Did everyone here......

Loco~Motion said:

Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal activities,
without extra exercise?

Hi there:

I lost a lot of weight on lowcarb. I was really fat and did absolutely
nothing physical for the first four months for alas, I was too fat.

I lost about sixty pounds that way.

To get all the way to Goal and then to Impossible Goal, I had to work
out.

c

Nowhere near either at the moment

Loco~Motion said:

Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal activities,
without extra exercise?

Yes. I lost 60 pounds my first time low-carbing (in three chunks of
about 20, separated by a couple plateaus) by staying below 30g/day of
carbs (Protein Power's stage I), without any extra exercise. I was
getting some exercise at the time, but no more than I had been before
starting the plan.

On the other hand, a few summers ago, my sisters talked me into running
in a 5K with them. We were all overweight and pretty sedentary, so we
spent three months training for it, running three days a week and riding
bikes most of the other days. By the time we finished it, I was up to
running five miles on running days. I felt good, and the progress we
made, from gasping to a stop after 1/4 mile at first to handling five
miles just fine three months later, was amazing and gratifying.

But I didn't lose *a single pound*. We ran at our parents' farm, which
meant I was there for at least one high-carb meal every day. My meals
at home were still pretty low-carb, or who knows, I might have *gained*
weight while doing all that running.

Some will say I must have just eaten more calories to match the
increased exercise. Fine. It didn't seem like I ate more, but maybe I
did. I'll be the first to admit it's easy enough to vary your calories
drastically without realizing it (one big reason why controlling
calories doesn't work). Whatever the reason, I didn't lose weight
despite drastically increasing my exercise. Diet trumps exercise, at
least for me. When I'm getting the diet right, exercise might - might -
help; but the diet comes first.

--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Loco~Motion wrote in message ...

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Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal

activities,

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without extra exercise?

No. I did lose 35 pounds initially, without much excercise at all, but
now I do walk everyday, not fast or anything, just walk.

Cheri

:: Loco~Motion wrote in message ...
::: Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
::: low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal
::: activities, without extra exercise?

I may be speaking out of turn here, but I think Cubit lost a lot of his
weight without any formal exercise. It is quite possible to lose weight
without exercise, mind you. You just need to be really really careful about
that you eat. Track everything and weigh yourself to make sure you're not
overeating.

:: Loco~Motion wrote in message ...
::: Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
::: low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal
::: activities, without extra exercise?

I may be speaking out of turn here, but I think Cubit lost a lot of his
weight without any formal exercise. It is quite possible to lose weight
without exercise, mind you. You just need to be really really careful about
that you eat. Track everything and weigh yourself to make sure you're not
overeating.

On the path from 320 to 146, I worked out on exercise machines at the YMCA
while I was moving from 230 to 190. The rest of the time I just used low
carb and calorie control to lose the weight.

I forget what weigh range it was, but there was a phase during my weightloss
where I felt light and floaty. It was like I was superman, when climbing
stairs. It was effortless. Now, I feel the work of stairs, but my stamina
lets me do all the stairs I want.

Cubit
320/155/160

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Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal activities,
without extra exercise?

No, yes. I lost 60 pounds just by eating low carb, regained about 10, but
weighed myself this morning and am down about four pounds from that point,
not sure what I have been doing right but probably just eating a little
less. I went through a period of being really tired last winter and when I
am tired I eat more so that may be the difference. I am nowhere near what
you would consider a goal. I have never set a goal, just tried low carb to
see what would happen and just by omitting certain things from my diet I
lost weight. I do feel better with that weight gone but am not motivated to
work on losing more. When you are very heavy it comes off easily, the less
you weigh the harder it gets to lose more.

I don't/won't exercise. I think exercise is very good for you but I hate to
do it, I am lazy, my back and other parts have problems, I hate doctors too
much to deal with them to try to fix these problems. I am almost 72, in my
second childhood with no parents to make me do what is good for me. I don't
complain about the consequences of my behavior. I have been eating LC for
four years now, will continue to do so as it is one thing that is very easy
for me and it does keep me thinner than I would be otherwise.

Loco~Motion wrote:
| Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
| low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal
| activities, without extra exercise?

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I don't/won't exercise. I think exercise is very good for you but I

hate to

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do it, I am lazy, my back and other parts have problems, I hate

doctors too

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much to deal with them to try to fix these problems. I am almost 72,

in my

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second childhood with no parents to make me do what is good for me.

I don't

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complain about the consequences of my behavior. I have been eating

LC for

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four years now, will continue to do so as it is one thing that is

very easy

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for me and it does keep me thinner than I would be otherwise.

I think we were separated at birth. :-)

Cheri

FOB wrote:
:: :: problems. I am almost 72, in my second childhood with no parents to

At this age, you do whatever the hell you want to do.

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FOB wrote:
:: :: problems. I am almost 72, in my second childhood with no

parents to

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At this age, you do whatever the hell you want to do.

Well said Roger. Let it all hang loose, or "lose" if you prefer. ;-)

Cheri

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Loco~Motion said:

Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal activities,
without extra exercise?

Hi there:

I lost a lot of weight on lowcarb. I was really fat and did absolutely
nothing physical for the first four months for alas, I was too fat.

I lost about sixty pounds that way.

To get all the way to Goal and then to Impossible Goal, I had to work
out.

c

Nowhere near either at the moment

Well don't give up! :-) Even if you lose a lb a week it's progress.

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Loco~Motion said:

Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal activities,
without extra exercise?

Yes. I lost 60 pounds my first time low-carbing (in three chunks of
about 20, separated by a couple plateaus) by staying below 30g/day of
carbs (Protein Power's stage I), without any extra exercise. I was
getting some exercise at the time, but no more than I had been before
starting the plan.

On the other hand, a few summers ago, my sisters talked me into running
in a 5K with them. We were all overweight and pretty sedentary, so we
spent three months training for it, running three days a week and riding
bikes most of the other days. By the time we finished it, I was up to
running five miles on running days. I felt good, and the progress we
made, from gasping to a stop after 1/4 mile at first to handling five
miles just fine three months later, was amazing and gratifying.

But I didn't lose *a single pound*. We ran at our parents' farm, which
meant I was there for at least one high-carb meal every day. My meals
at home were still pretty low-carb, or who knows, I might have *gained*
weight while doing all that running.

Some will say I must have just eaten more calories to match the
increased exercise. Fine. It didn't seem like I ate more, but maybe I
did. I'll be the first to admit it's easy enough to vary your calories
drastically without realizing it (one big reason why controlling
calories doesn't work). Whatever the reason, I didn't lose weight
despite drastically increasing my exercise. Diet trumps exercise, at
least for me. When I'm getting the diet right, exercise might - might -
help; but the diet comes first.

Thank you Aaron. I probably will never be able to jog/run again but I think
the Dr will allow me to start walking the threadmill soon. I should know
something next week. Do you think if you had eaten low-carb at the farm you
would have lost weight?

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--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

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Loco~Motion wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal

activities,

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without extra exercise?

No. I did lose 35 pounds initially, without much excercise at all, but
now I do walk everyday, not fast or anything, just walk.

Cheri

Thanks for the reply Cheri. See I don't know if I would have lost without
the treadmill as I started both low-carbing and walking at the same time. I
was wondering if anyone had lost weight with just their normal routine.

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:: Loco~Motion wrote in message ...
::: Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
::: low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal
::: activities, without extra exercise?

I may be speaking out of turn here, but I think Cubit lost a lot of his
weight without any formal exercise. It is quite possible to lose weight
without exercise, mind you. You just need to be really really careful
about that you eat. Track everything and weigh yourself to make sure
you're not overeating.

Yes, thanks.... I've changed my diet a little and will see what happens.

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On the path from 320 to 146, I worked out on exercise machines at the YMCA
while I was moving from 230 to 190. The rest of the time I just used low
carb and calorie control to lose the weight.

I forget what weigh range it was, but there was a phase during my
weightloss where I felt light and floaty. It was like I was superman,
when climbing stairs. It was effortless. Now, I feel the work of stairs,
but my stamina lets me do all the stairs I want.

Cubit
320/155/160

Talking about stairs.... I'm up and down the porch steps 100 times a day
here. It sure keeps those old legs in shape. :o) What I started doing is
eating less fat and protein and more low-carb veggies with just a very
little oil or bacon grease. I grow a garden so they're pretty much
unlimited around here. That should cut calories quite a bit.

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No, yes. I lost 60 pounds just by eating low carb, regained about 10, but
weighed myself this morning and am down about four pounds from that point,
not sure what I have been doing right but probably just eating a little
less. I went through a period of being really tired last winter and when
I
am tired I eat more so that may be the difference. I am nowhere near what
you would consider a goal. I have never set a goal, just tried low carb
to
see what would happen and just by omitting certain things from my diet I
lost weight. I do feel better with that weight gone but am not motivated
to
work on losing more. When you are very heavy it comes off easily, the
less
you weigh the harder it gets to lose more.

I think I may be at that point now, exercise or no exercise. I've cut the
fat and meat and am eating a lot more veggies. I'll weigh myself in a few
days and see if I've lost anything. I'm still at least 35 lbs from goal but
do feel so much better already and my BP was down to 136/80. :-) I'm
waiting for the results of the blood work.

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I don't/won't exercise. I think exercise is very good for you but I hate
to
do it, I am lazy, my back and other parts have problems, I hate doctors
too
much to deal with them to try to fix these problems. I am almost 72, in
my
second childhood with no parents to make me do what is good for me. I
don't
complain about the consequences of my behavior. I have been eating LC for
four years now, will continue to do so as it is one thing that is very
easy
for me and it does keep me thinner than I would be otherwise.

LOL!!! You're funny. I'm not lazy, just too tired sometimes to exercise
and my time is limited most days. I'm busy and on the run, so the thought
of exercise at times makes me feel even more tired. :o) There were days
on the treadmill I thought I would lose my sanity as I find exercise deadly
boring. But I'm desperate to get this weight off so stuck to it until the
accident.

Loco~Motion said:

Thank you Aaron. I probably will never be able to jog/run again but I
think the Dr will allow me to start walking the threadmill soon. I
should know something next week. Do you think if you had eaten
low-carb at the farm you would have lost weight?

I'm sure of it. But my family's always eaten a very Midwest American
farmer's meat-and-potatoes diet. Lots of good protein and home-grown
garden produce, but lots of carbs too, and plenty of baked goods. My
parents work it off with an enormous amount of physical labor on the
farm, but my brother and sisters and I are all overweight. I'm by far
the leanest, but if I hadn't started low-carbing a few years ago, I'd
probably be well over 300 pounds by now and just as heavy
fat-percentage-wise as the others. (That's not an excuse, by the way; I
could have exercised with them and not eaten with them. I made that
choice, probably thinking that the huge increase in exercise would make
up for the carbs -- which it did; I maintained my weight.)

I give exercise a hard time here, but it's not because I think it's bad
or useless (although Taubes talks about studies suggesting that exercise
makes it harder to lose weight, they're hardly conclusive), but because
I think it's the wrong place to put one's primary focus. The "Oh, just
eat less and exercise" paradigm is so pervasive that people have to be
shocked out of it. That's why I say things like, "Calories are
irrelevant," and, "Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss." They
may not be technically true, but they're truer than most people think,
and they do get a conversation going. I just think when the question
is, "Why am I not losing weight?" the best answer is rarely, "Lack of
exercise."

I've started a bodyweight exercise program myself, because I want to get
stronger and I want to tighten up some of the flabby skin I've got
that's only going to get flabbier as I lose weight. I'm a pretty
muscular guy -- when I went to college, I lived in the same building as
the football players, and people at parties used to ask me what position
I played -- but those muscles have gone awfully soft over the years.
(They also said I looked like Governor Arnold, but this was 1987, so
both of us look a bit different now.)

My plans are to be healthier and look better, and low-carbing and
exercise will both contribute to that, albeit perhaps independently of
each other.

--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

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Loco~Motion said:

Did everyone on this NG start an exercise program when you started
low-carbing? Has anyone lost weight with just their normal activities,
without extra exercise?

Yes. I lost 60 pounds my first time low-carbing (in three chunks of
about 20, separated by a couple plateaus) by staying below 30g/day of
carbs (Protein Power's stage I), without any extra exercise. I was
getting some exercise at the time, but no more than I had been before
starting the plan.

On the other hand, a few summers ago, my sisters talked me into running
in a 5K with them. We were all overweight and pretty sedentary, so we
spent three months training for it, running three days a week and riding
bikes most of the other days. By the time we finished it, I was up to
running five miles on running days. I felt good, and the progress we
made, from gasping to a stop after 1/4 mile at first to handling five
miles just fine three months later, was amazing and gratifying.

But I didn't lose *a single pound*.

Were you trying to lose?

We ran at our parents' farm, which

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meant I was there for at least one high-carb meal every day. My meals
at home were still pretty low-carb, or who knows, I might have *gained*
weight while doing all that running.

Some will say I must have just eaten more calories to match the
increased exercise. Fine. It didn't seem like I ate more, but maybe I
did. I'll be the first to admit it's easy enough to vary your calories
drastically without realizing it (one big reason why controlling
calories doesn't work).

What? If you're controlling your calories than you aren't going ot vary your
calories drastically. There simply is no way to do that without actually
noticing that you're eating more.

Whatever the reason, I didn't lose weight

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despite drastically increasing my exercise. Diet trumps exercise, at
least for me. When I'm getting the diet right, exercise might - might -
help; but the diet comes first.

Diet does trump exercise. That's because you can easily out eat what you can
get rid of via exercise. Hence, if you try to lose weight without paying
attention to what you eat you'll very likely be unsuccessful. if you
carefullly monitor how much you eat, you an use exercise you enhance weight
loss and improve fitness.

"Aaron Baugher" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I give exercise a hard time here, but it's not because I think it's bad
or useless (although Taubes talks about studies suggesting that exercise
makes it harder to lose weight, they're hardly conclusive),

Under certain conditions, I believe that to be true!

but because

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I think it's the wrong place to put one's primary focus. The "Oh, just
eat less and exercise" paradigm is so pervasive that people have to be
shocked out of it. That's why I say things like, "Calories are
irrelevant,"

That's nonsense. 🙂

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and, "Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss."

That's nonsense, too. 🙂

They

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may not be technically true, but they're truer than most people think,
and they do get a conversation going. I just think when the question
is, "Why am I not losing weight?" the best answer is rarely, "Lack of
exercise."

I do agree with you here.

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I've started a bodyweight exercise program myself, because I want to get
stronger and I want to tighten up some of the flabby skin I've got
that's only going to get flabbier as I lose weight.

I do not see the connection.

I'm a pretty

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muscular guy -- when I went to college, I lived in the same building as
the football players, and people at parties used to ask me what position
I played -- but those muscles have gone awfully soft over the years.
(They also said I looked like Governor Arnold, but this was 1987, so
both of us look a bit different now.)

My plans are to be healthier and look better, and low-carbing and
exercise will both contribute to that, albeit perhaps independently of
each other.

No, they can & will work in concert.