derailleur and speed question

jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for
8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed? I did
buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at
rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9
speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything
works fine.

Well then, you already know the answer. You can thank the
shop when or if you upgrade to 9 speed.

--
Slacker

jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for
8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed? I did
buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at
rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9
speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything
works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable
with each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.
--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

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jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is
for 8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put
XT at rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750
which is 9 speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so
because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are
interchangeable with each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both
road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe 7
sp too are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Shaun aRe

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jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is
for 8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put
XT at rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750
which is 9 speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so
because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are
interchangeable with each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both
road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe
7 sp too are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is
absolutely correct, since we are discussing derailleurs. So
are you in a way, but you're answering a different question.
Plus you seem a little confused today. I didn't know that
the wheels were any wider, I just thought it was the cogs on
the cassette 😉
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jazu wrote:
> Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is
> for 8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly
> followed? I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but
> I ask to put XT at rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy
> put me M750 which is 9 speed. Was he wrong?. I don't
> think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are
interchangeable with each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds,
both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and
maybe 7 sp too are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is
absolutely correct, since we are discussing derailleurs.
So are you in a way, but you're answering a different
question. Plus you seem a little confused today. I didn't
know that the wheels were any wider, I just thought it was
the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to
accommodate said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend
to fall off the jockey and jam between it and the cage
plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

Shaun aRe

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Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is
absolutely correct, since we are discussing derailleurs.
So are you in a way, but you're answering a different
question. Plus you seem a little confused today. I didn't
know that the wheels were any wider, I just thought it
was the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to
accommodate said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will
tend to fall off the jockey and jam between it and the
cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

You didn't say jockey wheels. You said wheels which I
normally call the big things with tires on them 😉 Plus the
discussion is still about derailleurs so wheel size has
nothing to do with it. You really mean you have to live with
yourself in that state everyday. Wow.

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Perre

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jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is
for 8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put
XT at rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750
which is 9 speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so
because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are
interchangeable with each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both
road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe
7 sp too are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Hey Shaun... I of course covered my ass with the "almost
all" phrasing 😉 Most people wouldn't try the 6, 7 der on
9sp and would probably opt to go the other way around... 8
or 9 sp on a 6 or 7 sp.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

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Quoted message said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for
8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed? I did
buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at
rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9
speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything
works fine.

Yeah, he was wrong. You should be riding a singlespeed.

JD

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Quoted message said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is
for 8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed? I
did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT
at rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which
is 9 speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so because
everything works fine.

Yeah, he was wrong. You should be riding a singlespeed.

Nice,

Bill "gears" S.

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Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything
works fine.

Yeah, he was wrong. You should be riding a singlespeed.

You know KMA. WTF your problem is?

Wrong but it will work. I have a 8 speed XT I put on my
K2 / Proflex 2000. When you get the cash you will only need
9 speed shifters and a 9 speed chain.

I MTB 2004

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jazu wrote:
> Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is
> for 8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly
> followed? I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but
> I ask to put XT at rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy
> put me M750 which is 9 speed. Was he wrong?. I don't
> think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are
interchangeable with each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds,
both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and
maybe 7 sp too are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Hey Shaun... I of course covered my ass with the "almost
all" phrasing 😉 Most people wouldn't try the 6, 7 der on
9sp and would probably opt to go the other way around... 8
or 9 sp on a 6 or 7 sp.

Wide (6/7) chain + narrow cage (8/9) mech = nope!

',;~}~

Shaun aRe - IME at least!

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Shaun Rimmer said:

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Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is
absolutely correct, since we are discussing
derailleurs. So are you in a way, but you're answering
a different question. Plus you seem a little confused
today. I didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I
just thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to
accommodate said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will
tend to fall off the jockey and jam between it and the
cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!? Heh...

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You said wheels which I normally call the big things with
tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

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Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

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so wheel size has nothing to do with it. You really mean
you have to live with yourself in that state everyday.

Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever
have had or will have, obviously!

',;~}~

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Wrong but it will work. I have a 8 speed
XT I put on my
K2 / Proflex 2000. When you get the cash you will only
need 9 speed shifters and a 9 speed chain.

But won't nine speed shifters cause a lot of noise on his
eight speed cassette?

Dave

jazu' nospam said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for
8 or 9 speed. Does it have to be strictly followed? I did
buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at
rear. Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9
speed. Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything
works fine.

zzzz,zzzz,ss,ss,ss,

Bill The mind serves properly as a window glass rather than
as a reflector, that is, the mind should give an immediate
view instead of an interpretation of the world.
:-]

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Shaun Rimmer said:

> Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is
> absolutely correct, since we are discussing
> derailleurs. So are you in a way, but you're answering
> a different question. Plus you seem a little confused
> today. I didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I
> just thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to
accommodate said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will
tend to fall off the jockey and jam between it and the
cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!? Heh...

Quoted message said:

You said wheels which I normally call the big things with
tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

Quoted message said:

Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

Oops!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so wheel size has nothing to do with it. You really
mean you have to live with yourself in that state
everyday. Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever
have had or will have, obviously!

See what you've done to me. I knew I should never have read
your post.

--
Perre
"Now let's see where is that bike I was planning to go out on"

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Shaun Rimmer wrote:
>> Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He
>> is absolutely correct, since we are discussing
>> derailleurs. So are you in a way, but you're
>> answering a different question. Plus you seem a
>> little confused today. I didn't know that the wheels
>> were any wider, I just thought it was the cogs on the
>> cassette 😉
>
> Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to
> accommodate said and the wider chain. Narrow chain
> will tend to fall off the jockey and jam between it
> and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!
>
>
> Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~
>

You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!?
Heh...

Quoted message said:

You said wheels which I normally call the big things
with tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

Quoted message said:

Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

Oops!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so wheel size has nothing to do with it. You really
mean you have to live with yourself in that state
everyday. Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever
have had or will have, obviously!

See what you've done to me. I knew I should never have
read your post.

It's amazing how confused others become in the face of my
ultimately superior clarity of mind ',;~}~

Shaun aRe

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Shaun Rimmer said:

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> Shaun Rimmer wrote:
>>> Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He
>>> is absolutely correct, since we are discussing
>>> derailleurs. So are you in a way, but you're
>>> answering a different question. Plus you seem a
>>> little confused today. I didn't know that the wheels
>>> were any wider, I just thought it was the cogs on the
>>> cassette 😉
>>
>> Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to
>> accommodate said and the wider chain. Narrow chain
>> will tend to fall off the jockey and jam between it
>> and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!
>>
>>
>> Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~
>>
>
> You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!?
Heh...

> You said wheels which I normally call the big things
> with tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

> Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

Oops!!

Quoted message said:

> so wheel size has nothing to do with it. You really
> mean you have to live with yourself in that state
> everyday. Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever
have had or will have, obviously!

See what you've done to me. I knew I should never have
read your post.

It's amazing how confused others become in the face of my
ultimately superior clarity of mind ',;~}~

Finally. I found my bike. Now if I don't lose it again I'll
be off to do a 2 day mountain trip in Norway. On the
roadbike this time, but I will keep my eyes open for offroad
opportunities of which there are plenty I know. telemark-tours.notelemarkOpen ↗
tours/index_eng.htm

--
Perre
"Hope the mountain air will clear up my head a bit. At least the sinuses"