Guzman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a fortification by means of scaling-
ladders"

It can also mean crossing a moat or ditch via ladder (used horizontally) which is a little closer to
their supposed use.

So, do the Caddies have a ladder frame? I've yet to pass under one to check.

Quoted message said:

Luigi de Guzman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a fortification by means of scaling-
ladders"

(Brian Huntley) said:

It can also mean crossing a moat or ditch via ladder (used horizontally) which is a little closer
to their supposed use.

I don't think there's anybody with any such illusion, not even somebody in the marketing department,
or any customer. They're worst expectation is to carry bicycles down a dirt road.

Speaking of which, I saw somebody with a Chevy Tahoe (same vehicle with less luxury) with a road
bike mounted to a roof rack, your average Thule or Yakima. How much trouble would somebody really
want to go to just to avoid putting the bike in the carpeted cargo area? That's a damn tall roof to
reach up and secure a bike -- it probably had to be done with a ladder.

Quoted message said:

So, do the Caddies have a ladder frame? I've yet to pass under one to check.

Yes. It's built on the GM full size pickup truck platform (as is the Tahoe mentioned above).
--
Rick Onanian

I've seen the same old hippie on our local Rails to Trails pedaling an old Murray road bike, playing
Grateful Dead on his boom box, while smoking a doobie.....

On 2 Mar 2004 08:04:17 -0800, [email hidden] (Brian

Huntley) said:

Luigi de Guzman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a fortification by means of scaling-
ladders"

It can also mean crossing a moat or ditch via ladder (used horizontally) which is a little closer
to their supposed use.

The closest to a ditch those barges get is the mall parking lot.

-Luigi

now, circumvallation--that's a word!

"Gooserider" <[email hidden]> writes:

mad stylee

Quoted message said:

I've seen the same old hippie on our local Rails to Trails pedaling an old Murray road bike,
playing Grateful Dead on his boom box, while smoking a doobie.....

--
Sincerely, Craig Brozefsky <[email hidden]

Gooserider said:

I've seen the same old hippie on our local Rails to Trails pedaling an old Murray road bike,
playing Grateful Dead on his boom box, while smoking a doobie.....

god bless america! or quite possibly canada.
--
david reuteler reuteler at visi dot com

"Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I don't think there's anybody with any such illusion, not even somebody in the marketing
department, or any customer. They're worst expectation is to carry bicycles down a dirt road.

A lot are under the impression that an SUV is as good or better than a minivan at carrying
people/stuff. Which is not the case.

Pete

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:30:10 GMT, "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> from

RoadRunner - Tampa Bay said:

I've seen the same old hippie on our local Rails to Trails pedaling an old Murray road bike,
playing Grateful Dead on his boom box, while smoking a doobie.....

Man, that sounds like The Life.

--
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quote...

"Major phred factor in force....blue jeans, sweatshirts and I think one T-shirt."

Yep, that's the attitude I love about "cyclists;" if you're not wearing the latest $200 shorts or
bibs, then you just ain't a cyclist.

Now could someone please tell just where in the hell it says that if someone is wearing bluejeans
and a sweatshirt it makes them any less of a cyclist than someone who has the most expensive outfit,
and most expensive bike to match???

No wonder so few people take up "cycling."

AJC

On 04 Mar 2004 04:38:45 GMT, [email hidden] (TheCyclist2002)

Quoted message said:

quote...

"Major phred factor in force....blue jeans, sweatshirts and I think one T-shirt."

Yep, that's the attitude I love about "cyclists;" if you're not wearing the latest $200 shorts or
bibs, then you just ain't a cyclist.

Now could someone please tell just where in the hell it says that if someone is wearing bluejeans
and a sweatshirt it makes them any less of a cyclist than someone who has the most expensive
outfit, and most expensive bike to match???

having ridden in bluejeans, I have to say that the pain that these cause after a while in the saddle
limits range. If i'm wearing jeans and on a bicycle, then I'm on a quick ride to the store or the
library or whatever.

I've nothing against being dressed correctly for a given situation; if the situation is an audax
ride, bluejeans aren't going to do. They will hurt.

Quoted message said:

No wonder so few people take up "cycling."

True. But a lot fo those people also have bicycles. It's tough to reach out to them and get them to
ride on the road, with traffic, obeying the laws, though....

*sigh*

-Luigi

Quoted message said:

AJC

Luigi de Guzman said:

having ridden in bluejeans, I have to say that the pain that these cause after a while in the
saddle limits range. If i'm wearing jeans and on a bicycle, then I'm on a quick ride to the store
or the library or whatever.

I think this depends on the person, or perhaps on the jeans. I've gone on 20 mile and longer rides
in blue jeans and it's never been a problem for me.
--
Ben Pfaff email: [email hidden] web: benpfaff.orgbenpfaff.orgOpen ↗

In article <[email hidden]>,

(TheCyclist2002) said:

quote...

"Major phred factor in force....blue jeans, sweatshirts and I think one T-shirt."

Yep, that's the attitude I love about "cyclists;" if you're not wearing the latest $200 shorts or
bibs, then you just ain't a cyclist.

Now could someone please tell just where in the hell it says that if someone is wearing bluejeans
and a sweatshirt it makes them any less of a cyclist than someone who has the most expensive
outfit, and most expensive bike to match???

No wonder so few people take up "cycling."

People /should/ be able to ride, and dress "normal". For short, utilitarian hops, it's
even possible.

But the fact remains that for round trip distances of 6-10 miles or more, one has to wear attire
that best interfaces the human body with the vehicle. With bicycles, that means chamoised shorts, no
cotton, and no copper jeans rivets.

Otherwise, PicAssO forRestOfLifeO. Only other option would be operacion majorca with a sizzling
Hyfrecator, burningly painful sitz baths, and medical personnel passing by and looking amusedly at
you with your ass squatted in a large bowl of epsom salt warm water.

Cycling is serious beeswax.

Just 'cuz in the movie dusters ppl readily hop onto horses like we jump into taxis, doesn't mean
horseback riding is a piece of cake, either. Same with bikes.

Take care of your ass, and it will take care of you. Don't take care of it, and it'll take you out.

cheers, Tom

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