Derbyshire walk advice sought...

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Also, what map(s) would be the best for walking in the Peak District?
From old familiarity I'm tending to favour buying the 119 Landranger,
but if anyone really thinks the 1:25000 series are better I'd be
interested to hear why!

In the White Peak.. get the 1:25k. It shows field boundaries.
Knowing which side of a dyke a footpath runs is a welcome help.

Richard Webb

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RJ Webb <[email hidden]> said

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Quoted message said:

Also, what map(s) would be the best for walking in the Peak District?
From old familiarity I'm tending to favour buying the 119 Landranger,
but if anyone really thinks the 1:25000 series are better I'd be
interested to hear why!

In the White Peak.. get the 1:25k. It shows field boundaries.
Knowing which side of a dyke a footpath runs is a welcome help.

I'd agree with that, except right now I'm auditing footpaths in
Shropshire (using the 1:10k definitive maps) and it's apparent that the
OS is quite capable of moving the CC's data over by a few pixels, and
thus showing the wrong answer, field-boundary-wise. Not often, but maybe
5% of the time. 8<,

Actually the best answer is probably to buy 1:25k digital data, and then
print the bits you want on your PC at whatever scale seems good at the
time. Some 1p plastic sleeves to keep the water off, and you're in
business, assuming you have a colour printer. Maybe my eyes are just
getting old, but even 1:25k doesn't seem very good without a magnifier
sometimes.

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Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

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Hi all,

Looking to do a walk in the Peak District sometime this weekend, but
it's been ages since I went up there....

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I did find this route online:

http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walks2/w195.shtml

Yep, do it and go to Alstonefield or nearby for a nice pub lunch. Dovedale
should be quiet this time of year.
A walk I did a few years back went from Ilam Hall following the Manifold and
up to Castern Hall. Headed northwards from there along paths and then a
short road bit to the junction at SK128549, a beautiful cottage is near
there and then up the hill to the pub in Alstonefield. After that nice meal
it was a quick glance at the church and down a very steep hill to Milldale
and along Dovedale back to Ilam.

Get the 1:25000 map for the detail and consider a diversion to a decent pub,
there's only a cottage door shop in Milldale that sells hot drinks and
pasties (but nice ones).

Have a good walk, it's one of my favourite areas,
Nick

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I did find this route online:

http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walks2/w195.shtml

Yep, do it and go to Alstonefield or nearby for a nice pub lunch. Dovedale
should be quiet this time of year.

Actually, I walked along there this summer. It's heaving up to the
stepping stones but gets a lot quieter the further you go.

Incidentally, if the OP fancies some company this weekend, let me know.
I love walking round there.

--
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
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My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
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Jim Millen wrote

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Looking to do a walk in the Peak District sometime this weekend, but
it's been ages since I went up there and have forgotten any trails I
might have known. Can anyone recommend anything that is between 6 -
10 miles, not too strenuous, and has somewhere half decent to stop for
lunch? If it was more towards the south east corner of the District
that would be ideal as I'll be coming from Loughborough and don't
really want to drive more that 45 - 60 minutes.

For a genuinely SE corner experience, one in which you are highly
unlikely to encounter many walkers AND have lots of good pubs to
choose from for lunch you could try the Amber Valley, which IME is
always quiet. It doesn't quite have the drama or bleakness of some of
the areas deeper into the peaks but its still lovely walking nonetheless.
Very easy access from M1 J28. Ashover has very acceptable eating
establishments.

Chris

On 9/11/04 10:02 pm, in article [email hidden],

Jim Millen said:

Hi all,

Looking to do a walk in the Peak District sometime this weekend, but
it's been ages since I went up there and have forgotten any trails I
might have known. Can anyone recommend anything that is between 6 -
10 miles, not too strenuous, and has somewhere half decent to stop for
lunch? If it was more towards the south east corner of the District
that would be ideal as I'll be coming from Loughborough and don't
really want to drive more that 45 - 60 minutes.

Get hold of the new Collins/Rambers Association guide for the Peaks which
uses very clear Harvey's maps. Lots of walks in here will meet your
requirements!

--
Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person
RJ Webb <[email hidden]> said

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Also, what map(s) would be the best for walking in the Peak District?
From old familiarity I'm tending to favour buying the 119 Landranger,
but if anyone really thinks the 1:25000 series are better I'd be
interested to hear why!

In the White Peak.. get the 1:25k. It shows field boundaries.
Knowing which side of a dyke a footpath runs is a welcome help.

I'd agree with that, except right now I'm auditing footpaths in
Shropshire (using the 1:10k definitive maps) and it's apparent that the
OS is quite capable of moving the CC's data over by a few pixels, and
thus showing the wrong answer, field-boundary-wise. Not often, but maybe
5% of the time. 8<,

Actually the best answer is probably to buy 1:25k digital data, and then
print the bits you want on your PC at whatever scale seems good at the
time. Some 1p plastic sleeves to keep the water off, and you're in
business, assuming you have a colour printer. Maybe my eyes are just
getting old, but even 1:25k doesn't seem very good without a magnifier
sometimes.

--
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Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

Slightly OT can you give me a link as to where you get your 1:25k digital
data and what does it cost?

Thanks
Ted Ferenc. (http://www.ndrw.co.uk)
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Jim Millen wrote

Quoted message said:

Looking to do a walk in the Peak District sometime this weekend, but
it's been ages since I went up there and have forgotten any trails I
might have known. Can anyone recommend anything that is between 6 -
10 miles, not too strenuous, and has somewhere half decent to stop for
lunch? If it was more towards the south east corner of the District
that would be ideal as I'll be coming from Loughborough and don't
really want to drive more that 45 - 60 minutes.

For a genuinely SE corner experience, one in which you are highly
unlikely to encounter many walkers AND have lots of good pubs to
choose from for lunch you could try the Amber Valley, which IME is
always quiet. It doesn't quite have the drama or bleakness of some of
the areas deeper into the peaks but its still lovely walking nonetheless.
Very easy access from M1 J28. Ashover has very acceptable eating
establishments.

Chris

This is one that is interesting, and it goes past the odd pub! Cromford
canal and Alderwasley

http://www.geocities.com/steviestoat/cromford.html

Ted Ferenc. (http://www.ndrw.co.uk)
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This is one that is interesting, and it goes past the odd pub! Cromford
canal and Alderwasley

The only pub on that route that I would go out of my way to get to is
The Bear at Alderwasley, which on his sketch map is the PH near 'The
Fishpools', lower left. You have to book, however, but it is very good.
The towpath is fine but if you don't like traffic noise its a real drag as
it follows the A6 (inevitably). Just off his map, to the north is Lea and
Holloway, which offer good walking too, much quieter than this
route.

Chris

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Slightly OT can you give me a link as to where you get your 1:25k digital
data and what does it cost?

I used www.tracklogs.co.uk, since they had 1:25k digital data for
'everywhere', whereas some of the other players only had national parks
etc. As to what it costs .. depends how much you buy. I usually go with
the 'site centred', for chunks of 20*20Km up to 40*40km .. the latter
being cheaper (per km**2) than the smaller areas.

You can buy the standard OS map sheets, if you prefer, but I can tile
the site centred chunks to get the areas I want a bit cheaper. The
tracklogs software is pretty acceptable too (free download demo
available).

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Actually the best answer is probably to buy 1:25k digital data, and then
print the bits you want on your PC at whatever scale seems good at the
time. Some 1p plastic sleeves to keep the water off, and you're in
business, assuming you have a colour printer. Maybe my eyes are just
getting old, but even 1:25k doesn't seem very good without a magnifier
sometimes.

I have that trouble with 1:25000 as well. Laminating the map seems to go
at least some way to solving it but I have yet to try it on a really
nasty mess like the Snowdon Horseshoe which I would have to scan first
anyway.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 89 summits
New - 61 (Marilyns 14, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 49)
Repeats - 28 (Marilyns 11, Sweats 21, Wainwrights 16, Outlying Fells 1)

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Ted Ferenc wrote

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This is one that is interesting, and it goes past the odd pub! Cromford
canal and Alderwasley

The only pub on that route that I would go out of my way to get to is
The Bear at Alderwasley, which on his sketch map is the PH near 'The
Fishpools', lower left. You have to book, however, but it is very good.
The towpath is fine but if you don't like traffic noise its a real drag as
it follows the A6 (inevitably). Just off his map, to the north is Lea and
Holloway, which offer good walking too, much quieter than this
route.

Chris

I would agree, but the canal path is interesting and mostly you are away
from the road, but it is easy and I had a web site link for it. As you say
there are some very nice walks around there. I assuee you mean the pub at
SK313526, next to Ridge Wood? If not I would recomend that one, it has
character!

Ted Ferenc.

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person Ted
Ferenc <[email hidden]> said
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Quoted message said:

Slightly OT can you give me a link as to where you get your 1:25k digital
data and what does it cost?

I used www.tracklogs.co.uk, since they had 1:25k digital data for
'everywhere', whereas some of the other players only had national parks
etc. As to what it costs .. depends how much you buy. I usually go with
the 'site centred', for chunks of 20*20Km up to 40*40km .. the latter
being cheaper (per km**2) than the smaller areas.

You can buy the standard OS map sheets, if you prefer, but I can tile
the site centred chunks to get the areas I want a bit cheaper. The
tracklogs software is pretty acceptable too (free download demo
available).

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

Thanks I will check it out, I was thinking of resurecting a GIS package I
wrote in 1994 on Windows 3.1, I stopped developing it because digital maps
were too expensive at the time

Td Ferenc

Ted Ferenc wrote

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there are some very nice walks around there. I assume you mean the pub at
SK313526, next to Ridge Wood?

That's the one. The Bear. Book ahead if eating.

Chris

On 10/11/04 4:46 pm, in article [email hidden],

Roger said:

I have that trouble with 1:25000 as well. Laminating the map seems to go
at least some way to solving it but I have yet to try it on a really
nasty mess like the Snowdon Horseshoe which I would have to scan first
anyway.

Buy a map and then cut it in two. Cellotape the ends that have been cut.
You then have two manageable sized maps. Makes a big difference.

--
Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

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Hi all,

Looking to do a walk in the Peak District sometime this weekend, but
it's been ages since I went up there and have forgotten any trails I
might have known. Can anyone recommend anything that is between 6 -
10 miles, not too strenuous, and has somewhere half decent to stop for
lunch? If it was more towards the south east corner of the District
that would be ideal as I'll be coming from Loughborough and don't
really want to drive more that 45 - 60 minutes.

Certainly better to do Dovedale now than in Summer !

I used to frequent the peaks when I was young and lived in Sheffield.
Now I also live near Loughborough and also have difficulties remembering
the walks.

I find that the edges (Froggat / Burbar) are good because they are so
different than we have here in NW Leics, and can be quite accessible (for
the length of walk you describe).
Enjoy yourself.

--
John Owens

Fax 44 1509 89 08 22
www.GoodViews.co.uk

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I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Nick
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Quoted message said:

I did find this route online:

http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walks2/w195.shtml

Yep, do it and go to Alstonefield or nearby for a nice pub lunch. Dovedale
should be quiet this time of year.

Actually, I walked along there this summer. It's heaving up to the
stepping stones but gets a lot quieter the further you go.

Incidentally, if the OP fancies some company this weekend, let me know.
I love walking round there.

Geoff - we're probably going to be around peak District somewhere Sat &
possibly Sun. Drop me a mail if you fancy joining us (do the obvious
name swap to avoid the spamtrap.) Not sure of routes yet as only just
changed plans from Wales, but the above looks OK.

--
Darren

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I have that trouble with 1:25000 as well. Laminating the map seems to go
at least some way to solving it but I have yet to try it on a really
nasty mess like the Snowdon Horseshoe which I would have to scan first
anyway.

on last circuit of the Horseshoe I used laminated A4 prints from
tracklogs without any problem. Must be the old peepers going!

(thought that route is so worn anyway that a map is *almost*
superfluous)

--
Darren

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I have that trouble with 1:25000 as well. Laminating the map seems to go
at least some way to solving it but I have yet to try it on a really
nasty mess like the Snowdon Horseshoe which I would have to scan first
anyway.

Quoted message said:

on last circuit of the Horseshoe I used laminated A4 prints from
tracklogs without any problem. Must be the old peepers going!

I only have the paper version which seems to me to be an over ornamented
mess particularly when compared to the clarity of the 1st Series survey.

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(thought that route is so worn anyway that a map is *almost*
superfluous)

On my last circuit of the Horseshoe back in the mid 70s my 1" stayed in
my pocket the whole time and even now I am confident I could get from
Pen-y-pass as far as the top of Snowdon by any of the 3 routes in
anything short of pitch black without the use of any navigational aids.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 89 summits
New - 61 (Marilyns 14, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 49)
Repeats - 28 (Marilyns 11, Sweats 21, Wainwrights 16, Outlying Fells 1)