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  1. I have just had a blood test including the fast beforehand and my results
    were negative but a result of 4.9.
    I have been told that 4 is normal but I am above that, anyone know of sites
    where I can read up on sports with diabetes. I am a little worried that it
    may increase or am I fooling myself?
    My doctor really did not seem to much help. I am just completely confused
    with no information.
    Help!

    Regards

    Kent

  2. I am just completely confused

    Quoted message said:

    with no information.
    Help!

    Regards

    Kent

    You could start here : http://www.diabetes-exercise.org/index.asp

  3. I'm diabetic but control it with diet and exercise, no need for insulin
    yet (but I work hard to keep that from happening).
    I highly recommend: 1) seeing a diabetic specialist and 2) get a copy of
    "The Diabetic Athlete" by Sheri Goldberg
    Diabetics can lead a full, wonderful life despite the diagnosis, however
    ignoring or taking diabetes lightly can be devastating.

    Eric

  4. Thanks for that I shall get straight down the Library.

    Kent
    "Eric" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm diabetic but control it with diet and exercise, no need for insulin
    yet (but I work hard to keep that from happening).
    I highly recommend: 1) seeing a diabetic specialist and 2) get a copy of
    "The Diabetic Athlete" by Sheri Goldberg
    Diabetics can lead a full, wonderful life despite the diagnosis, however
    ignoring or taking diabetes lightly can be devastating.

    Eric

  5. Eric said:

    I'm diabetic but control it with diet and exercise, no need for insulin
    yet (but I work hard to keep that from happening).
    I highly recommend:

    Quoted message said:

    1) seeing a diabetic specialist and

    With or without the specialist, keeping the numbers as normal as
    possible should be your top priority. This means eliminating
    rapid-absorbing carbs (cake, doughnuts, etc.) from the diet, except in
    very small portions to treat low blood sugars. The calories can be
    replaced with a combination of protiens, fats, and slower-absorbing
    carbs.

    Whatever amount of carbs you decide to eat should come from slower
    digesting foods that don't spike the blood sugars. This is partly
    determined by trial and error with the meter. For me, this means
    better sources of carbs are vegetables, beans, and some fruits
    (strawberries, apples, grapefruits, etc.).

    If you cannot acheive normal blood sugars (<= 100 mg/dl fasting whole
    blood glucose) by diet alone, you should insist on medications. If
    the doctor refuses, get another one.

    Quoted message said:

    2) get a copy of
    "The Diabetic Athlete" by Sheri Goldberg

    I've had type 1 diabetes for one year and have been doing triathlons
    for 3 years and quite frankly, I do not find that book to be very
    useful. The bottom line is that everyone who uses insulin must make
    some adjustment or compensation when they exercise, be it eating
    during exercise or injecting more or less insulin before or after.
    About 80% of the book is just statistics telling how much so and so
    adjusts thier insulin and carb intake and what sport they're involved
    in. It makes for boring reading, and, in my opinion, many of them are
    doing things that put their blood sugars higher than they need to be.

    Quoted message said:

    Diabetics can lead a full, wonderful life despite the diagnosis, however
    ignoring or taking diabetes lightly can be devastating.


    Yes, but training for a half-ironman like I'm doing is a real pain in
    the ass when the lights keep going dim from low blood sugars in the
    20's and 30's. At least, I think I'm starting to get a handle on it
    at this point.

    Since you're diabetic and presumably not on any meds, your main
    concerns should be avoiding high, not low blood sugars. These can be
    caused by:

    (1) too much carbs or too fast-acting carbs in a meal or snack.
    (2) sickness
    (3) adrenaline spikes from very short, high-intensity exercise

    My blood sugar once went from 98 to 250 after running a hard 5k and
    not using insulin before hand. The remedy I found for this problem
    was simply to use extra insulin with a small meal before the race.

    Quoted message said:

    Eric

  6. Thanks Eric,
    It is all new to me and as such I need as much info as poss. As I have been
    informed I am an 'almost' diabetic I will cut down on the high sugar foods
    but still use gels for races. It's just that I feel I am being asked to be
    careful but without any knowledge. Anything I can read up upon may help me
    to understand what lies ahead.
    My main question is, I know my diet is '[censored]' for what I do, If I continue
    on this path will my 'almost' become definite and also continue to type 2 if
    I do nothing? If it is progressive can I slow it?

    You points on the 5k run with the mg/dl I really don't know what they mean
    so I have to find some information source, anything may help, your comments
    I will start using immediatly. Thanks.

    Kent
    "Radioactive Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Eric said:

    I'm diabetic but control it with diet and exercise, no need for insulin
    yet (but I work hard to keep that from happening).
    I highly recommend:

    Quoted message said:

    1) seeing a diabetic specialist and

    With or without the specialist, keeping the numbers as normal as
    possible should be your top priority. This means eliminating
    rapid-absorbing carbs (cake, doughnuts, etc.) from the diet, except in
    very small portions to treat low blood sugars. The calories can be
    replaced with a combination of protiens, fats, and slower-absorbing
    carbs.

    Whatever amount of carbs you decide to eat should come from slower
    digesting foods that don't spike the blood sugars. This is partly
    determined by trial and error with the meter. For me, this means
    better sources of carbs are vegetables, beans, and some fruits
    (strawberries, apples, grapefruits, etc.).

    If you cannot acheive normal blood sugars (<= 100 mg/dl fasting whole
    blood glucose) by diet alone, you should insist on medications. If
    the doctor refuses, get another one.

    Quoted message said:

    2) get a copy of
    "The Diabetic Athlete" by Sheri Goldberg

    I've had type 1 diabetes for one year and have been doing triathlons
    for 3 years and quite frankly, I do not find that book to be very
    useful. The bottom line is that everyone who uses insulin must make
    some adjustment or compensation when they exercise, be it eating
    during exercise or injecting more or less insulin before or after.
    About 80% of the book is just statistics telling how much so and so
    adjusts thier insulin and carb intake and what sport they're involved
    in. It makes for boring reading, and, in my opinion, many of them are
    doing things that put their blood sugars higher than they need to be.

    Quoted message said:

    Diabetics can lead a full, wonderful life despite the diagnosis, however
    ignoring or taking diabetes lightly can be devastating.


    Yes, but training for a half-ironman like I'm doing is a real pain in
    the ass when the lights keep going dim from low blood sugars in the
    20's and 30's. At least, I think I'm starting to get a handle on it
    at this point.

    Since you're diabetic and presumably not on any meds, your main
    concerns should be avoiding high, not low blood sugars. These can be
    caused by:

    (1) too much carbs or too fast-acting carbs in a meal or snack.
    (2) sickness
    (3) adrenaline spikes from very short, high-intensity exercise

    My blood sugar once went from 98 to 250 after running a hard 5k and
    not using insulin before hand. The remedy I found for this problem
    was simply to use extra insulin with a small meal before the race.

    Quoted message said:

    Eric


  7. Kent said:

    Thanks Eric,
    It is all new to me and as such I need as much info as poss. As I have been
    informed I am an 'almost' diabetic I will cut down on the high sugar foods
    but still use gels for races. It's just that I feel I am being asked to be
    careful but without any knowledge. Anything I can read up upon may help me
    to understand what lies ahead.
    My main question is, I know my diet is '[censored]' for what I do, If I continue
    on this path will my 'almost' become definite and also continue to type 2 if
    I do nothing? If it is progressive can I slow it?

    With diet alone, the most agressive things you could do to prevent
    high blood sugars would be to try something like the Bernstein,
    Atkins, or South Beach diet (all low carb and/or low-GI):

    www.diabetes-normalsugars.com

    http://atkins.com/

    www.southbeachdiet.com

    The biggest downside to a low-carb diet for any athlete (and many
    non-athletes as well), is that you simply may not have enough energy
    to function. Another problem with the extremely aggressive low-carb
    diets is that you find will find yourself counting out things like
    almonds or tofu (which have a small fraction of carbs) or packs of
    artificial sweeteners (because of the bit of dextrose used to bulk
    them up).

    When I first figured out I had diabetes, I controlled it by diet alone
    - basically by eating no carbs except those in vegetables and tofu
    and such. The immediate consequence of that was that I became about
    10% slower in the pool and could not swim as far. Once I went on
    insulin and started eating more carbs (but still less than when I was
    healthy), my times and distances went back to normal and started to
    improve gradually as they had before.

    In the end, you'll have to figure it out by a trial and error process
    (testing before and after eating and exercise to determine the
    effects) and how aggressive you're willing to be in controlling blood
    sugars.

    Quoted message said:


    You points on the 5k run with the mg/dl I really don't know what they mean
    so I have to find some information source, anything may help, your comments
    I will start using immediatly. Thanks.

    I believe the conversion factor from my numbers (mg/dl) to yours
    (mmol/L) is 18, meaning you divide mine by 18.

    Quoted message said:


    Kent
    "Radioactive Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Eric said:

    I'm diabetic but control it with diet and exercise, no need for insulin
    yet (but I work hard to keep that from happening).
    I highly recommend:

    Quoted message said:

    1) seeing a diabetic specialist and

    With or without the specialist, keeping the numbers as normal as
    possible should be your top priority. This means eliminating
    rapid-absorbing carbs (cake, doughnuts, etc.) from the diet, except in
    very small portions to treat low blood sugars. The calories can be
    replaced with a combination of protiens, fats, and slower-absorbing
    carbs.

    Whatever amount of carbs you decide to eat should come from slower
    digesting foods that don't spike the blood sugars. This is partly
    determined by trial and error with the meter. For me, this means
    better sources of carbs are vegetables, beans, and some fruits
    (strawberries, apples, grapefruits, etc.).

    If you cannot acheive normal blood sugars (<= 100 mg/dl fasting whole
    blood glucose) by diet alone, you should insist on medications. If
    the doctor refuses, get another one.

    Quoted message said:

    2) get a copy of
    "The Diabetic Athlete" by Sheri Goldberg

    I've had type 1 diabetes for one year and have been doing triathlons
    for 3 years and quite frankly, I do not find that book to be very
    useful. The bottom line is that everyone who uses insulin must make
    some adjustment or compensation when they exercise, be it eating
    during exercise or injecting more or less insulin before or after.
    About 80% of the book is just statistics telling how much so and so
    adjusts thier insulin and carb intake and what sport they're involved
    in. It makes for boring reading, and, in my opinion, many of them are
    doing things that put their blood sugars higher than they need to be.

    Quoted message said:

    Diabetics can lead a full, wonderful life despite the diagnosis, however
    ignoring or taking diabetes lightly can be devastating.


    Yes, but training for a half-ironman like I'm doing is a real pain in
    the ass when the lights keep going dim from low blood sugars in the
    20's and 30's. At least, I think I'm starting to get a handle on it
    at this point.

    Since you're diabetic and presumably not on any meds, your main
    concerns should be avoiding high, not low blood sugars. These can be
    caused by:

    (1) too much carbs or too fast-acting carbs in a meal or snack.
    (2) sickness
    (3) adrenaline spikes from very short, high-intensity exercise

    My blood sugar once went from 98 to 250 after running a hard 5k and
    not using insulin before hand. The remedy I found for this problem
    was simply to use extra insulin with a small meal before the race.

    Quoted message said:

    Eric



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