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  1. The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty
    deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only
    about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting
    bike.

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    Ken
    --
    Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

  2. Ken C. M. said:

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs.
    Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs
    and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  3. Ken C. M. said:

    The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty
    deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only
    about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting
    bike.

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    I've crossed a stream at a ford a few times; the water was usually 6-8"
    deep. Usually had the pedals horizontal, and at least one foot
    unclipped to keep the shoe dry...

    You might want to check the lube in your bottom bracket, and re-lube
    your rear derailer and chain if they were submerged.

    Pat

  4. Mark Hickey said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs.
    Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs
    and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB).

    Oh joy! Something I should look forward to doing! Well at least my bb is
    already showing signs of wear anyway. I don't recall if that area was
    submerged but it must have been pretty close if it wasn't. And even if
    it wasn't under water I am sure some got splashed up in there. And mine
    is a sealed unit.

    Ken
    --
    Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

  5. Ken C. M. said:

    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?

    I rode through the flood waters of tropical storm Allison. It was the
    only way to leave the house. At the curb in front of my house, the
    water was over the top bar (~ 30"😉. It was good to be on a single-speed
    cruiser that was destined for the trash. It had too many problems to be
    salvageable. That ride finished the job and the bike went into the
    trash heap along with the carpet, the drywall, lots of furniture....

    -Buck

  6. Mark Hickey thought the world would like to know that...

    Quoted message said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs.
    Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs
    and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    Most of the time the water you ride through is colder than the
    surrounding ambient air.

    This means that when a a BB or hub gets submerged, the air in it cools,
    contracts and sucks water in it. This even when the units are sealed,
    because this sealing is not strong enough to overcome the pressure
    difference.

    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu

  7. Ken C. M. wrote:
    :: So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    :: Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    :: Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water)
    :: that a rider should be aware of in deep water?

    If I can't see the road, I'm not riding over it. Plain and simple.

  8. Martin Borsje said:

    Mark Hickey thought the world would like to know that...

    Quoted message said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water)
    that a rider should be aware of in deep water?

    I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs.
    Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs
    and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB).

    Most of the time the water you ride through is colder than the
    surrounding ambient air.

    This means that when a a BB or hub gets submerged, the air in it cools,
    contracts and sucks water in it. This even when the units are sealed,
    because this sealing is not strong enough to overcome the pressure
    difference.

    Sounds like a reasonable theory as to why sealed bearings don't last as
    long as many think they should. I am not too disappointed in the miles
    per dollar I have gotten out of my commuter so far. It wasn't an
    expensive bike, but not exactly /cheap/ either. Bike was about $500 u.s.
    and now has about 4500 miles on it. So even if I need to replace /
    rebuild / repack some bearings, I still think the bike has served me well.

    Ken
    --
    Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

  9. "Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_frm/thread/2bbb1f7bb3200937/202e2145b580c21a?lnk=st&q=She+Who+Bicycles+With+Fishes&rnum=1&hl=en#202e2145b580c21a

    or http://tinyurl.com/p4job

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  10. Claire Petersky said:

    "Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_frm/thread/2bbb1f7bb3200937/202e2145b580c21a?lnk=st&q=She+Who+Bicycles+With+Fishes&rnum=1&hl=en#202e2145b580c21a

    or http://tinyurl.com/p4job

    I figured it was already covered here in the past however it seems like
    there is a pretty good turnover rate with the people who post here and
    thought it might be good to re-visit the topic. Thanks for looking it up.

    Ken
    --
    Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

  11. "Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Claire Petersky said:

    "Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_frm/thread/2bbb1f7bb3200937/202e2145b580c21a?lnk=st&q=She+Who+Bicycles+With+Fishes&rnum=1&hl=en#202e2145b580c21a

    or http://tinyurl.com/p4job

    I figured it was already covered here in the past however it seems like
    there is a pretty good turnover rate with the people who post here and
    thought it might be good to re-visit the topic. Thanks for looking it up.

    Oh, I didn't post the old thread to say, "Look, this was covered (with
    water?) in the past". That's kind of obnoxious, and there's always new
    people in the group, and we're here in part to share our personal
    experience. Rather, I put it up there just to give a pointer to a post I
    wrote about on the deepest water I've gone through.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  12. Mark Hickey said:

    "Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    Quoted message said:

    I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs.
    Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs
    and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB).

    Back in May I rode the Jordan River Parkway in Salt Lake Valley.
    Where the path goes under the 201 Freeway there was about 4" of water --
    no big deal. Came back in June and there was still water, so I went for
    it again. This time it turned out to be over a foot deep. There was a
    park about a quarter mile further on, so I stopped, placed bike, shoes,
    and socks in the sun, and took a half-hour siesta. The soaking finished
    off a pair of aging shoes, and soon afterward my bottom bracket started
    making a sort of clicking/crunching noise. I am currently going stir
    crazy because the bike is in the shop for a general tune-up and
    replacement of the bottom bracket bearings.
    Next time I ride that trail and the sign says there's high water, I'll
    walk the bike over the rip-rap slope above the trail.

    Bill

    __o | Hummer: 10 mpg
    _`\(,_ | Bicycle: uses no oil at all.
    (_)/ (_) | So, who are the patriots?

  13. Ken C. M. said:

    The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty
    deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only
    about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting
    bike.

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    Ken

    Last time I dumped my bike happened in two inch deep water. It is real
    easy to hit something you can't see when riding in water. Of course,
    living in Texas I have very little experience riding in the rain. It is
    probably a lot easier to get used to riding in the rain if you actually
    see rain once in a while. =]

  14. Ken C. M. said:

    The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty
    deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only
    about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting
    bike.

    So I guess this is a question and a poll:
    Whats the deepest water you have ridden through?
    Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a
    rider should be aware of in deep water?

    Ken


    I tried that once and the only problem was that the water kept getting
    deeper as I went. Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road
    that was flooded in farmland. At about the half mile point of serious
    pedaling it got over my bracket and I couldn't pedal hard enough to keep
    my balance and went over sideways into some pretty cold water. After
    picking myself up and heading back (the water kept getting deeper) I heard
    laughing coming from my starting point. The 2 red necks watching me were
    betting I would not make it and they were right. That did earn me a free
    beer when I got back to them and some BS'ing about the dumbest thing they
    had ever seen anyone attempt on a bicycle.
    Figures I would be the one to win that bet.
    Bill Baka

  15. Bill Baka wrote:

    Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road

    Quoted message said:

    that was flooded

    That's a pretty wide road!

  16. gds wrote:
    :: Bill Baka wrote:
    ::
    ::
    :: Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road
    ::: that was flooded
    ::
    :: That's a pretty wide road!

    Sure the heck is, huh? Sounds as if he had to go down into a low point to
    get to the road before crossing it. So, he must have been on one road while
    trying to cross another. The road he was on must have been covered with
    water.

    What I don't get is why would anyone ever try this? Riding a skinny bike
    tire over ground I can't see seems to make little sense.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bill Baka said:

    I tried that once and the only problem was that the water kept getting
    deeper as I went. Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road
    that was flooded in farmland. At about the half mile point of serious
    pedaling it got over my bracket and I couldn't pedal hard enough to keep
    my balance and went over sideways into some pretty cold water. After
    picking myself up and heading back (the water kept getting deeper) I heard
    laughing coming from my starting point. The 2 red necks watching me were
    betting I would not make it and they were right. That did earn me a free
    beer when I got back to them and some BS'ing about the dumbest thing they
    had ever seen anyone attempt on a bicycle.
    Figures I would be the one to win that bet.

    I recall an old TV commercial where a hardcore MTB guy observes
    a little kid on his kiddie bike, riding through a little puddle
    and gleefully exclaiming "Whee!" as the water splashes up from
    his tires. So the hardcore MTB guy takes his cue from the kid
    and rides into a /deep/ puddle on a country dirt road -- submerging
    out of sight like a U-boat for a few moments, and then emerging on
    the other side, where he takes off his now muddy shades and smugly
    mutters to himself in sotto voce: "Whee."

    I forget which product the advert was flogging. I guess
    whomever created it was more of an Artist than a marketeer.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
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    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  18. "Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I recall an old TV commercial where a hardcore MTB guy observes
    a little kid on his kiddie bike, riding through a little puddle
    and gleefully exclaiming "Whee!" as the water splashes up from
    his tires. So the hardcore MTB guy takes his cue from the kid
    and rides into a /deep/ puddle on a country dirt road -- submerging
    out of sight like a U-boat for a few moments, and then emerging on
    the other side, where he takes off his now muddy shades and smugly
    mutters to himself in sotto voce: "Whee."


    One winter, I rode across a shallow creek that I took to be well-frozen. It
    wasn't, and I went in deep enough to flood the bottom bracket. I stayed
    upright, but my shoes and socks were soaked. I was also about 30-35 miles
    back to my car. I wandered off at the next highway, found a Menard's
    (midwestern home improvement center), bought some wool socks and put them
    on, with a Menard's plastic bag between the socks and my soaked shoes.

    The cartridge bottom bracket failed a couple of months later.

  19. On my road bike only a couple of inches. On my MOUNTAIN bike, well,
    let's just say I'm glad the hubs and BB were packed with waterproof
    grease...

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  20. I once rode a borrowed bike through flood waters that had come up
    from a river, onto a bikepath. It was about a foot deep, but I thought
    I could make it through. However, a section of the concrete path had
    washed out and I took a spill. The bike disappeared into the murky,
    fast-moving water (did I mention that it was 2:00 am and that a freeze
    of 28 degrees had set in?) I couldn't find the bike at first and had to
    go into waist-deep water, feeling around with my feet. I finally
    located it, about 20 feet downstream. I was soaked and numb, but I
    managed to ride it two miles home. I couldn't get my hands to turn the
    doorknob, but my girlfriend was there to let me in. I survived without
    frostbite and I didn't have to buy my friend a new bike. How could you
    ask for a better riding experience than that? There are too many
    lessons in all that, to even count. I was so exhilerated by it, that I
    bought my own bike the next day (and one for the girlfriend) and began
    my adult phase of bikeriding, which is still going.

    Steve McDonald
    Eugene, Oregon

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