Diabetes question - Halle Berry

"nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry, who is
in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I don't

understand

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it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously isn't in

her

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case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

Keeping in shape helps control the diabetes. Works for both Type 1 and Type
2.

BJ

nimue wrote:
|| I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
|| Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry,
|| who is in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I
|| don't understand it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but
|| it obviously isn't in her case. What makes it happen? Is it an
|| unavoidable genetic legacy?

Have you ever heard of type 1 and type 2?

Hi,

nimue said:

I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry
film
Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry,
who is
in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I don't
understand
it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously isn't
in her
case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

Halle Berry is a Type I. Her body took out its own beta cells so she
can't make enough insulin anymore. It's an autoimmune thing.

Take care,
Carmen

Roger Zoul said:

nimue said:

Quoted message said:

I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry
film Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle
Berry, who is in absolutely perfect physical condition, have
diabetes? I don't understand it. I thought diabetes was linked to
weight, but it obviously isn't in her case. What makes it happen?
Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

Have you ever heard of type 1 and type 2?

To be honest, I haven't really paid that much attention to it, although it
runs in my dad's family. I have heard of juvenile diabetes and adult onset.
I heard that juvenile was far deadlier.
--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

nimue wrote:
| I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
| Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry,
| who is in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I
| don't understand it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it
| obviously isn't in her case. What makes it happen? Is it an
| unavoidable genetic legacy?

Halle Berry is T2 diabetic, and controls it through diet, exercise, stress
management and insulin -- as all we T2's could if we were dedicated enough.
Here is a short exerpt from www.diabetesmovies.com:

"While filming Living Dolls, Berry collapsed, having entered a diabetes
coma. Her doctors noted that stress probably caused the disease to manifest
itself early in her life rather than in her later years. Although doctors
told her that she would be insulin-dependent the rest of her life, she has
improved her health through diet, exercise, meditation, and low-stress
activities."
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

Hi,

marengo said:

Halle Berry is T2 diabetic, and controls it through diet, exercise,
stress management and insulin -- as all we T2's could if we were
dedicated
enough.

<http://www.angelarose.com/FamousDiabetics/Fam-actors.htm>
<http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/entertainment/gossip/8267378.htm>
<http://www.hallemedia.com/profile/stats.html>

They need to decide what type she's got, huh? <G>

Take care,
Carmen

Yes, I've heard conflicting accounts too. Maybe they get their info from
the ADA. LOL

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Carmen wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

They need to decide what type she's got, huh? <G>

Take care,
Carmen

Carmen wrote:
| Hi,
|
| On 23-Jul-2004, "marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| Halle Berry is T2 diabetic, and controls it through diet, exercise,
|| stress management and insulin -- as all we T2's could if we were
|| dedicated
|| enough.
|
| <http://www.angelarose.com/FamousDiabetics/Fam-actors.htm>
|
<http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/entertainment/gossip
/8267378.htm>
| <http://www.hallemedia.com/profile/stats.html>
|
| They need to decide what type she's got, huh? <G>
|
| Take care,
| Carmen

Well, Halle Berry should know. These are her own words in an interview with
USA Today:

"Once you're a diabetic, you're pretty much a diabetic," says Berry. "I have
adult onset diabetes. I was diagnosed when I passed out one day. I've gotten
my diabetes to a really manageable place. So I don't have really any
complications due to it, but I still have to deal with it and check my blood
many times a day."
Adult onset or type 2 diabetes, usually presents after the age of 13.
Individuals with this form of diabetes have a pancreas that still produces
insulin, though not adequately. They also have "insulin resistance," which
means that the body's tissues do not respond normally to insulin. But
patients with type 2 diabetes can often control the disease through diet,
exercise, and oral medications rather than by the use of insulin
injections."

Apparently her diabetes unfortunately went undiagnosed for too long; she had
lost too many beta cells as a result and now requires insulin.

Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

Hi,

marengo said:

Carmen wrote:
| Hi,
|
| On 23-Jul-2004, "marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| Halle Berry is T2 diabetic, and controls it through diet,
exercise,
|| stress management and insulin -- as all we T2's could if we were
|| dedicated
|| enough.
|
| <http://www.angelarose.com/FamousDiabetics/Fam-actors.htm>
|
<http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/entertainment/gossip
/8267378.htm>
| <http://www.hallemedia.com/profile/stats.html>
|
| They need to decide what type she's got, huh? <G>
|
| Take care,
| Carmen

Well, Halle Berry should know. These are her own words in an
interview with
USA Today:

"Once you're a diabetic, you're pretty much a diabetic," says Berry.
"I have adult onset diabetes. I was diagnosed when I passed out one
day.
I've gotten my diabetes to a really manageable place. So I don't
have really any
complications due to it, but I still have to deal with it and check
my blood many times a day."
Adult onset or type 2 diabetes, usually presents after the age of
13. Individuals with this form of diabetes have a pancreas that
still
produces insulin, though not adequately. They also have "insulin
resistance,"
which means that the body's tissues do not respond normally to
insulin.
But patients with type 2 diabetes can often control the disease
through
diet, exercise, and oral medications rather than by the use of
insulin
injections."

Peter, Type 2 usually shows up earlier, but a Type 1 can have its
onset in adulthood. "Adult onset" can happen with either sort.
That's why it isn't clear what type she has. The key to typing isn't
when it is diagnosed, but what its genesis is.

Take care,
Carmen

"nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry, who is
in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I don't
understand
it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously isn't in
her
case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

yes, diabetes can be genetic. it's also more common in some ethnic groups
than others. no, being overweight does not automatically mean you're
diabetic, and being diabetic doesn't make you overweight.

i have a friend who is insulin dependant, and he's 6'1" and probably weighs
under 165. he eats like a normal 20 something guy, then pulls out his
glucose meter and his kit.

i'm so sick of these stereotypes that insist that fat = unhealthy, or
unhealthy = fat. have you seen the lipitor commercials lately? the ones
with the "normal" folks, at good weight, in good shape, who *still* have
high blood pressure?
it's kind of like that. some folks are just more prone to certain disorders
than others, regardless of their weight.

-kelly (fat and healthy)
BMI 29.1
FBG 80
BP 110/70
HDL 60
LDL 80
TriG 130

It could be a case of carb poisoning.

"nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry, who is
in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I don't

understand

Quoted message said:

it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously isn't in

her

Quoted message said:

case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence,
but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

nimue said:

I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry, who is
in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I don't understand
it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously isn't in her
case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

My close friend is as skinny as they come, and has been diabetic since
childhood.

The adult onset diabetes (type 2?) is the one where being overweight is
linked.

metta wrote:
|| "nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry
||| film Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle
||| Berry, who is in absolutely perfect physical condition, have
||| diabetes? I don't understand
||| it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously
||| isn't in her
||| case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?
||
|| yes, diabetes can be genetic. it's also more common in some ethnic
|| groups than others. no, being overweight does not automatically
|| mean you're diabetic, and being diabetic doesn't make you overweight.
||
|| i have a friend who is insulin dependant, and he's 6'1" and probably
|| weighs under 165. he eats like a normal 20 something guy, then
|| pulls out his glucose meter and his kit.
||
|| i'm so sick of these stereotypes that insist that fat = unhealthy, or
|| unhealthy = fat. have you seen the lipitor commercials lately? the
|| ones with the "normal" folks, at good weight, in good shape, who
|| *still* have high blood pressure?
|| it's kind of like that. some folks are just more prone to certain
|| disorders than others, regardless of their weight.

Thank you, kelly, for saying this. i'm always the one who seems to have to
keep harping on this very point. Even though it is often true that being
too overweight bring on health problems, it is not a given that
fat=unhealthy.

||
|| -kelly (fat and healthy)
|| BMI 29.1
|| FBG 80
|| BP 110/70
|| HDL 60
|| LDL 80
|| TriG 130

Crafting Mom wrote:
|| nimue <[email hidden]> wrote:
||| I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry
||| film Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle
||| Berry, who is in absolutely perfect physical condition, have
||| diabetes? I don't understand it. I thought diabetes was linked to
||| weight, but it obviously isn't in her case. What makes it happen?
||| Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?
||
|| My close friend is as skinny as they come, and has been diabetic
|| since childhood.
||
|| The adult onset diabetes (type 2?) is the one where being overweight
|| is linked.

Mostly, yes. But not always.

Quoted message said:

To be honest, I haven't really paid that much attention to it, although it
runs in my dad's family. I have heard of juvenile diabetes and adult onset.

Thats a pretty much outdated way to say Type 1 and Type 2. Juvenile is Type 1
and adult onset is type 2. Its my feeling that because especially with humans
there are excpetions to every rule using the terms type 1 and type 2 are much
more accurate.

You can have type 2 and be of a normal weight, too. It is genetic.

While 80% of people diagnosed with type 2 are overweight, 20% of them are
not. And there's some evidence that thew weight comes on after blood sugar
control has started to deteriorate and is a result, not the cause of the
diabetes.

I was recently reading in a medical book published in 1919 which made the
point that in the "diabetes of adulthood" the first symptom was weight gain
and that the medical treatment was to avoid eating starch.

It is only because people aren't diagnosed for many years after their blood
sugar control has deteriorated, when their diabetes has become quite severe
and their fasting blood sugar extremely high that doctors now believe that
diabetes is caused by obesity. In fact, the research shows that the majority
of the obese do NOT become diabetic since their pancreases have the ability
to grow new insulin-producing cells.

Researchers have also found that if you give tests of pancreas beta cell
function to people of normal weight or underweight who have diabetic
relatives you discover that their insulin production and mitochondrial
function are already impaired.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

"nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I guess all the commercials (and panning) of the new Halle Berry film
Catwoman have got me thinking -- how can someone like Halle Berry, who is
in absolutely perfect physical condition, have diabetes? I don't

understand

Quoted message said:

it. I thought diabetes was linked to weight, but it obviously isn't in

her

Quoted message said:

case. What makes it happen? Is it an unavoidable genetic legacy?

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence,
but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon