On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:08:54 -0600, zxcvbob <[email hidden]>
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Sharon and Ernest in Florida said:
I DO NOT MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT I AM LEGALLY BLIND AND HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS TO SEE IT. SO NOT ALL OF US DO IT TO BE RUDE SOME JUST HAVE TO
Try typing in mixed case using a very large font. I think you will find it's easier for you to read. You should be able to set your newsreader to display plain text in any size you want, making it easier to read people's replies as well as your own typing.
Best regards, Bob
i can't believe how many people want her to alter her methods for their own preferences of readability. as to how she gets her responses, presumably she's got that worked out.
I DO NOT MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT I AM LEGALLY BLIND AND HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS TO SEE IT. SO NOT ALL OF US DO IT TO BE RUDE SOME JUST HAVE TO
Try typing in mixed case using a very large font. I think you will find it's easier for you to read. You should be able to set your newsreader to display plain text in any size you want, making it easier to read people's replies as well as your own typing.
Best regards, Bob
i can't believe how many people want her to alter her methods for their own preferences of readability. as to how she gets her responses, presumably she's got that worked out.
your pal, blake
I don't care if she alters her methods or not. I was suggesting a way she might not have tried yet.
Offering unsolicited advice is a character flaw of mine.
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:02:33 GMT, blake murphy <[email hidden]>
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i can't believe how many people want her to alter her methods for their own preferences of readability. as to how she gets her responses, presumably she's got that worked out.
Well, the usual response to an all-caps posting is a polite reminder that it's considered rude and looks like shouting. I don't think many wanted to *convert* the OP as to question exactly *why* all- caps were the only way she (he?) could communicate. We came up with many points of discussion and the OP never returned. Has he/she an audible reader for newsgroups? (Good golly -- wonder how they translate some signatures! Not to mention misspellings.) This *can't* be the first time for the poster that the all-caps flag has been raised. "I'm handicapped; I can only type in all caps" seems to require explication. Now Archie the cockroach could only use lower case for a clearly explained reason. I accepted *that* at once. It was a little harder to read, but the prose was well worth the effort. :-)
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:08:54 -0600, zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Try typing in mixed case using a very large font. I think you will find it's easier for you to read. You should be able to set your newsreader to display plain text in any size you want, making it easier to read people's replies as well as your own typing.
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i can't believe how many people want her to alter her methods for their own preferences of readability. as to how she gets her responses, presumably she's got that worked out.
She's having a problem. People are trying to help her. The messages are all sent out using plain text. The font size can be adjusted by each person (unless they have a dumb terminal) for their own preferences. I don't see all that well myself, but I get close to the screen and wear magnifying glasses so I use 9 point Monaco and it works fine for me.
-- Dan Abel Sonoma State University AIS [email hidden]
i can't believe how many people want her to alter her methods for their own preferences of readability. as to how she gets her responses, presumably she's got that worked out.
Hey, all I did was ask the obvious question. I was just curious.
i can't believe how many people want her to alter her methods for their own preferences of readability. as to how she gets her responses, presumably she's got that worked out.
Well, the usual response to an all-caps posting is a polite reminder that it's considered rude and looks like shouting. I don't think many wanted to *convert* the OP as to question exactly *why* all- caps were the only way she (he?) could communicate. We came up with many points of discussion and the OP never returned. Has he/she an audible reader for newsgroups? (Good golly -- wonder how they translate some signatures! Not to mention misspellings.) This *can't* be the first time for the poster that the all-caps flag has been raised. "I'm handicapped; I can only type in all caps" seems to require explication. Now Archie the cockroach could only use lower case for a clearly explained reason. I accepted *that* at once. It was a little harder to read, but the prose was well worth the effort. :-)
there was a blind participant in an e-mail list i'm on, and, yes, she had software that would try to render the typewritten words to speech. i regret to say that not many people did much to accommodate her, but she held her own.
Julia Altshuler saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us all about it on Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:46:18 GMT:
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I've known a few blind people over the course of my life. Their typing has been perfect including capitals, lower case, punctuation, the works. Since a computer designed for the blind can make the typeface any size, I don't understand how all caps could be easier. (I believe what you say; I'm just trying to puzzle this out.) Special computers can also raise dots in a way for reading Braille. Still, the bottom line is that no one has to read anything they don't want to. I can't stand
And I've known several visually impaired people who are NOT totally blind but have very poor vision and they find the all-caps a lot easier to read. One person could only handwrite in large capital letters... so it's not hard to imagine somebody who is used to the caps using them on the keyboard. Of course, somebody who is computer-literate and sight-impaired knows that you can fiddle with the settings of your monitor to make it display in extra-large... but not everyone IS computer- literate. You don't have to be a genius to use a computer... I think it's all a question of what you're used to.
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I believe that there is serious refereed published research which indicates that, at least for normally sighted people, mixed case is easier to read because the ascenders and descenders create a kind of envelope that helps the reader predict what a word will be before he actually focuses on it. Similarly, text printed with a ragged right margin is easier to read than right justified text.
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I don't disagree with anything that anyone has said here to either prove or rationalize that mixed case is easier to read. That said, however, only the OP knows what she can read and work with best.
Wayne
Yes, of course you're correct. When I posted that I hadn't read the original posting. I also limited my remarks to "normally sighted people."
In article <_9ZTb.171552$5V2.871203@attbi_s53>, Julia Altshuler
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Nancy Young said:
No, I understand that, Dan. My point was, how are they able to read what we write, yet are unable to read their own typing unless it is in caps.
Nancy has a good point, which I didn't understand at first. Still, perhaps her typing in upper case does help her, and we're just missing the rest of the story.
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This was my point as well. If you can learn to touch type, you can learn to touch type caps and lower case appropriately. If you can read answers with both, you can type with both and read what you've written. Software that helps people who have no vision or low vision exists and isn't that hard to find. Has anyone noticed that the
But can it be installed in a WebTV box? I doubt it.
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original poster dropped out long ago? I'd love to have the answers from the one person who can explain the mystery.
That's very true. We just don't know the story.
-- Dan Abel Sonoma State University AIS [email hidden]
