Diabetic questions

thanks for the invite 🙂 im going to get things sorted out and once i know
for sure, ill be sure to head on over. hell, might head on over anyway to
get a feel for what i might be up against......

--
_____________________________
This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY!

"Nicky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"tia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

honestly, ketosticks arent much more expensive, so $22 for 50 isnt all
THAT bad... it depends how many times a day id need to test and all
that...

you say that not eating makes your glucose levels rise? i havent really
been eating in a long time - atleast a week of mostly water.. i had two
meals this week b/c of stress - if i am type 2, what kind of damage am i
doing???? 🙁

Don't get stressed about it! : ) Nibbling small bites when you can during
the day will be fine. Low carb is a damn good way of controlling diabetes,
so you're not going to be doing extra damage whilst you mark time until
you and your husband can get home.

Once you are, and you've got your insurance sorted, you're probably going
to want to test a LOT to begin with, because you need to build up a
database of how different meals and food combos affect you. I did 11x per
day for a couple of months; now I test on new foods, before eating and 1
and 2 hours after.

Whilst you're twiddling your thumbs, try Gretchen Becker's book Type 2
Diabetes; The First Year - it wouldn't surprise me if the hospital library
(if there is one) has a copy.

Then come over to alt.support.diabetes too : )

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/78/72Kg
1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

"tia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

honestly, ketosticks arent much more expensive, so $22 for 50 isnt all

THAT

Quoted message said:

bad... it depends how many times a day id need to test and all that...

you say that not eating makes your glucose levels rise? i havent really
been eating in a long time - atleast a week of mostly water.. i had two
meals this week b/c of stress - if i am type 2, what kind of damage am i
doing???? 🙁

I'm not sure what not eating for a week would do, I'm not about to try it.
If you really don't feel like eating, just have a snack, a few celery sticks
with some peanut butter or cheese, a few bites of meat from a fast food
hamburger (not the bun) or green salad, some no-sugar-added yogurt, a few
berries, etc. Several smaller meals work better for a lot of people than
3 squares a day, anyway. Drink water, don't let yourself get dehydrated.
Mostly the testing is, for us, a way to see how different foods affect our
glucose, carbs are the thing that affect it the most. When drs tell you
when to test they are looking to see your overall control so they usually
tell you to test morning fasting and/or before meals so they can tell if you
need medication or insulin, etc., those readings tell us nothing about our
after meal numbers. As long as you are eating very low carb and your BG is
staying low I wouldn't worry about testing a whole lot unless you cheat,
just to see if what you ate is bad for your BG because it is a very
individual thing, or after breakfast because that is when many of us are
most sensitive to carbs.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

tia said:

we have a situation where i might not be covered.

i'm sorry to hear that.

Quoted message said:

i do take offense to be called a liar,

don't contradict yourself so obviously, then.

Quoted message said:

but it seems like you are just openly
hostile no matter what... so..
there you go.

i'm not hostile. i'm easily annoyed, and you're very annoying.

"Jennifer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Here's the diagnostic criteria for diabetes... if you meet it, your doctor
is doing you no favors in not diagnosing you.

A diagnosis of diabetes is made when any ONE of these three tests is
positive, followed by a second positive test on a different day:

* Fasting plasma glucose of greater than or equal to 126 mg/dl.

* A random glucose test (taken at any time of the day) of greater than
or equal to 200 mg/dl.

* Oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) value of greater than or equal to
200 mg/dl measured at a two-hour interval. The OGTT is given over a
three-hour timespan.

Jennifer

tia said:

ive had my sugar checked many times since my mom always had problems with
her sugar. my doctor says im not diabetic. he does say im extremely
sensitive to sugar tho, and my reaction to it is really bad. however,
without me crashing on the fasting test, the results are not conclusive
for diabetes... sorry.

I have to watch my sugar - or I will become a diabetic later in life. My BG
rarely goes high. In a 5 hour tolerance trest went to 130 and within about
45 minutes from that - dropped to 44. I felt so sick at that time. Since
hypoglycemia is too much insulin - there isn't a whole lot I can do except
eat something that will bring my BG up in a hurry - protein or fruit juice
is preferrable. If that isn't around - somethng starchy next - not a good
choice for an LCer - but don't normally have episodes if I don't eat a lot
of processed sugar or starches. LC has pretty much stabilized my BG and I
don't feel tired every afternoon around 3:00 unless I eat too much starch.
Diane

marengo said:

"Sprgtime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]
|| So... last night we found out that hubby is most likely diabetic.
||
|| We went into the ER because of his flu... his temperature was 102,
|| his heartrate was 141... and his blood sugar was 290.
||
|| After a few hours they checked his blood sugar again (they had been
|| rehydrating him with an IV - he was very dehydrated) and it had
|| lowered a little to 287. They had him drink a glass of orange juice
|| and eat some graham crackers. (Does that sound strange to anybody
|| else??)

Strange? IMO it's downright malpractice! They force sugar and starches
into someone with extremely high blood glucose levels, then shoot them up
with insulin?

The sheer stupidity of some people in the medical profession never ceases to
amaze me!
Peter
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Not necessarily. A lot of illnesses will elevate blood
sugar, without a person being diabetic. This may very well
have been a quick test. Once they saw that his sugar rose
after the OJ and crackers, they gave him the proper treatment.

Marsha/Ohio

Marsha said:

Not necessarily. A lot of illnesses will elevate blood sugar, without a
person being diabetic. This may very well have been a quick test. Once
they saw that his sugar rose after the OJ and crackers, they gave him
the proper treatment.

Marsha/Ohio

Not to almost 300.

That is diabetes.

Jennifer

tia said:

i dunno what to say then.. ok lets say i am type 2... now that im on atkins
controlling my bloodsugar, im no longer diabetic, right? i never actually
considered the possibility because i never crashed. no matter how bad i got
(shakey) i never worried about it because i never went below 90.

I am hypoglycemic (when I eat badly) and my dad was too, and now he is
type 2. The shaky feeling is from the speed of the blood sugar crash.
When your blood sugar drops quickly, your body releases not only
insulin, but adrenalin to counteract the crash. Excess adrenalin makes
you shake, like when you are scared or startled. 90 is only your
"documented" low. You could have dropped lower, especially if you
waited to test until you were feeling shaky. By the time you get that
feeling, your body has already started working to bring your sugar back
up.

Is this shaky feeling common for you? I used to crash once or twice a
day before I changed my diet. Hypoglycemia can be so bad! It can
really mess up your life. Been there.

Christy

tia said:

thanks for the invite 🙂 im going to get things sorted out and once i know
for sure, ill be sure to head on over. hell, might head on over anyway to
get a feel for what i might be up against......

Okay, Tia, I realize that several members of the group have given you
very good advise, and that you may very well be diabetic. What they
didn't tell you was to see a *different* doctor than the one who told
you that you weren't diabetic. Second opinions are worth it IMO.
Especially since the first opinion makes no sense to me.

I'm guessing that you could be like me: hypoglycemic and headed for
type 2 diabetes if untreated. When I was dx'd, I told my mom to have my
dad get checked out, since he had the same symptoms (hungry, cranky,
then sleepy after eating.) She said he was fine. Two years later he
was dx'd with type 2. I know that I am headed down that road if I don't
control my diet permanently!

Hang in there until you can get checked by a doctor, and keep low-carbing!

Christy

then be annoyed heh.. i havent contradicted myself and i clarified myself
when people had questions. ive done all i can to try to be nice to you but
apparently that isnt working. anyway, later.

--
_____________________________
This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY!

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

tia said:

we have a situation where i might not be covered.

i'm sorry to hear that.

Quoted message said:

i do take offense to be called a liar,

don't contradict yourself so obviously, then.

Quoted message said:

but it seems like you are just openly
hostile no matter what... so..
there you go.

i'm not hostile. i'm easily annoyed, and you're very annoying.

i was told something like that by the doctor, but from what im reading here
folks are saying something else. im going to see what help i can get to get
a proper diagnosis.

--
_____________________________
This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY!

"Christy Herron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

tia said:

thanks for the invite 🙂 im going to get things sorted out and once i
know for sure, ill be sure to head on over. hell, might head on over
anyway to get a feel for what i might be up against......

Okay, Tia, I realize that several members of the group have given you very
good advise, and that you may very well be diabetic. What they didn't
tell you was to see a *different* doctor than the one who told you that
you weren't diabetic. Second opinions are worth it IMO. Especially since
the first opinion makes no sense to me.

I'm guessing that you could be like me: hypoglycemic and headed for type
2 diabetes if untreated. When I was dx'd, I told my mom to have my dad
get checked out, since he had the same symptoms (hungry, cranky, then
sleepy after eating.) She said he was fine. Two years later he was dx'd
with type 2. I know that I am headed down that road if I don't control my
diet permanently!

Hang in there until you can get checked by a doctor, and keep low-carbing!

Christy

Diane Ball said:

I have to watch my sugar - or I will become a diabetic later in life. My BG
rarely goes high. In a 5 hour tolerance trest went to 130 and within about
45 minutes from that - dropped to 44. I felt so sick at that time. Since
hypoglycemia is too much insulin - there isn't a whole lot I can do except
eat something that will bring my BG up in a hurry - protein or fruit juice
is preferrable.

Not protein, but the fruit juice is good. You want something with
readily available carbs. Protein takes quite a while to show up as
glucose in your blood, plus it only translates to glucose at a rate of
about 58%. I keep some candy in my coat pocket, just in case. Once
you're out of hypo, then some protein to keep you in a good range is a
good idea, but it won't do beans to get you out of hypo in a hurry.

Quoted message said:

If that isn't around - somethng starchy next - not a good
choice for an LCer - but don't normally have episodes if I don't eat a lot
of processed sugar or starches. LC has pretty much stabilized my BG and I
don't feel tired every afternoon around 3:00 unless I eat too much starch.

Do you have a glucometer? You might find it interesting to see what
your BG goes up to when you do eat a bunch of starch. No-one would know
today that I'm diabetic if I didn't tell them, since I low-carb and thus
keep my numbers in check. But I find it very helpful to know that I am
diabetic so I'll know to keep an eye on what I need to.

Priscilla

tia said:

i was told something like that by the doctor, but from what im reading here
folks are saying something else. im going to see what help i can get to get
a proper diagnosis.

A lot of people don't look at hypoglycemia as a true disorder. After
all *anyone* can have a low blood sugar crash if they don't eat enough.
The question is how often you have lows or crashes and how severe they
are. Also pay attention if you have any symptoms such as extreme
fatigue, depressions, nightmares, even hallucinations. I had all of
these at my worst point, and once I fixed my eating, I slowly got better.

I am concerned about that high you had though...

Christy