Deer Valley - UTAH

Matthew Paterson said:

Does anyone have any info on Deer Valey in Utah? Ive heard there can
be some good singletrack there.

Although they try to suppress it, I imagine word has leaked out on that
Internet thing.

Bill "you might try that" S.

Matthew Paterson said:

Does anyone have any info on Deer Valey in Utah? Ive heard there can
be some good singletrack there.

Did you look up Deer Valley ski area in a search engine? That would be the
obvious thing to do. Though I can't imagine a ski area that doen'st allow
snowboards to allow mountain biking...

Penny S

Matthew Paterson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Does anyone have any info on Deer Valey in Utah? Ive heard there can be
some good singletrack there.

It's a joke. Impaired views, weak beer and the mormonic plague makes
for a dull experience.

JD

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It's a joke. Impaired views, weak beer and the mormonic plague makes
for a dull experience.

Does that go for all of Utah?

Per
http://lowdin.nu

From: "Per Löwdin" <[email hidden]>

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JD said:

It's a joke. Impaired views, weak beer and the mormonic plague

makes

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for a dull experience.

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Does that go for all of Utah?

The second two factors do for the most part. Riding in the Park City
area yields some decent trails as far as the terrain goes, but
everywhere you look from up high yields masses of (in)humanity.
You're either looking at ski lifts, Heber City, Park City (and the
mormonic McMansions that surround it) or the SLC Metro. Add that with
crappy beer and the plague and it doesn't really matter, it'll suck.
You may as well be riding the SJT in SJC and having good beer
afterwards.

You can escape the plague in certain places and BYOB, so it does not
go for all of Utah. I'll post pics from my pending "weekend" in a
remote corner that yields wild and uncrowded high country trails when
I return next week. GT will be interested in the outcome.

JD

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crappy beer and the plague and it doesn't really matter, it'll suck.

Can one bring one´s own supply of beer, or is that a felony? If the trails
are good and one has one´s own beer the plague will merely be an exotic
spice.

Per
http://lowdin

Per Löwdin said:

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crappy beer and the plague and it doesn't really matter, it'll suck.

Can one bring one´s own supply of beer, or is that a felony? If the trails
are good and one has one´s own beer the plague will merely be an exotic
spice.

Per
http://lowdin

I don't know the legal issues, but it is sort of expected in Utah. we
always bring our own. No one is going to care, unless you are caught
drinking it while driving around, which is a problem anywhere in the US.
I believe that all the beer is 3.2%. Sucks!

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
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Matthew Paterson said:

S o r n i said:

Although they try to suppress it, I imagine word has leaked out on
that Internet thing.

Bill "you might try that" S.

Holy [censored], I never thought to use one of the most popular search
engines ever. Of course I looked up google. I just thought that some
actual bikers on here might know any good spots. Next time Ill know
better 😉

how many good spots in Deer Valley can there? It's an uber-manicured ski
area fer chrissakes. No snowboards allowed, valet parking, EVERYTHING is
groomed... I dunno what kind of mountain biking you would expect from a
place like that. Many years ago we skied there with Mr. Adventure's parent
( their idea, not ours) and when Craig faced planted due to going too fast
on super steep groomers, they came out with shovel to cover up the little
bloodstains in the snow!!

Penny

S o r n i said:

Although they try to suppress it, I imagine word has leaked out on that
Internet thing.

Bill "you might try that" S.

Holy [censored], I never thought to use one of the most popular search engines
ever. Of course I looked up google. I just thought that some actual bikers
on here might know any good spots. Next time Ill know better 😉

--
Matt

Fear of a flat planet

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Many years ago we skied there with Mr. Adventure's parent
( their idea, not ours) and when Craig faced planted due to going too fast
on super steep groomers, they came out with shovel to cover up the little
bloodstains in the snow!!

Penny

No way! Is that really true?

--
Slacker

Slacker said:

Quoted message said:

Many years ago we skied there with Mr. Adventure's parent
( their idea, not ours) and when Craig faced planted due to going
too fast on super steep groomers, they came out with shovel to cover
up the little bloodstains in the snow!!

Penny

No way! Is that really true?

yes.

pas said:

Slacker said:

Quoted message said:

Many years ago we skied there with Mr. Adventure's parent
( their idea, not ours) and when Craig faced planted due to going
too fast on super steep groomers, they came out with shovel to cover
up the little bloodstains in the snow!!

Penny

No way! Is that really true?

yes.

I meant about them covering up the blood stains, not your hubby
F-planting it.
That part I believe ;-)

--
Slacker

"Per Löwdin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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crappy beer and the plague and it doesn't really matter, it'll suck.

Can one bring one´s own supply of beer, or is that a felony?

It's a misdemeanor in Utah to consume alchoholic beverages that have
not been taxed properly by the brigham youngsters. If a cop is not
nice (no shortage of those in UT), they can and will press the issue
and you will be cited.

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If the trails
are good and one has one´s own beer the plague will merely be an exotic
spice.

You miss the point. The point is, riding in UT can be good as long as
you escape the crowds. The Wasatch is only different from SoCal in
that the plague is prevalent, the beer weak and it's not as smoggy.
Hence, the joke comment.

JD

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It's a misdemeanor in Utah to consume alchoholic beverages that have
not been taxed properly by the brigham youngsters.

In other words if they find a couple of cases of beers or wine bought in a
civilized state in your car you are fined and the drink confiscated. I am
not talking about drunken driving, which of course is detestable, but mere
possesion of untaxed alcohol.

My wife travelled in Utah long before she met me an has some bizarre
stories. At midnight all wine glasses are emptied from wine glasses into
plastic mugs because one can´t drink wine from glass afte midnight etc, etc.

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You miss the point. The point is, riding in UT can be good as long as
you escape the crowds. The Wasatch is only different from SoCal in
that the plague is prevalent, the beer weak and it's not as smoggy.

OK: but I kind of thought a major difference is the altitude. That the best
Utah rides, Moab and other desert spots, is high and pleasantly cool in July
and August comparable to the Salida, Durango, Crested Butte etc., in fact
the riding is so good there that I can live without beer.

Per
http://lowdin.nu

Slacker said:

pas said:

Slacker said:

> Many years ago we skied there with Mr. Adventure's parent
> ( their idea, not ours) and when Craig faced planted due to going
> too fast on super steep groomers, they came out with shovel to
> cover up the little bloodstains in the snow!!
>
>
> Penny
>
>

No way! Is that really true?

yes.

I meant about them covering up the blood stains, not your hubby
F-planting it.
That part I believe ;-)

yes it's true. The whole thing.

p.

Per Löwdin said:

OK: but I kind of thought a major difference is the altitude. That the best
Utah rides, Moab and other desert spots, is high and pleasantly cool in July
and August comparable to the Salida, Durango, Crested Butte etc., in fact
the riding is so good there that I can live without beer.

Per
http://lowdin.nu

Perhaps I misunderstand Per, and I know you were in this area last
summer, but Moab is not the same temp as Salida, Durango or Crested
Butte, most anytime of the year. And even when it is, it is not the same
feel, reflection of heat from all the rock, as it were.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
(remove ".nospam" to reply)

"Per Löwdin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Quoted message said:

It's a misdemeanor in Utah to consume alchoholic beverages that have
not been taxed properly by the brigham youngsters.

In other words if they find a couple of cases of beers or wine bought in a
civilized state in your car you are fined and the drink confiscated. I am
not talking about drunken driving, which of course is detestable, but mere
possesion of untaxed alcohol.

You can posess untaxed alchohol if you are passing through. Just
don't have any empties, or be consuming.

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My wife travelled in Utah long before she met me an has some bizarre
stories. At midnight all wine glasses are emptied from wine glasses into
plastic mugs because one can´t drink wine from glass afte midnight etc, etc.

Sounds about right, bizarre.

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You miss the point. The point is, riding in UT can be good as long as
you escape the crowds. The Wasatch is only different from SoCal in
that the plague is prevalent, the beer weak and it's not as smoggy.

OK: but I kind of thought a major difference is the altitude. That the best
Utah rides, Moab and other desert spots, is high and pleasantly cool in July
and August comparable to the Salida, Durango, Crested Butte etc., in fact
the riding is so good there that I can live without beer.

Not a huge difference in altitude between the Wasatch and the San
Bernardinos or San Gabriels. The Wasatch only get a couple thou
higher at the most. Moab is not high enough to be cool even now.
There are more high spots in UT that are remote and not a crowd scene
like the Wasatch. Check your hotmail account.

JD

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OK: but I kind of thought a major difference is the altitude. That the

best

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Utah rides, [except] Moab and other desert spots, is high and pleasantly

cool in July

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and August comparable to the Salida, Durango, Crested Butte etc., in

fact

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the riding is so good there that I can live without beer.

Per
http://lowdin.nu

Perhaps I misunderstand Per, and I know you were in this area last
summer, but Moab is not the same temp as Salida, Durango or Crested
Butte, most anytime of the year. And even when it is, it is not the same
feel, reflection of heat from all the rock, as it were.

No, you don´t misunderstand, I had forgotten to insert an except.

Per
http://lowdin.nu

pas said:

Slacker said:

pas said:

Slacker wrote:

>>Many years ago we skied there with Mr. Adventure's parent
>>( their idea, not ours) and when Craig faced planted due to going
>>too fast on super steep groomers, they came out with shovel to
>>cover up the little bloodstains in the snow!!
>>
>>
>>Penny
>>
>>
>
>No way! Is that really true?

yes.

I meant about them covering up the blood stains, not your hubby
F-planting it.
That part I believe ;-)

yes it's true. The whole thing.

p.

Dang it penny... you just bust the needle on my Gullibility tachometer.
Those things aren't cheap to repair!

--
Slacker