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  1. Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired by
    the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same groups,
    in spite of the excellent work he produces and the help
    he has been to his patients.

    Ilena

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    mercola.comdeath by medicine.htm

    Natural medicine has come under attack as pharmaceutical
    company lobbyists push lawmakers to deprive Americans of the
    benefits of dietary supplements. Drug-front groups have
    implemented slanderous campaigns in attempts to undermine
    the value of natural health lifestyles.

    These attacks to natural medicine prompted an independent
    review of government-approved medicine, which revealed that
    conventional medicine was the leading cause of death in the
    United States. This review of government health statistics
    showed that in most cases, American medicine does more harm
    than good. Compelling evidence from this study unveiled
    astounding statistics on the 783,936 deaths per year that
    have resulted from conventional medicine.

    The purpose of this article was to memorialize the failure
    of the American medical system by exposing the horrifying
    statistics of the inadequacies of today’s health care
    system with the goal of beginning some meaningful reform.

    Highlights from the findings in the review:

    U.S. health care spending has reached $1.6 trillion in 2003,
    which represents 14 percent of the nation’s gross
    national product.

    In a 1992 survey, a national pharmacy database found a total
    of 429,827 medication errors from 1,081 hospitals.

    In 1974, 2.4 million unnecessary surgeries were performed
    that resulted in 11,900 deaths compared to the year 2001,
    where 7.5 million unnecessary surgeries were performed
    resulting in 37,136 deaths.

    A 1998 study reported an estimated 106,000 deaths from
    prescription medications per year.

    Nearly 9 million people were unnecessarily
    hospitalized in 2001.

    Here are additional reasons why the traditional paradigm
    is flawed:

    Studies have found that the 41 million Americans without
    health insurance have an increased risk for dying
    prematurely and not receiving appropriate medical care.

    20 percent of all causes of death occur in nursing homes.

    More than 30 percent of nursing homes in the United States
    were cited for abuses, exceeding over 9,000 violations.

    A study of a 100-bed sub-acute care hospital revealed that
    only 8 percent of the patients were well nourished, 29
    percent were malnourished and 63 percent were at risk of
    malnutrition.

    Life Extension Institute March 2004

    Ds. Mercola's Comment:

    This definitive review of the conventional health care
    system is a must-read because it describes in detail the
    failure of the traditional paradigm and provides us with
    shocking statistics on the thousands and thousands of deaths
    that resulted from unnecessary or incorrect medical
    treatments.

    The only problem I have with this article is that the
    formatting is really terrible and makes it difficult to
    follow. The Web site uses a type of frame and you need to
    use the light blue bar on the immediate right of the text to
    scroll down and reach the next page. However, despite the
    formatting issue, I highly recommend reading this article.

    This article acts as yet another huge wake-up call by
    providing further substantial evidence that the health care
    system is in desperate need of drastic reform. Too many
    lives are being lost at the hands of conventional medicine.

    The findings in this review also further reinforce my vision
    and passion, which is to transform the medicine and surgery-
    bombarded medical paradigm to one that focuses on treatment
    and prevention of the underlying causes.

    I view this review as a very positive step toward fulfilling
    my vision because it specifically outlines the blatant
    mistakes and failures of the traditional system.

    The statistics from this review gives people even more
    reasons to explore alternative and less evasive approaches
    to health care--such as educating yourself with the
    information in my Total Health Program--to find out what is
    truly going on.

    The increasing number of people visiting my Web site have
    access to a constantly expanding database that they can use
    as a tool to educate themselves on how to facilitate their
    own healing.

    mercola.comdeath by medicine.htm
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    *************

    Death by Medicine, Part I

    By Gary Null PhD, Carolyn Dean MD ND, Martin Feldman MD,
    Debora Rasio MD, Dorothy Smith PhD

    ABSTRACT

    A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review
    journals, and government health statistics shows that
    American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The
    number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions
    (ADR) to prescribed medicine is
    2.2 million.1 Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said
    the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually
    for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003,
    now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary
    antibiotics.2, 2a

    The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures
    performed annually is 7.5 million.3 The number of people
    exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9
    million.4 The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the
    following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American
    medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in
    the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate
    is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251.5

    TABLES AND FIGURES (see Section on Statistical Tables and
    Figures, below, for exposition)
    mercola.comdeath by medicine.htm

    ANNUAL PHYSICAL AND ECONOMIC COST OF MEDICAL INTERVENTIONWe
    could have an even higher death rate by using Dr. Lucien
    Leape’s 1997 medical and drug error rate of 3 million.
    14 Multiplied by the fatality rate of 14% (that Leape used
    in 199416 we arrive at an annual death rate of 420,000 for
    drug errors and medical errors combined. If we put this
    number in place of Lazorou’s 106,000 drug errors and
    the Institute of Medicine’s (IOM) 98,000 medical
    errors, we could add another 216,000 deaths making a total
    of 999,936 deaths annually. ANNUAL UNNECESSARY MEDICAL
    EVENTS STATISTICS

    The enumerating of unnecessary medical events is very
    important in our analysis. Any medical procedure that is
    invasive and not necessary must be considered as part of the
    larger iatrogenic picture. Unfortunately, cause and effect
    go unmonitored. The figures on unnecessary events represent
    people (“patients”) who are thrust into a
    dangerous healthcare system. They are helpless victims. Each
    one of these 16.4 million lives is being affected in a way
    that could have a fatal consequence. Simply entering a
    hospital could result in the following:

    3.In 16.4 million people, 2.1% chance of a serious adverse
    drug reaction,1 (186,000)

    4.In 16.4 million people, 5-6% chance of acquiring a
    nosocomial infection,9 (489,500)

    4.Aa1.4 million people, 4-36% chance of having an iatrogenic
    injury in hospital (medical error and adverse drug
    reactions),16 (1.78 million)

    5.In 16.4 million people, 17% chance of a procedure error,40
    (1.3 million)

    All the statistics above represent a one-year time span.
    Imagine the numbers over a ten-year period. Working with the
    most conservative figures from our statistics we project the
    following 10-year death rates.

    TEN-YEAR DEATH RATES FOR MEDICAL INTERVENTION

    Our projected statistic of 7.8 million iatrogenic deaths is
    more than all the casualties from wars that America has
    fought in its entire history.

    Our projected figures for unnecessary medical events
    occurring over a 10-year period are also dramatic.

    TEN-YEAR STATISTICS FOR UNNECESSARY INTERVENTION

    These projected figures show that a total of 164 million
    people, approximately 56% of the population of the
    United States, have been treated unnecessarily by the
    medical industry – in other words, nearly 50,000
    people per day.

    INTRODUCTION

    Never before have the complete statistics on the multiple
    causes of iatrogenesis been combined in one paper. Medical
    science amasses tens of thousands of papers annually--each
    one a tiny fragment of the whole picture. To look at only
    one piece and try to understand the benefits and risks is to
    stand one inch away from an elephant and describe everything
    about it. You have to pull back to reveal the complete
    picture, such as we have done here. Each specialty, each
    division of medicine, keeps their own records and data on
    morbidity and mortality like pieces of a puzzle. But the
    numbers and statistics were always hiding in plain sight. We
    have now completed the painstaking work of reviewing
    thousands and thousands of studies. Finally putting the
    puzzle together we came up with some disturbing answers.

    Is American Medicine Working?

    At 14 percent of the Gross National Product, health care
    spending reached $1.6 trillion in 2003.15 Considering this
    enormous expenditure, we should have the best medicine in
    the world. We should be reversing disease, preventing
    disease, and doing minimal harm. However, careful and
    objective review shows the opposite. Because of the
    extraordinary narrow context of medical technology through
    which contemporary medicine examines the human condition, we
    are completely missing the full picture.

    Medicine is not taking into consideration the following
    monumentally important aspects of a healthy human organism:
    (a) stress and how it adversely affects the immune system
    and life processes; (b) insufficient exercise; (c)
    excessive caloric intake; (d) highly-processed and
    denatured foods grown in denatured and chemically-damaged
    soil; and (e) exposure to tens of thousands of
    environmental toxins. Instead of minimizing these disease-
    causing factors, we actually cause more illness through
    medical technology, diagnostic testing, overuse of medical
    and surgical procedures, and overuse of pharmaceutical
    drugs. The huge disservice of this therapeutic strategy is
    the result of little effort or money being appropriated for
    preventing disease.

    Under-reporting of Iatrogenic Events

    As few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic
    acts are ever reported.16,24,25,33,34 This implies that if
    medical errors were completely and accurately reported, we
    would have a much higher annual iatrogenic death rate than
    783,936. Dr. Leape, in 1994, said his figure of 180,000
    medical mistakes annually was equivalent to three jumbo-jet
    crashes every two days.16 Our report shows that six jumbo
    jets are falling out of the sky each and every day.

    Correcting a Compromised System

    What we must deduce from this report is that medicine is in
    need of complete and total reform: from the curriculum in
    medical schools to protecting patients from excessive
    medical intervention. It is quite obvious that we
    can’t change anything if we are not honest about what
    needs to be changed. This report simply shows the degree to
    which change is required.

    We are fully aware that what stands in the way of change are
    powerful pharmaceutical companies, medical technology
    companies, and special interest groups with enormous vested
    interests in the business of medicine. They fund medical
    research, support medical schools and hospitals, and
    advertise in medical journals. With deep pockets they entice
    scientists and academics to support their efforts. Such
    funding can sway the balance of opinion from professional
    caution to uncritical acceptance of a new therapy or drug.

    You only have to look at the number of invested people on
    hospital, medical, and government health advisory boards
    to see conflict of interest. The public is mostly unaware
    of these interlocking interests. For example, a 2003
    study found that nearly half of medical school faculty,
    who serve on Institutional Review Boards (IRB) to advise
    on clinical trial research, also serve as consultants to
    the pharmaceutical industry.17 The authors were concerned
    that such representation could cause potential conflicts
    of interest.

    A news release by Dr. Erik Campbell, the lead author, said,
    "Our previous research with faculty has shown us that ties
    to industry can affect scientific behavior, leading to such
    things as trade secrecy and delays in publishing research.
    It's possible that similar relationships with companies
    could affect IRB members' activities and attitudes.”18

    Medical Ethics and Conflict of Interest in Scientific
    Medicine

    Jonathan Quick, director of Essential Drugs and Medicines
    Policy for the World Health Organization (WHO) wrote in a
    recent WHO Bulletin: "If clinical trials become a commercial
    venture in which self-interest overrules public interest and
    desire overrules science, then the social contract which
    allows research on human subjects in return for medical
    advances is broken."19

    Former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM),
    Dr. Marcia Angell, struggled to bring the attention of the
    world to the problem of commercializing scientific research
    in her outgoing editorial titled “Is Academic Medicine
    for Sale?”20 Angell called for stronger restrictions
    on pharmaceutical stock ownership and other financial
    incentives for researchers. She said that growing conflicts
    of interest are tainting science.

    She warned that, “When the boundaries between industry
    and academic medicine become as blurred as they are now, the
    business goals of industry influence the mission of medical
    schools in multiple ways.” She did not discount the
    benefits of research but said a Faustian bargain now existed
    between medical schools and the pharmaceutical industry.

    Angell left the NEMJ in June 2000. Two years later, in
    June 2002, the NEJM announced that it would now accept
    biased journalists (those who accept money from drug
    companies) because it is too difficult to find ones who
    have no ties. Another former editor of the journal, Dr.
    Jerome Kassirer, said that was just not the case, that
    there are plenty of researchers who don’t work for
    drug companies.21 The ABC report said that one measurable
    tie between pharmaceutical companies and doctors amounts
    to over $2 billion a year spent for over 314,000 events
    that doctors attend.

    The ABC report also noted that a survey of clinical trials
    revealed that when a drug company funds a study, there is a
    90 percent chance that the drug will be perceived as
    effective whereas a non-drug company-funded study will show
    favorable results 50 percent of the time. It appears that
    money can’t buy you love but it can buy you any
    "scientific" result you want. The only safeguard to
    reporting these studies was if the journal writers remained
    unbiased. That is no longer the case.

    Cynthia Crossen, writer for the Wall Street Journal in 1996,
    published Tainted Truth: The Manipulation of Fact in
    America, a book about the widespread practice of lying with
    statistics.22 Commenting on the state of scientific research
    she said that, “The road to hell was paved with the
    flood of corporate research dollars that eagerly filled gaps
    left by slashed government research funding.” Her data
    on financial involvement showed that in l981 the drug
    industry “gave” $292 million to colleges and
    universities for research. In l991 it “gave”
    $2.1 billion.

    THE FIRST IATROGENIC STUDY

    Dt. Lucian L. Leape opened medicine’s Pandora’s
    box in his 1994 JAMA paper, “Error in
    Medicine”.16 He began the paper by reminiscing
    about Florence Nightingale’s maxim--“first
    do no harm.” But he found evidence of the opposite
    happening in medicine. He found that Schimmel reported
    in 1964 that 20 percent of hospital patients suffered
    iatrogenic injury, with a 20 percent fatality rate.
    Steel in 1981 reported that 36 percent of hospitalized
    patients experienced iatrogenesis with a 25 percent
    fatality rate and adverse drug reactions were involved
    in 50 percent of the injuries. Bedell in 1991 reported
    that 64 percent of acute heart attacks in one hospital
    were preventable and were mostly due to adverse drug
    reactions.

    However, Leape focused on his and Brennan’s
    “Harvard Medical Practice Study” published in
    1991.16a They found that in 1984, in New York State, there
    was a 4 percent iatrogenic injury rate for patients with a
    14 percent fatality rate. From the 98,609 patients injured
    and the 14 percent fatality rate, he estimated that in the
    whole of the U.S. 180,000 people die each year, partly as a
    result of iatrogenic injury. Leape compared these deaths to
    the equivalent of three jumbo-jet crashes every two days.

    Why Leape chose to use the much lower figure of four percent
    injury for his analysis remains in question. Perhaps he
    wanted to tread lightly. If Leape had, instead, calculated
    the average rate among the three studies he cites (36
    percent, 20 percent, and 4 percent), he would have come up
    with a 20 percent medical error rate. The number of
    fatalities that he could have presented, using an average
    rate of injury and his 14 percent fatality, is an annual
    1,189,576 iatrogenic deaths, or over ten jumbo jets crashing
    every day.

    Leape acknowledged that the literature on medical error is
    sparse and we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. He
    said that when errors are specifically sought out, reported
    rates are “distressingly high”. He cited several
    autopsy studies with rates as high as 35 percent to 40
    percent of missed diagnoses causing death. He also commented
    that an intensive care unit reported an average of 1.7
    errors per day per patient, and 29 percent of those errors
    were potentially serious or fatal. We wonder: what is the
    effect on someone who daily gets the wrong medication, the
    wrong dose, the wrong procedure; how do we measure the
    accumulated burden of injury; and when the patient finally
    succumbs after the tenth error that week, what is entered on
    the death certificate?

    Leape calculated the rate of error in the intensive care
    unit. First, he found that each patient had an average of
    178 “activities” (staff/procedure/medical
    interactions) a day, of which 1.7 were errors, which means a
    1 percent failure rate. To some this may not seem like much,
    but putting this into perspective, Leape cited industry
    standards where in aviation a 0.1 percent failure rate would
    mean 2 unsafe plane landings per day at O’Hare
    airport; in the U.S. Mail, 16,000 pieces of lost mail every
    hour; or in banking, 32,000 bank checks deducted from the
    wrong bank account every hour.

    Analyzing why there is so much medical error Leape
    acknowledged the lack of reporting. Unlike a jumbo-jet
    crash, which gets instant media coverage, hospital errors
    are spread out over the country in thousands of different
    locations. They are also perceived as isolated and unusual
    events. However, the most important reason that medical
    error is unrecognized and growing, according to Leape, was,
    and still is, that doctors and nurses are unequipped to
    deal with human error, due to the culture of medical
    training and practice.

    Doctors are taught that mistakes are unacceptable. Medical
    mistakes are therefore viewed as a failure of character and
    any error equals negligence. We can see how a great deal of
    sweeping under the rug takes place since nobody is taught
    what to do when medical error does occur. Leape cited
    McIntyre and Popper who said the “infallibility
    model” of medicine leads to intellectual dishonesty
    with a need to cover up mistakes rather than admit them.
    There are no Grand Rounds on medical errors, no sharing of
    failures among doctors and no one to support them
    emotionally when their error harms a patient.

    Leape hoped his paper would encourage medicine “to
    fundamentally change the way they think about errors and why
    they occur”. It’s been almost a decade since
    this groundbreaking work, but the mistakes continue to soar.

    One year later, in 1995, a report in JAMA said that, "Over a
    million patients are injured in U.S. hospitals each year,
    and approximately 280,000 die annually as a result of these
    injuries. Therefore, the iatrogenic death rate dwarfs the
    annual automobile accident mortality rate of 45,000 and
    accounts for more deaths than all other accidents
    combined."23

    At a press conference in 1997 Dr. Leape released a
    nationwide poll on patient iatrogenesis conducted by the
    National Patient Safety Foundation (NPSF), which is
    sponsored by the American Medical Association. The survey
    found that more than 100 million Americans have been
    impacted directly and indirectly by a medical mistake. Forty-
    two percent were directly affected and a total of 84 percent
    personally knew of someone who had experienced a medical
    mistake.14 Dr. Leape is a founding member of the NPSF.

    Du. Leape at this press conference also updated his 1994
    statistics saying that medical errors in inpatient
    hospital settings nationwide, as of 1997, could be as
    high as three million and could cost as much as $200
    billion. Leape used a 14 percent fatality rate to
    determine a medical error death rate of 180,000 in
    1994.16 In 1997, using Leape’s base number of
    three million errors, the annual deaths could be as much
    as 420,000 for inpatients alone. This does not include
    nursing home deaths, or people in the outpatient
    community dying of drug side effects or as the result of
    medical procedures.

    ONLY A FRACTION OF MEDICAL ERRORS ARE REPORTED

    Leape, in 1994, said that he was well aware that medical
    errors were not being reported.16 According to a study in
    two obstetrical units in the U.K., only about one quarter of
    the adverse incidents on the units are ever reported for
    reasons of protecting staff or preserving reputations, or
    fear of reprisals, including law suits.24 An analysis by
    Wald and Shojania found that only 1.5 percent of all adverse
    events result in an incident report, and only 6 percent of
    adverse drug events are identified properly.

    The authors learned that the American College of Surgeons
    gives a very broad guess that surgical incident reports
    routinely capture only 5-30 percent of adverse events. In
    one surgical study only 20 percent of surgical complications
    resulted in discussion at Morbidity and Mortality Rounds.25
    From these studies it appears that all the statistics that
    are gathered may be substantially underestimating the number
    of adverse drug and medical therapy incidents. It also
    underscores the fact that our mortality statistics are
    actually conservative figures.

    An article in Psychiatric Times outlines the stakes involved
    with reporting medical errors.26 They found that the public
    is fearful of suffering a fatal medical error, and doctors
    are afraid they will be sued if they report an error. This
    brings up the obvious question: who is reporting medical
    errors? Usually it is the patient or the patient’s
    surviving family. If no one notices the error, it is never
    reported. Janet Heinrich, an associate director at the U.S.

    General Accounting Office responsible for health financing
    and public health issues, testifying before a House
    subcommittee about medical errors, said that, "The full
    magnitude of their threat to the American public is
    unknown.” She added, "Gathering valid and useful
    information about adverse events is extremely difficult."
    She acknowledged that the fear of being blamed, and the
    potential for legal liability, played key roles in the under-
    reporting of errors. The Psychiatric Times noted that the
    American Medical Association is strongly opposed to
    mandatory reporting of medical errors.26 If doctors
    aren’t reporting, what about nurses? In a survey of
    nurses, they also did not report medical mistakes for fear
    of retaliation.27

    Standard medical pharmacology texts admit that relatively
    few doctors ever report adverse drug reactions to the FDA.28
    The reasons range from not knowing such a reporting system
    exists to fear of being sued because they prescribed a drug
    that caused harm. 29 However, it is this tremendously flawed
    system of voluntary reporting from doctors that we depend on
    to know whether a drug or a medical intervention is harmful.

    Pharmacology texts will also tell doctors how hard it is to
    separate drug side effects from disease symptoms. Treatment
    failure is most often attributed to the disease and not the
    drug or the doctor. Doctors are warned, “Probably
    nowhere else in professional life are mistakes so easily
    hidden, even from ourselves.”30 It may be hard to
    accept, but not difficult to understand, why only one in
    twenty side effects is reported to either hospital
    administrators or the FDA.31,31a

    If hospitals admitted to the actual number of errors and
    mistakes, which is about 20 times what is reported, they
    would come under intense scrutiny.32 Jerry Phillips,
    associate director of the Office of Post Marketing Drug Risk
    Assessment at the FDA, confirms this number. “In the
    broader area of adverse drug reaction data, the 250,000
    reports received annually probably represent only five
    percent of the actual reactions that occur.”33 Dr. Jay
    Cohen, who has extensively researched adverse drug
    reactions, comments that because only five percent of
    adverse drug reactions are being reported, there are, in
    reality, five million medication reactions each year.34

    It remains that whatever figure you choose to believe about
    the side effects from drugs, all the experts agree that you
    have to multiply that by 20 to get a more accurate estimate
    of what is really occurring in the burgeoning
    “field” of iatrogenic medicine.

    A 2003 survey is all the more distressing because there
    seems to be no improvement in error-reporting even with all
    the attention on this topic. Dr. Dorothea Wild surveyed
    medical residents at a community hospital in Connecticut.
    She found that only half of the residents were aware that
    the hospital had a medical error-reporting system, and the
    vast majority didn’t use it at all. Dr. Wild says this
    does not bode well for the future. If doctors don’t
    learn error-reporting in their training, they will never use
    it. And she adds that error reporting is the first step in
    finding out where the gaps in the medical system are and
    fixing them. That first baby step has not even begun.35

    PUBLIC SUGGESTIONS ON IATROGENESIS

    In a telephone survey, 1,207 adults were asked to indicate
    how effective they thought the following would be in
    reducing preventable medical errors that resulted in
    serious harm:36

    giving doctors more time to spend with patients: very
    effective 78 percent requiring hospitals to develop systems
    to avoid medical errors: very effective 74 percent better
    training of health professionals: very effective 73 percent
    using only doctors specially trained in intensive care
    medicine on intensive care units: very effective 73 percent
    requiring hospitals to report all serious medical errors to
    a state agency: very effective 71 percent increasing the
    number of hospital nurses: very effective 69 percent
    reducing the work hours of doctors-in-training to avoid
    fatigue: very effective 66 percent encouraging hospitals to
    voluntarily report serious medical errors to a state agency:
    very effective 62 percent

    DRUG IATROGENESIS

    Drugs comprise the major treatment modality of scientific
    medicine. With the discovery of the “Germ
    Theory” medical scientists convinced the public that
    infectious organisms were the cause of illness. Finding the
    “cure” for these infections proved much harder
    than anyone imagined. From the beginning, chemical drugs
    promised much more than they delivered. But far beyond not
    working, the drugs also caused incalculable side effects.
    The drugs themselves, even when properly prescribed, have
    side effects that can be fatal, as Lazarou’s study1
    shows. But human error can make the situation even worse.

    Medication Errors

    A survey of a 1992 national pharmacy database found a total
    of 429,827 medication errors from 1,081 hospitals.
    Medication errors occurred in
    5.22 percent of patients admitted to these hospitals each
    year. The authors concluded that a minimum of 90,895
    patients annually were harmed by medication errors in the
    country as a whole.37

    A 2002 study shows that 20 percent of hospital medications
    for patients had dosage mistakes. Nearly 40 percent of these
    errors were considered potentially harmful to the patient.
    In a typical 300-patient hospital the number of errors per
    day were 40.38

    Problems involving patients’ medications were even
    higher the following year. The error rate intercepted by
    pharmacists in this study was 24 percent, making the
    potential minimum number of patients harmed by prescription
    drugs 417,908.39

    Recent Adverse Drug Reactions

    More recent studies on adverse drug reactions show that the
    figures from 1994 (published in Lazarou’s 1998 JAMA
    article) may be increasing. A 2003 study followed 400
    patients after discharge from a tertiary care hospital
    (hospital care that requires highly specialized skills,
    technology or support services). Seventy-six patients (19
    percent) had adverse events. Adverse drug events were the
    most common at 66 percent. The next most common events were
    procedure-related injuries at 17 percent.40

    In a NEJM study an alarming one-in-four patients suffered
    observable side effects from the more than 3.34 billion
    prescription drugs filled in 2002.41 One of the doctors who
    produced the study was interviewed by Reuters and commented
    that, "With these 10-minute appointments, it's hard for the
    doctor to get into whether the symptoms are bothering the
    patients."42 William Tierney, who editorialized on the NEJM
    study, said “… given the increasing number of
    powerful drugs available to care for the aging population,
    the problem will only get worse.”

    The drugs with the worst record of side effects were the
    SSRIs, the NSAIDs, and calcium-channel blockers. Reuters
    also reported that prior research has suggested that nearly
    five percent of hospital admissions--over 1 million per year--
    are the result of drug side effects. But most of the cases
    are not documented as such. The study found one of the
    reasons for this failure: in nearly two-thirds of the cases,
    doctors couldn’t diagnose drug side effects or the
    side effects persisted because the doctor failed to heed the
    warning signs.

    Medicating Our Feelings

    We only need to look at the side effects of antidepressant
    drugs, which give hope to a depressed population. Patients
    seeking a more joyful existence and relief from worry,
    stress and anxiety, fall victim to the messages blatantly
    displayed on TV and billboards. Often, instead of relief,
    they also fall victim to a myriad of iatrogenic side effects
    of antidepressant medication.

    Also, a whole generation of antidepressant users has
    resulted from young people growing up on Ritalin. Medicating
    youth and modifying their emotions must have some impact on
    how they learn to deal with their feelings. They learn to
    equate coping with drugs and not their inner resources. As
    adults, these medicated youth reach for alcohol, drugs, or
    even street drugs, to cope. According to the Journal of the
    American Medical Association, “Ritalin acts much like
    cocaine.”43 Today’s marketing of mood-modifying
    drugs, such as Prozac or Zoloft, makes them not only
    socially acceptable but almost a necessity in today’s
    stressful world.

    Television Diagnosis

    In order to reach the widest audience possible, drug
    companies are no longer just targeting medical doctors with
    their message about antidepressants. By 1995 drug companies
    had tripled the amount of money allotted to direct
    advertising of prescription drugs to consumers. The majority
    of the money is spent on seductive television ads. From 1996
    to 2000, spending rose from $791 million to nearly $2.5
    billion.44 Even though $2.5 billion may seem like a lot of
    money, the authors comment that it only represents 15
    percent of the total pharmaceutical advertising budget.

    According to medical experts “there is no solid
    evidence on the appropriateness of prescribing that results
    from consumers requesting an advertised drug.”
    However, the drug companies maintain that direct-to-consumer
    advertising is educational. Dr. Sidney M. Wolfe, of the
    Public Citizen Health Research Group in Washington, D.C.,
    argues that the public is often misinformed about these
    ads.45 People want what they see on television and are told
    to go to their doctor for a prescription.

    Doctors in private practice either acquiesce to their
    patients’ demands for these drugs or spend valuable
    clinic time trying to talk patients out of unnecessary
    drugs. Dr. Wolfe remarks that one important study found that
    people mistakenly believe that the “FDA reviews all
    ads before they are released and allows only the safest and
    most effective drugs to be promoted directly to the
    public.”46

    How Do We Know Drugs Are Safe?

    Another aspect of scientific medicine that the public takes
    for granted is the testing of new drugs. Unlike the class of
    people that take drugs who are ill and need medication, in
    general, drugs are tested on individuals who are fairly
    healthy and not on other medications that can interfere with
    findings. But when they are declared “safe” and
    enter the drug prescription books, they are naturally going
    to be used by people on a variety of other medications and
    who also have a lot of other health problems.

    Then, a new Phase of drug testing called Post-Approval comes
    into play, which is the documentation of side effects once
    drugs hit the market. In one very telling report, the
    General Accounting Office (an agency of the U.S. Government)
    "found that of the 198 drugs approved by the FDA between
    1976 and 1985 … 102 (or 51.5 percent) had serious post-
    approval risks … the serious post-approval risks
    (included) heart failure, myocardial infarction,
    anaphylaxis, respiratory depression and arrest, seizures,
    kidney and liver failure, severe blood disorders, birth
    defects and fetal toxicity, and blindness."47

    The investigative show NBC’s “Dateline”
    wondered if your doctor is moonlighting as a drug rep.
    After a year-long investigation they reported that
    because doctors can legally prescribe any drug to any
    patient for any condition, drug companies heavily promote
    "off-label" and frequently inappropriate and non-tested
    uses of these medications in spite of the fact that these
    drugs are only approved for specific indications they
    have been tested for.48

    The leading causes of adverse drug reactions are antibiotics
    (17 percent), cardiovascular drugs (17 percent),
    chemotherapy (15 percent), and analgesics and anti-
    inflammatory agents (15 percent).49

    Specific Drug Iatrogenesis: Antibiotics

    Dv. Egger, in a recent editorial, wrote that after 50 years
    of increasing use of antibiotics, 30 million pounds of
    antibiotics are used in America per year.50 Twenty-five
    million pounds of this total are used in animal
    husbandry. The vast majority of this amount, 23 million
    pounds, is used to try to prevent disease, the stress of
    shipping, and to promote growth. Only 2 million pounds
    are given for specific animal infections. Dr. Egger
    reminds us that low concentrations of antibiotics are
    measurable in many of our foods, rivers, and streams
    around the world. Much of this is seeping into bodies of
    water from animal farms.

    Egger says overuse of antibiotics results in food-borne
    infections resistant to antibiotics. Salmonella is found in
    20 percent of ground meat but constant exposure of cattle to
    antibiotics has made 84 percent of salmonella resistant to
    at least one anti-salmonella antibiotic. Diseased animal
    food accounts for 80 percent of salmonellosis in humans, or
    1.4 million cases per year.

    The conventional approach to dealing with this epidemic is
    to radiate food to try to kill all organisms but keep using
    the antibiotics that cause the original problem.
    Approximately 20 percent of chickens are contaminated with
    Campylobacter jejuni causing 2.4 million human cases of
    illness annually. Fifty-four percent of these organisms are
    resistant to at least one anti-campylobacter antimicrobial.

    A ban on growth-promoting antibiotics in Denmark began in
    1999, which led to a decrease from 453,200 pounds to 195,800
    pounds within a year. Another report from Scandinavia found
    that taking away antibiotic growth promoters had no or
    minimal effect on food production costs. Egger further warns
    that in America the current crowded, unsanitary methods of
    animal farming support constant stress and infection, and
    are geared toward high antibiotic use. He says these
    conditions would have to be changed along with cutting back
    on antibiotic use.

    In America, over 3 million pounds of antibiotics are used
    every year on humans. With a population of 284 million
    Americans, this amount is enough to give every man, woman
    and child 10 teaspoons of pure antibiotics per year. Egger
    says that exposure to a steady stream of antibiotics has
    altered pathogens such as Streptococcus pneumoniae,
    Staplococcus aureus, and entercocci, to name a few.

    Almost half of patients with upper respiratory tract
    infections in the United States still receive antibiotics
    from their doctor.51 According to the CDC, 90 percent of
    upper respiratory infections are viral and should not be
    treated with antibiotics. In Germany the prevalence for
    systemic antibiotic use in children aged 0 to 6 years was
    42.9 percent.52

    Data taken from nine U.S. health plans between 1996 and 2000
    on antibiotic use in 25,000 children found that rates of
    antibiotic use decreased. Antibiotic use in children, aged 3
    months to under 3 years, decreased 24 percent, from 2.46 to
    1.89 antibiotic prescriptions per/patient per/year. For
    children, 3 years to under 6 years, there was a 25 percent
    reduction from 1.47 to 1.09 antibiotic prescriptions
    per/patient per/year. And for children aged 6 to under 18
    years, there was a 16 percent reduction from 0.85 to 0.69
    antibiotic prescriptions per/ patient /per year.53 Although
    there was a reduction in antibiotic use, the data indicate
    that on average every child in America receives
    1.22 antibiotic prescriptions annually.

    Group A beta-hemolytic streptococci is the only common cause
    of sore throat that requires antibiotics, penicillin and
    erythromycin being the only recommended treatment. However,
    90 percent of sore throats are viral. The authors of this
    study estimated there were 6.7 million adult annual visits
    for sore throat between 1989 and 1999 in the United States.
    Antibiotics were used in 73 percent of visits. Furthermore,
    patients treated with antibiotics were given non-recommended
    broad-spectrum antibiotics in 68 percent of visits.

    The authors noted, that from 1989 to 1999, there was a
    significant increase in the newer and more expensive broad-
    spectrum antibiotics and a decrease in use of penicillin and
    erythromycin, which are the recommended antibiotics.54 If
    antibiotics were given in 73 percent of visits and should
    have only been given in 10 percent, this represents 63
    percent, or a total of 4.2 million visits for sore throat
    that ended in unnecessary antibiotic prescriptions
    between1989 and 1999. In 1995, Dr. Besser and the CDC cited
    2003 cited much higher figures of 20 million unnecessary
    antibiotic prescriptions per year for viral infections.2
    Neither of these figures takes into account the number of
    unnecessary antibiotics used for non-fatal conditions such
    as acne, intestinal infection, skin infections, ear
    infections, etc.

    The Problem with Antibiotics: They are Anti-Life

    On September 17, 2003 the CDC relaunched a program, started
    in 1995, called “Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics
    Work.”55 This is a $1.6 million campaign to educate
    patients about the overuse and inappropriate use of
    antibiotics. Most people involved with alternative medicine
    have known about the dangers of overuse of antibiotics for
    decades. Finally the government is focusing on the problem,
    yet they are only putting a miniscule amount of money into
    an iatrogenic epidemic that is costing billions of dollars
    and thousands of lives.

    The CDC warns that 90 percent of upper respiratory
    infections, including children’s ear infections, are
    viral, and antibiotics don’t treat viral infection.
    More than 40 percent of about 50 million prescriptions for
    antibiotics each year in physicians' offices were
    inappropriate.2 And using antibiotics, when not needed, can
    lead to the development of deadly strains of bacteria that
    are resistant to drugs and cause more than 88,000 deaths due
    to hospital-acquired infections.9

    However, the CDC seems to be blaming patients for misusing
    antibiotics even though they are only available on
    prescription from a doctor who should know how to prescribe
    properly. Dr. Richard Besser, head of “Get
    Smart,” says "Programs that have just targeted
    physicians have not worked. Direct-to-consumer advertising
    of drugs is to blame in some cases.” Dr. Besser says
    the program “teaches patients and the general public
    that antibiotics are precious resources that must be used
    correctly if we want to have them around when we need them.
    Hopefully, as a result of this campaign, patients will feel
    more comfortable asking their doctors for the best care for
    their illnesses, rather than asking for antibiotics."56

    And what does the “best care” constitute? The
    CDC does not elaborate and patently avoids the latest
    research on the dozens of nutraceuticals scientifically
    proven to treat viral infections and boost the immune
    system. Will their doctors recommend vitamin C, echinacea,
    elderberry, vitamin A, zinc, or homeopathic oscillococcinum?
    No, they won’t. The archaic solutions offered by the
    CDC include a radio ad, “Just Say No--Snort, sniffle,
    sneeze--No antibiotics please." Their commonsense
    recommendations, that most people do anyway, include
    resting, drinking plenty of fluids, and using a humidifier.

    The pharmaceutical industry claims they are all for limiting
    the use of antibiotics. In order to make sure that happens,
    the drug company Bayer is sponsoring a program called,
    “Operation Clean Hands,” through an organization
    called LIBRA.57 The CDC is also involved with trying to
    minimize antibiotic resistance, but nowhere in their
    publications is there any reference to the role of
    nutraceuticals in boosting the immune system nor to the
    thousands of journal articles that support this approach.

    This recalcitrant tunnel vision and refusal to use available
    non-drug alternatives is absolutely inappropriate when the
    CDC is desperately trying to curb the nightmare of overuse
    of antibiotics. The CDC should also be called to task
    because it is only focusing on the overuse of antibiotics.
    There are similar nightmares for every class of drug being
    prescribed today.

    Drugs Pollute Our Water Supply

    We have reached the point of saturation with prescription
    drugs. We have arrived at the point where every body of
    water tested contains measurable drug residues. We are
    inundated with drugs. The tons of antibiotics used in
    animal farming, which run off into the water table and
    surrounding bodies of water, are conferring antibiotic
    resistance to germs in sewage, and these germs are also
    found in our water supply.

    Flushed down our toilets are tons of drugs and drug
    metabolites that also find their way into our water supply.
    We have no idea what the long-term consequences of ingesting
    a mixture of drugs and drug-breakdown products will do to
    our health. It’s another level of iatrogenic disease
    that we are unable to completely measure.58-67

    Specific Drug Iatrogenesis: NSAIDs

    It’s not just America that is plagued with
    iatrogenesis. A survey of 1,072 French general practitioners
    (GPs) tested their basic pharmacological knowledge and
    practice in prescribing NSAIDs. Non-steroidal anti-
    inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) rank first among commonly
    prescribed drugs for serious adverse reactions. The results
    of the study suggested that GPs don’t have adequate
    knowledge of these drugs and are unable to effectively
    manage adverse reactions.68

    A cross-sectional survey of 125 patients attending specialty
    pain clinics in South London found that possible iatrogenic
    factors such as “over-investigation, inappropriate
    information, and advice given to patients as well as
    misdiagnosis, over-treatment, and inappropriate prescription
    of medication were common.”69

    Specific Drug Iatrogenesis: Cancer Chemotherapy

    In 1989, a German biostatistician, Ulrich Abel PhD, after
    publishing dozens of papers on cancer chemotherapy, wrote a
    monograph “Chemotherapy of Advanced Epithelial
    Cancer.” It was later published in a shorter form in a
    peer-reviewed medical journal.70 Dr. Abel presented a
    comprehensive analysis of clinical trials and publications
    representing over 3,000 articles examining the value of
    cytotoxic chemotherapy on advanced epithelial cancer.
    Epithelial cancer is the type of cancer we are most familiar
    with. It arises from epithelium found in the lining of body
    organs such as breast, prostate, lung, stomach, or bowel.

    From these sites cancer usually infiltrates into adjacent
    tissue and spreads to bone, liver, lung, or the brain. With
    his exhaustive review
    Dw. Abel concludes that there is no direct evidence that
    chemotherapy prolongs survival in patients with advanced
    carcinoma. He said that in small-cell lung cancer and
    perhaps ovarian cancer the therapeutic benefit is only
    slight. Dr. Abel goes on to say, “Many oncologists
    take it for granted that response to therapy prolongs
    survival, an opinion which is based on a fallacy and
    which is not supported by clinical studies.”

    Over a decade after Dr. Abel’s exhaustive review of
    chemotherapy, there seems no decrease in its use for
    advanced carcinoma. For example, when conventional
    chemotherapy and radiation has not worked to prevent
    metastases in breast cancer, high-dose chemotherapy (HDC)
    along with stem-cell transplant (SCT) is the treatment of
    choice. However, in March 2000, results from the largest multi-
    center randomized controlled trial conducted thus far showed
    that, compared to a prolonged course of monthly conventional-
    dose chemotherapy, HDC and SCT were of no benefit.71 There
    was even a slightly lower survival rate for the HDC/SCT
    group. And the authors noted that serious adverse effects
    occurred more often in the HDC group than the standard-dose
    group. There was one treatment-related death (within 100
    days of therapy) in the HDC group, but none in the
    conventional chemotherapy group. The women in this trial
    were highly selected as having the best chance to respond.

    There is also no all-encompassing follow-up study like Dr.
    Abel’s that tells us if there is any improvement in
    cancer-survival statistics since 1989. In fact, we need to
    research whether chemotherapy itself is responsible for
    secondary cancers instead of progression of the original
    disease. We continue to question why well-researched
    alternative cancer treatments aren’t used.

    Drug Companies Fined

    Periodically, a drug manufacturer is fined by the FDA when
    the abuses are too glaring and impossible to cover up. The
    May 2002 Washington Post reported that the maker of
    Claritin, Schering-Plough Corp., was to pay a $500 million
    fine to the FDA for quality-control problems at four of its
    factories.72 The FDA tabulated infractions that included 90
    percent, or 125 of the drugs they made since 1998. Besides
    the fine, the company had to stop manufacturing 73 drugs or
    suffer another $175 million fine. PR statements by the
    company told another story. The company assured consumers
    that they should still feel confident in its products.

    Such a large settlement serves as a warning to the drug
    industry about maintaining strict manufacturing practices
    and has given the FDA more clout in dealing with drug
    company compliance. According to the Washington Post
    article, a federal appeals court ruled in 1999 that the FDA
    could seize the profits of companies that violate "good
    manufacturing practices." Since that time Abbott
    Laboratories Inc. paid $100 million for failing to meet
    quality standards in the production of medical test kits,
    and Wyeth Laboratories Inc. paid $30 million in 2000 to
    settle accusations of poor manufacturing practices.

    The indictment against Schering-Plough came after the Public
    Citizen Health Research Group, lead by Dr. Sidney Wolfe,
    called for a criminal investigation of Schering-Plough,
    charging that the company distributed albuterol asthma
    inhalers even though it knew the units were missing the
    active ingredient.

    UNNECESSARY SURGICAL PROCEDURES

    Summary:

    1974: 2.4 million unnecessary surgeries performed annually
    resulting in 11,900 deaths at an annual cost of $3.9
    billion.73,74

    2001: 7.5 million unnecessary surgical procedures resulting
    in 37,136 deaths at a cost of $122 billion (using 1974
    dollars).3

    It’s very difficult to obtain accurate statistics when
    studying unnecessary surgery. Dr. Leape in 1989 wrote that
    perhaps 30 percent of controversial surgeries are
    unnecessary. Controversial surgeries include Cesarean
    section, tonsillectomy, appendectomy, hysterectomy,
    gastrectomy for obesity, breast implants, and elective
    breast implants.74

    Almost 30 years ago, in 1974, the Congressional Committee on
    Interstate and Foreign Commerce held hearings on unnecessary
    surgery. They found that 17.6 percent of recommendations for
    surgery were not confirmed by a second opinion. The House
    Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations extrapolated
    these figures and estimated that, on a nationwide basis,
    there were 2.4 million unnecessary surgeries performed
    annually, resulting in 11,900 deaths at an annual cost of
    $3.9 billion.73

    In 2001, the top 50 medical and surgical procedures totaled
    approximately 41.8 million. These figures were taken from
    the Healthcare Cost and Utilization Project within the
    Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality.13 Using 17.6
    percent from the 1974 U.S. Congressional House Subcommittee
    Oversight Investigation as the percentage of unnecessary
    surgical procedures, and extrapolating from the death rate
    in 1974, we come up with an unnecessary procedure number of
    7.5 million (7,489,718) and a death rate of 37,136, at a
    cost of $122 billion (using 1974 dollars).

    Researchers performed a very similar analysis, using the
    1974 ‘unnecessary surgery percentage’ of 17.6,
    on back surgery. In 1995, researchers testifying before the
    Department of Veterans Affairs estimated that of 250,000
    back surgeries in the U.S. at a hospital cost of $11,000 per
    patient, the total number of unnecessary back surgeries each
    year in the U.S. could approach 44,000, costing as much as
    $484 million.75

    The unnecessary surgery figures are escalating just as
    prescription drugs driven by television advertising. Media-
    driven surgery such as gastric bypass for obesity
    “modeled” by Hollywood personalities seduces
    obese people to think this route is safe and

    Internet.76 A study in Spain declares that between 20
    percent and 25 percent of total surgical practice represents
    unnecessary operations.77

    According to data from the National Center for Health
    Statistics from 1979 to 1984, there was a nine percent
    increase in the total number of surgical procedures, and the
    number of surgeons grew by 20 percent. The author notes that
    there has not been a parallel increase in the number of
    surgeries despite a recent large increase in the number of
    surgeons. There was concern that there would be too many
    surgeons to share a small surgical caseload.78

    The previous author spoke too soon--there was no cause to
    worry about a small surgical caseload. By 1994, there was an
    increase of 38 percent for a total of 7,929,000 cases for
    the top ten surgical procedures. In 1983, surgical cases
    totaled 5,731,000. In 1994, cataract surgery was number one
    with over two million operations, and second was Cesarean
    section (858,000 procedures). Inguinal hernia operations
    were third (689,000 procedures), and knee arthroscopy, in
    seventh place, grew 153 percent (632,000 procedures) while
    prostate surgery declined 29 percent (229,000 procedures).79

    The list of iatrogenic diseases from surgery is as long as
    the list of procedures themselves. In one study epidural
    catheters were inserted to deliver anesthetic into the
    epidural space around the spinal nerves to block them for
    lower Cesarean section, abdominal surgery, or prostate
    surgery. In some cases, non-sterile technique, during
    catheter insertion, resulted in serious infections, even
    leading to limb paralysis.80

    In one review of the literature, the authors demonstrated
    “a significant rate of overutilization of coronary
    angiography, coronary artery surgery, cardiac pacemaker
    insertion, upper gastrointestinal endoscopies, carotid
    endarterectomies, back surgery, and pain-relieving
    procedures.”81

    A 1987 JAMA study found the following significant levels of
    inappropriate surgery: 17 percent of cases for coronary
    angiography, 32 percent for carotid endarterectomy, and 17
    percent for upper gastrointestinal tract endoscopy.82 Using
    the Healthcare Cost and Utilization Project (HCUP)
    statistics provided by the government for 2001, the number
    of people getting upper gastrointestinal endoscopy, which
    usually entails biopsy, was 697,675; the number getting
    endarterectomy was 142,401; and the number having coronary
    angiography was 719,949.13 Therefore, according to the JAMA
    study 17 percent, or 118,604 people had an unnecessary
    endoscopy procedure. Endarterectomy occurred in 142,401
    patients; potentially 32 percent or 45,568 did not need this
    procedure. And 17 percent of 719,949, or 122,391 people
    receiving coronary angiography were subjected to this highly
    invasive procedure unnecessarily. These are all forms of
    medical iatrogenesis.

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  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired by
    the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same groups,
    in spite of the excellent work he produces and the help
    he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  3. [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired
    by the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    groups, in spite of the excellent work he produces
    and the help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting) searches
    through the Internet (apparently on a daily basis for the
    last 5 to 6 years) in order to specifically argue with or
    simply dis those who have anything negative to say about the
    medical profession... yet he is not affiliated with the med.
    prof. Hmmm. Interesting.

    With regard to "Death by Medicine", it is my contention that
    attention has been diverted from the primary problem (percentage-
    wise): Death by Iatrogenic cross-infection.

    ...and this is not 'just death'. One who dies from an
    infectious disease dies a horrible, protracted death (yes,
    with very high medical costs).

    This is signifcant because a full 80% - 80,000 - of those
    IOM-reported 100,000 who die annually from hospital related
    "mistakes and errors" die from an infectious disease. That
    is the big story.

    Please read the Introduction to "Fatal Probe". This may
    explain it a bit better:

    Fatal Probe: Study indicates 3.3 million women are cross-
    infected by U.S. doctors each year

    INTRODUCTION

    Writers and speakers who use the words "Cover Up" or
    "Conspiracy" are often categorized as fatuous, outrageous,
    daft or just plain nuts… and, for sure, many are well
    deserving of the moniker. The common threads in their
    spurious rants are a lack of empirical foundation and an
    absence of unbiased logic.

    The author chooses not to use these inculpatory nouns, but
    does report a long list of facts that allows the reader to
    arrive at their own conclusion… an undeniable conclusion
    that there is definitely something amiss in the U.S. medical
    community.

    This book is not another report of errors or mistakes made
    by members of the U.S. medical profession that was
    emblazoned across the front pages of newspapers, exposed by
    TV networks bantered about on radio talk shows and now
    written about by dozens of physicians.

    This book does not dispassionately rehash the fact that most
    doctors make errors and mistakes1 [as in "We are only
    human."], it exposes the fact that every year a significant
    percentage of them are explicitly culpable for the cross-
    contamination of 3.3 million female patients2.

    SAMPLE LEAD PARAGRAPH FROM JANUARY 2000 HEADLINE ARTICLE:

    In a study just released, the Institute of Medicine (IOM)
    reports that every year in the U.S. 100,000 hospital
    patients are being killed by medical mistakes and errors.
    The CDC says that 80% of them, or 80,000, die from an
    infectious disease, which is 4% of the 2 million who are
    infected yearly.

    This is an epitome of the introductory paragraph of the
    dramatic front-page headline articles that broke in all
    national and local U.S. media3 in early 2000. Since then
    there have been dozens of books and articles written by
    doctors in which they seem to lay their souls on the line…
    or at least the image and repute of the U.S. medical
    profession in general.

    However, it turns out that this may not be the case. Rather
    than a soul-bearing acknowledgment or confession, the books
    and articles may be, in fact, a brilliantly laid plan to
    divert attention from what is apparently a libelous,
    irresponsible course of continuous actions, the modus
    operandi of the medical profession: the accepted use of non-
    sterile instruments and procedures during highly invasive
    patient examinations.

    From the cover of "Internal Bleeding", by Dr. Robert Wachter
    and Dr. Kaveh Shojania:

    Each year doctors and nurses kill nearly 100,0004 Americans.
    By mistake. They operate on the wrong patients, prescribe
    the wrong drugs, and leave instruments inside body cavities
    after surgery. Meanwhile, hospitals spend billions on new
    gadgets, marble lobbies, and slick billboards, even as
    safety continues to be ignored. Until now. At first blush –
    and probably second – one thinks "Wow, these doctors are
    really sticking their necks out. Finally one of them has the
    guts to step out and tell the truth."

    Do not be fooled! This is "MedSpeak" at its best.

    It is remarkable that Drs. Wachter and Shojania choose to
    make no mention of – totally ignore – the 80,000 patients
    who die horrible, agonizing deaths every year from an
    infectious disease contracted during their hospital stay.
    How could this happen? Could it be this is just another
    inadvertent mistake, a mental error on their part?

    It is impractical to think that the doctors simply
    overlooked the fact that 80% of the 100,000 die each year
    from an infectious disease they contract during their
    hospital stay.

    The good doctors devote their entire 450-page book to
    describing the demise of the other 20,000, the 20% who died
    from the wrong prescription (7,000), unnecessary surgery
    (2,000) or some other medical error.

    Note: The author understands that the writing of articles
    and books may not be a consortium of individuals
    and/or entities brought together to distract
    attention away from the fact that most of the
    hospital patients – a full 80% – die from an
    infectious disease.

    However, it seems the only other logical explanation would
    be that those who wrote those books and articles are simply
    – let us say – illogical thinkers.

    It is interesting that physicians apparently lined up to
    offer predisposed, propitious comments. Though a great
    number of blurbs are offered up as testimonies of the truth
    and accuracy of the book's accountability, it is suspected
    that dozens of pages of mice-size type could have been
    filled with medical testimonials equally as positive.

    Additional thought:

    Since 80% of the 100,000 nosocomial8 deaths are attributable
    to infectious diseases, wouldn't it have made more sense if
    those original headline articles had read:

    80,000 Hospital Patients Die Every Year From Cross-
    Contaminated Infectious Diseases … another 20,000 die
    from medical mistakes

    Is this a case of lazy reporting or editorial leverage?

    End note:

    Drs. Wachter and Shojania were contacted and asked for their
    response. They had no comment.

    Fatal Probe by Will Locksley ISBN 0-9755657-0-2 Available
    from Amazon.com or your favorite local bookstore.

  4. A wonderful example of self-promotion.

    "yelxol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are
    hired by the silicone industry are hired by the
    pharmaceutical industry too.) They are well represented
    on Usenet, many found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    groups, in spite of the excellent work he produces
    and the help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting)
    searches through the Internet (apparently on a daily basis
    for the last 5 to 6 years) in order to specifically argue
    with or simply dis those who have anything negative to say
    about the medical profession... yet he is not affiliated
    with the med. prof. Hmmm. Interesting.

    With regard to "Death by Medicine", it is my contention
    that attention has been diverted from the primary problem
    (percentage-wise): Death by Iatrogenic cross-infection.

    ...and this is not 'just death'. One who dies from an
    infectious disease dies a horrible, protracted death (yes,
    with very high medical costs).

    This is signifcant because a full 80% - 80,000 - of those
    IOM-reported 100,000 who die annually from hospital
    related "mistakes and errors" die from an infectious
    disease. That is the big story.

    Please read the Introduction to "Fatal Probe". This may
    explain it a bit better:

    Fatal Probe: Study indicates 3.3 million women are cross-
    infected by U.S. doctors each year

    INTRODUCTION

    Writers and speakers who use the words "Cover Up" or
    "Conspiracy" are often categorized as fatuous, outrageous,
    daft or just plain nuts. and, for sure, many are well
    deserving of the moniker. The common threads in their
    spurious rants are a lack of empirical foundation and an
    absence of unbiased logic.

    The author chooses not to use these inculpatory nouns, but
    does report a long list of facts that allows the reader to
    arrive at their own conclusion. an undeniable conclusion
    that there is definitely something amiss in the U.S.
    medical community.

    This book is not another report of errors or mistakes made
    by members of the U.S. medical profession that was
    emblazoned across the front pages of newspapers, exposed
    by TV networks bantered about on radio talk shows and now
    written about by dozens of physicians.

    This book does not dispassionately rehash the fact that
    most doctors make errors and mistakes1 [as in "We are only
    human."], it exposes the fact that every year a
    significant percentage of them are explicitly culpable for
    the cross-contamination of 3.3 million female patients2.

    SAMPLE LEAD PARAGRAPH FROM JANUARY 2000 HEADLINE ARTICLE:

    In a study just released, the Institute of Medicine (IOM)
    reports that every year in the U.S. 100,000 hospital
    patients are being killed by medical mistakes and errors.
    The CDC says that 80% of them, or 80,000, die from an
    infectious disease, which is 4% of the 2 million who are
    infected yearly.

    This is an epitome of the introductory paragraph of the
    dramatic front-page headline articles that broke in all
    national and local U.S. media3 in early 2000. Since then
    there have been dozens of books and articles written by
    doctors in which they seem to lay their souls on the line.
    or at least the image and repute of the U.S. medical
    profession in general.

    However, it turns out that this may not be the case.
    Rather than a soul-bearing acknowledgment or confession,
    the books and articles may be, in fact, a brilliantly laid
    plan to divert attention from what is apparently a
    libelous, irresponsible course of continuous actions, the
    modus operandi of the medical profession: the accepted use
    of non-sterile instruments and procedures during highly
    invasive patient examinations.

    From the cover of "Internal Bleeding", by Dr. Robert
    Wachter and Dr. Kaveh Shojania:

    Each year doctors and nurses kill nearly 100,0004
    Americans. By mistake. They operate on the wrong
    patients, prescribe the wrong drugs, and leave
    instruments inside body cavities after surgery.
    Meanwhile, hospitals spend billions on new gadgets,
    marble lobbies, and slick billboards, even as safety
    continues to be ignored. Until now. At first blush - and
    probably second - one thinks "Wow, these doctors are
    really sticking their necks out. Finally one of them has
    the guts to step out and tell the truth."

    Do not be fooled! This is "MedSpeak" at its best.

    It is remarkable that Drs. Wachter and Shojania choose to
    make no mention of - totally ignore - the 80,000 patients
    who die horrible, agonizing deaths every year from an
    infectious disease contracted during their hospital stay.
    How could this happen? Could it be this is just another
    inadvertent mistake, a mental error on their part?

    It is impractical to think that the doctors simply
    overlooked the fact that 80% of the 100,000 die each year
    from an infectious disease they contract during their
    hospital stay.

    The good doctors devote their entire 450-page book to
    describing the demise of the other 20,000, the 20% who
    died from the wrong prescription (7,000), unnecessary
    surgery (2,000) or some other medical error.

    Note: The author understands that the writing of
    articles and books may not be a consortium of
    individuals and/or entities brought together to
    distract attention away from the fact that most of
    the hospital patients - a full 80% - die from an
    infectious disease.

    However, it seems the only other logical explanation would
    be that those who wrote those books and articles are
    simply - let us say - illogical thinkers.

    It is interesting that physicians apparently lined up to
    offer predisposed, propitious comments. Though a great
    number of blurbs are offered up as testimonies of the
    truth and accuracy of the book's accountability, it is
    suspected that dozens of pages of mice-size type could
    have been filled with medical testimonials equally as
    positive.

    Additional thought:

    Since 80% of the 100,000 nosocomial8 deaths are
    attributable to infectious diseases, wouldn't it have made
    more sense if those original headline articles had read:

    80,000 Hospital Patients Die Every Year From Cross-
    Contaminated Infectious Diseases
    . another 20,000 die from medical mistakes

    Is this a case of lazy reporting or editorial leverage?

    End note:

    Drs. Wachter and Shojania were contacted and asked for
    their response. They had no comment.

    Fatal Probe by Will Locksley ISBN 0-9755657-0-2 Available
    from Amazon.com or your favorite local bookstore.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: ~~~ Death by Medicine ~~~
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 6/23/2004 6:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired
    by the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same groups,
    in spite of the excellent work he produces and the
    help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods.

    No that would be quack quack.

  6. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: ~~~ Death by Medicine ~~~ From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 6/23/2004
    6:46 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired
    by the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    groups, in spite of the excellent work he produces
    and the help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods.

    No that would be quack quack.

    Mercola paid Barrett, not the other way around. You
    constantly chortle about Barrett's loses, but, you ar deaf,
    dumb and blind to Mercola's.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    yelxol said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired
    by the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    groups, in spite of the excellent work he produces
    and the help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting)

    Isn't it?

    Quoted message said:

    searches through the Internet (apparently on a daily basis
    for the last 5 to 6 years) in order to specifically argue
    with or simply dis those who have anything negative to say
    about the medical profession... yet he is not affiliated
    with the med. prof. Hmmm. Interesting.

    I'd love to know how you reached that conclusion about my
    activities, but I assume it'd be on a par with your other
    "research."

    Quoted message said:

    With regard to "Death by Medicine", it is my contention
    that attention has been diverted from the primary problem
    (percentage-wise): Death by Iatrogenic cross-infection.

    Yes, so I'd already assumed.

    Quoted message said:

    ...and this is not 'just death'. One who dies from an
    infectious disease dies a horrible, protracted death (yes,
    with very high medical costs).

    On the contrary, one of the most common deaths by infectious
    disease in the United States is influenza, which is hardly
    protracted.

    Quoted message said:

    This is signifcant because a full 80% - 80,000 - of those
    IOM-reported 100,000 who die annually from hospital related
    "mistakes and errors" die from an infectious disease. That
    is the big story.

    And do you know what those diseases are? If you do, you're
    sure managing to keep it a secret so far.

    Quoted message said:

    Fatal Probe: Study indicates 3.3 million women are cross-
    infected by U.S. doctors each year

    Ah, back on that hobby-horse.

    Quoted message said:

    In a study just released, the Institute of Medicine (IOM)
    reports that every year in the U.S. 100,000 hospital
    patients are being killed by medical mistakes and errors.
    The CDC says that 80% of them, or 80,000, die from an
    infectious disease, which is 4% of the 2 million who are
    infected yearly.

    How do you know that the 100,000 and 80,000 overlap? And how
    much do they overlap?

    Quoted message said:

    However, it turns out that this may not be the case. Rather
    than a soul-bearing acknowledgment or confession, the books
    and articles may be, in fact, a brilliantly laid plan to
    divert attention from what is apparently a libelous,
    irresponsible course of continuous actions, the modus
    operandi of the medical profession: the accepted use of non-
    sterile instruments and procedures during highly invasive
    patient examinations.

    Let's see. That should be "soul-baring," and the use of
    "libelous" makes no sense in this context. And that's just
    one paragraph.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  8. (yelxol) said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena Rose said:

    Death by Medicine

    Thanks Kathi for the link!

    Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    (quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are hired
    by the silicone industry are hired by the pharmaceutical
    industry too.) They are well represented on Usenet, many
    found at this link.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    groups, in spite of the excellent work he produces
    and the help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting) searches
    through the Internet (apparently on a daily basis for the
    last 5 to 6 years) in order to specifically argue with or
    simply dis those who have anything negative to say about
    the medical profession... yet he is not affiliated with the
    med. prof. Hmmm. Interesting.

    With regard to "Death by Medicine", it is my contention
    that attention has been diverted from the primary problem
    (percentage-wise): Death by Iatrogenic cross-infection.

    ...and this is not 'just death'. One who dies from an
    infectious disease dies a horrible, protracted death (yes,
    with very high medical costs).

    This is signifcant because a full 80% - 80,000 - of those
    IOM-reported 100,000 who die annually from hospital related
    "mistakes and errors" die from an infectious disease. That
    is the big story.

    Please read the Introduction to "Fatal Probe". This may
    explain it a bit better:

    Fatal Probe: Study indicates 3.3 million women are cross-
    infected by U.S. doctors each year

    INTRODUCTION

    Writers and speakers who use the words "Cover Up" or
    "Conspiracy" are often categorized as fatuous, outrageous,
    daft or just plain nuts… and, for sure, many are well
    deserving of the moniker. The common threads in their
    spurious rants are a lack of empirical foundation and an
    absence of unbiased logic.

    The author chooses not to use these inculpatory nouns, but
    does report a long list of facts that allows the reader to
    arrive at their own conclusion… an undeniable conclusion
    that there is definitely something amiss in the U.S.
    medical community.

    This book is not another report of errors or mistakes made
    by members of the U.S. medical profession that was
    emblazoned across the front pages of newspapers, exposed by
    TV networks bantered about on radio talk shows and now
    written about by dozens of physicians.

    This book does not dispassionately rehash the fact that
    most doctors make errors and mistakes1 [as in "We are only
    human."], it exposes the fact that every year a significant
    percentage of them are explicitly culpable for the cross-
    contamination of 3.3 million female patients2.

    SAMPLE LEAD PARAGRAPH FROM JANUARY 2000 HEADLINE ARTICLE:

    In a study just released, the Institute of Medicine (IOM)
    reports that every year in the U.S. 100,000 hospital
    patients are being killed by medical mistakes and errors.
    The CDC says that 80% of them, or 80,000, die from an
    infectious disease, which is 4% of the 2 million who are
    infected yearly.

    This is an epitome of the introductory paragraph of the
    dramatic front-page headline articles that broke in all
    national and local U.S. media3 in early 2000. Since then
    there have been dozens of books and articles written by
    doctors in which they seem to lay their souls on the line…
    or at least the image and repute of the U.S. medical
    profession in general.

    However, it turns out that this may not be the case. Rather
    than a soul-bearing acknowledgment or confession, the books
    and articles may be, in fact, a brilliantly laid plan to
    divert attention from what is apparently a libelous,
    irresponsible course of continuous actions, the modus
    operandi of the medical profession: the accepted use of non-
    sterile instruments and procedures during highly invasive
    patient examinations.

    From the cover of "Internal Bleeding", by Dr. Robert
    Wachter and Dr. Kaveh Shojania:

    Each year doctors and nurses kill nearly 100,0004
    Americans. By mistake. They operate on the wrong
    patients, prescribe the wrong drugs, and leave
    instruments inside body cavities after surgery.
    Meanwhile, hospitals spend billions on new gadgets,
    marble lobbies, and slick billboards, even as safety
    continues to be ignored. Until now. At first blush – and
    probably second – one thinks "Wow, these doctors are
    really sticking their necks out. Finally one of them has
    the guts to step out and tell the truth."

    Do not be fooled! This is "MedSpeak" at its best.

    It is remarkable that Drs. Wachter and Shojania choose to
    make no mention of – totally ignore – the 80,000 patients
    who die horrible, agonizing deaths every year from an
    infectious disease contracted during their hospital stay.
    How could this happen? Could it be this is just another
    inadvertent mistake, a mental error on their part?

    It is impractical to think that the doctors simply
    overlooked the fact that 80% of the 100,000 die each year
    from an infectious disease they contract during their
    hospital stay.

    The good doctors devote their entire 450-page book to
    describing the demise of the other 20,000, the 20% who died
    from the wrong prescription (7,000), unnecessary surgery
    (2,000) or some other medical error.

    Note: The author understands that the writing of articles
    and books may not be a consortium of individuals
    and/or entities brought together to distract
    attention away from the fact that most of the
    hospital patients – a full 80% – die from an
    infectious disease.

    However, it seems the only other logical explanation would
    be that those who wrote those books and articles are simply
    – let us say – illogical thinkers.

    It is interesting that physicians apparently lined up to
    offer predisposed, propitious comments. Though a great
    number of blurbs are offered up as testimonies of the truth
    and accuracy of the book's accountability, it is suspected
    that dozens of pages of mice-size type could have been
    filled with medical testimonials equally as positive.

    Additional thought:

    Since 80% of the 100,000 nosocomial8 deaths are
    attributable to infectious diseases, wouldn't it have made
    more sense if those original headline articles had read:

    80,000 Hospital Patients Die Every Year From Cross-
    Contaminated Infectious Diseases … another 20,000 die
    from medical mistakes

    Is this a case of lazy reporting or editorial leverage?

    End note:

    Drs. Wachter and Shojania were contacted and asked for
    their response. They had no comment.

    Fatal Probe by Will Locksley ISBN 0-9755657-0-2 Available
    from Amazon.com or your favorite local bookstore.

  9. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A wonderful example of self-promotion.

    Thank you Very much. I appreciate the compliment... but,
    what do you think about what I said? WL

    Quoted message said:

    "yelxol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Ilena
    Rose <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >Death by Medicine
    >
    >Thanks Kathi for the link!
    >
    >Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    >(quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are
    >hired by the silicone industry are hired by the
    >pharmaceutical industry too.) They are well
    >represented on Usenet, many found at this link.
    >
    >www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm
    >
    >Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    > groups, in spite of the excellent work he
    > produces and the help he has been to his
    > patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting)
    searches through the Internet (apparently on a daily
    basis for the last 5 to 6 years) in order to
    specifically argue with or simply dis those who have
    anything negative to say about the medical profession...
    yet he is not affiliated with the med. prof. Hmmm.
    Interesting.

    With regard to "Death by Medicine", it is my contention
    that attention has been diverted from the primary
    problem (percentage-wise): Death by Iatrogenic cross-
    infection.

    ...and this is not 'just death'. One who dies from an
    infectious disease dies a horrible, protracted death
    (yes, with very high medical costs).

    This is signifcant because a full 80% - 80,000 - of
    those IOM-reported 100,000 who die annually from
    hospital related "mistakes and errors" die from an
    infectious disease. That is the big story.

    Please read the Introduction to "Fatal Probe". This may
    explain it a bit better:

    Fatal Probe: Study indicates 3.3 million women are cross-
    infected by U.S. doctors each year

    INTRODUCTION

    Writers and speakers who use the words "Cover Up" or
    "Conspiracy" are often categorized as fatuous,
    outrageous, daft or just plain nuts. and, for sure, many
    are well deserving of the moniker. The common threads in
    their spurious rants are a lack of empirical foundation
    and an absence of unbiased logic.

    The author chooses not to use these inculpatory nouns,
    but does report a long list of facts that allows the
    reader to arrive at their own conclusion. an undeniable
    conclusion that there is definitely something amiss in
    the U.S. medical community.

    This book is not another report of errors or mistakes
    made by members of the U.S. medical profession that was
    emblazoned across the front pages of newspapers, exposed
    by TV networks bantered about on radio talk shows and
    now written about by dozens of physicians.

    This book does not dispassionately rehash the fact that
    most doctors make errors and mistakes1 [as in "We are
    only human."], it exposes the fact that every year a
    significant percentage of them are explicitly culpable
    for the cross-contamination of 3.3 million female
    patients2.

    SAMPLE LEAD PARAGRAPH FROM JANUARY 2000 HEADLINE
    ARTICLE:

    In a study just released, the Institute of Medicine
    (IOM) reports that every year in the U.S. 100,000
    hospital patients are being killed by medical mistakes
    and errors. The CDC says that 80% of them, or 80,000,
    die from an infectious disease, which is 4% of the 2
    million who are infected yearly.

    This is an epitome of the introductory paragraph of the
    dramatic front-page headline articles that broke in all
    national and local U.S. media3 in early 2000. Since then
    there have been dozens of books and articles written by
    doctors in which they seem to lay their souls on the
    line. or at least the image and repute of the U.S.
    medical profession in general.

    However, it turns out that this may not be the case.
    Rather than a soul-bearing acknowledgment or confession,
    the books and articles may be, in fact, a brilliantly
    laid plan to divert attention from what is apparently a
    libelous, irresponsible course of continuous actions,
    the modus operandi of the medical profession: the
    accepted use of non-sterile instruments and procedures
    during highly invasive patient examinations.

    From the cover of "Internal Bleeding", by Dr. Robert
    Wachter and Dr. Kaveh Shojania:

    Each year doctors and nurses kill nearly 100,0004
    Americans. By mistake. They operate on the wrong
    patients, prescribe the wrong drugs, and leave
    instruments inside body cavities after surgery.
    Meanwhile, hospitals spend billions on new gadgets,
    marble lobbies, and slick billboards, even as safety
    continues to be ignored. Until now. At first blush - and
    probably second - one thinks "Wow, these doctors are
    really sticking their necks out. Finally one of them has
    the guts to step out and tell the truth."

    Do not be fooled! This is "MedSpeak" at its best.

    It is remarkable that Drs. Wachter and Shojania choose
    to make no mention of - totally ignore - the 80,000
    patients who die horrible, agonizing deaths every year
    from an infectious disease contracted during their
    hospital stay. How could this happen? Could it be this
    is just another inadvertent mistake, a mental error on
    their part?

    It is impractical to think that the doctors simply
    overlooked the fact that 80% of the 100,000 die each
    year from an infectious disease they contract during
    their hospital stay.

    The good doctors devote their entire 450-page book to
    describing the demise of the other 20,000, the 20% who
    died from the wrong prescription (7,000), unnecessary
    surgery (2,000) or some other medical error.

    Note: The author understands that the writing of
    articles and books may not be a consortium of
    individuals and/or entities brought together to
    distract attention away from the fact that most
    of the hospital patients - a full 80% - die from
    an infectious disease.

    However, it seems the only other logical explanation
    would be that those who wrote those books and articles
    are simply - let us say - illogical thinkers.

    It is interesting that physicians apparently lined up to
    offer predisposed, propitious comments. Though a great
    number of blurbs are offered up as testimonies of the
    truth and accuracy of the book's accountability, it is
    suspected that dozens of pages of mice-size type could
    have been filled with medical testimonials equally as
    positive.

    Additional thought:

    Since 80% of the 100,000 nosocomial8 deaths are
    attributable to infectious diseases, wouldn't it have
    made more sense if those original headline articles
    had read:

    80,000 Hospital Patients Die Every Year From Cross-
    Contaminated Infectious Diseases
    . another 20,000 die from medical mistakes

    Is this a case of lazy reporting or editorial leverage?

    End note:

    Drs. Wachter and Shojania were contacted and asked for
    their response. They had no comment.

    Fatal Probe by Will Locksley ISBN 0-9755657-0-2
    Available from Amazon.com or your favorite local
    bookstore.

  10. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:11:32 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24,

    2004' M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

    A wonderful example of self-promotion.

    Not everyone can afford to hire shills like you and Ted
    Nidiffer etc. to promote them Barrett & "Vera Teasdale"
    Polevoy did when they sued and set up you "Ragtag Posse"
    Members to fill Usenet with their garbage.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#nana

  11. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, yelxol

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Ilena
    Rose <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >Death by Medicine
    >
    >Thanks Kathi for the link!
    >
    >Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    >(quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are
    >hired by the silicone industry are hired by the
    >pharmaceutical industry too.) They are well
    >represented on Usenet, many found at this link.
    >
    >www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm
    >
    >Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    > groups, in spite of the excellent work he produces
    > and the help he has been to his patients.

    Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting)

    Isn't it?

    Listen, Wright, it is the only thing he got right.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,
    M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004 <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t

    Quoted message said:


    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, yelxol

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...
    > In article
    > <[email hidden]>, Ilena
    > Rose <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >Death by Medicine
    > >
    > >Thanks Kathi for the link!
    > >
    > >Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    > >(quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are
    > >hired by the silicone industry are hired by the
    > >pharmaceutical industry too.) They are well
    > >represented on Usenet, many found at this link.
    > >
    > >www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm
    > >
    > >Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    > > groups, in spite of the excellent work he
    > > produces and the help he has been to his
    > > patients.
    >
    > Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago of
    > falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets, and he
    > deserves every line of it.

    It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting)

    Isn't it?

    Listen, Wright, it is the only thing he got right.

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  13. "yelxol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t


    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A wonderful example of self-promotion.

    Thank you Very much. I appreciate the compliment... but,
    what do you think about what I said?

    It was not meant as a compliment.

  14. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004 <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    yelxol <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >[email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in
    >message news:<[email hidden]-
    >gy.com>...
    >> In article
    >> <[email hidden]>, Ilena
    >> Rose <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >Death by Medicine
    >> >
    >> >Thanks Kathi for the link!
    >> >
    >> >Unfortunately, the same Front Groups
    >> >(quackwatch.com/acsh.org/junkscience.com) that are
    >> >hired by the silicone industry are hired by the
    >> >pharmaceutical industry too.)


    They

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >are well represented on Usenet, many found at this
    >> >link.
    >> >
    >> >www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm
    >> >
    >> >Dr. Mercola has been horribly harassed by the same
    >> > groups, in spite


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >the excellent work he produces and the help he has
    >> >been to his patients.
    >>
    >> Mercola's web site is an abomination and a farrago
    >> of falsehoods. He's worked for the abuse he gets,
    >> and he deserves every line of it.
    >
    >It is indeed interesting that Mr. Wright (fitting)

    Isn't it?

    Listen, Wright, it is the only thing he got right.

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    Not if it is a 24 hour digital.

  15. On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:13:49 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25,

    2004' M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:


    "yelxol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t


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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A wonderful example of self-promotion.

    Thank you Very much. I appreciate the compliment... but,
    what do you think about what I said?

    It was not meant as a compliment.

    Never saw failed attorney and Barrett/Polevoy Flack
    "think" ...

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html

  16. "Coleah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:eMYCc.109156$eu.62375@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilena Rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:13:49 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
    June 25, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 06-25-

    Quoted message said:


    "yelxol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
    [email hidden]...
    > "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    > P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<8qAC-
    [email hidden]>...
    > > A wonderful example of self-promotion.
    > >
    >
    > Thank you Very much. I appreciate the compliment...
    > but, what do you think about what I said?

    It was not meant as a compliment.

    Never saw failed attorney and Barrett/Polevoy Flack
    "think" ...


    Now, just incase you need more examples of the loving,
    caring support work Ilena has done in the name of women
    harmed by silicone breast implants, the following clippits
    are from her postings of the past:

    1) "YOU DISGUSTING FAT, UGLY PIGFACE"--Ilena Rosenthal
    sending messages of love thru email to an implant
    survivor.


    s.google.com/groups?q=UGLY+PIGFACE+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    1204021607460001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=26

    Quoted message said:

    2) "That wasn't "love" I was sending to your fellow
    disgusting fellow Networker friend, [implanted woman]
    ... the ugliest, most vile creature God ever created,
    Traitor to the Implanted Women."--Ilena Rosenthal


    wasn%27t+%22love%22+I+was+sending++group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&scoring=d&selm=ilena-
    2901020759070001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=9

    Quoted message said:

    3) "Previous to telling her to "[censored] OFF" "--Ilena
    Rosenthal expressing loving thoughts about a breast

    implant woman.


    oups?q=Previous+to+telling+her+to++group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&scoring=d&selm=9713e020.03

    Quoted message said:

    12201220.513cc070%40posting.google.com&rnum=9

    4) "The morning I sent her the [censored] off message ..."--
    Ilena Rosenthal, Director of The Humantics

    Foundation.


    roups?q=The+morning+I+sent+her+the+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&scoring=d&selm=19faaec.0312

    Quoted message said:

    191034.6138c21d%40posting.google.com&rnum=15

    5) "The quotes I did say were not with "love'"--Ilena
    Rosenthal, Director


    of

    Quoted message said:

    The Humantics Foundation.


    he+quotes+I+did+say+were+not+with++group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&scoring=d&selm=9713e020.0312201220.513cc070%4-
    0posting.google.com&rnum=9

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    around."-- Ilena

    Rosenthal pushing her mentor, Anthony Zaffuto's book,
    "Solo Male Ecstasy"


    (A

    Quoted message said:

    guide to masturbation

    techniques).

    Quoted message said:

    7) ".....while doing a Circle Jerk Congratulations to
    each other on how smart they are."-- More Ilena

    Roshenthal thoughts of masturbation techniques.


    groups.google.comgroups
    1407011252350001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com

    Quoted message said:

    8) "THE WORSE THING THAT DR DOBKE EVER DID WAS KEEP YOU
    ALIVE"--Ilena Rosenthal, sensitive and caring director
    of Humantics Foundation.


    THE+WORSE+THING+THAT+DR+DOBKE+EVER+DID+WAS&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&selm=ilena-0509010902340001%4024-25-201-
    231.san.rr.com&rnum=15

    Quoted message said:

    9) "One more of these Missives with your lies and i'll
    call David and the rest of your sons "-- Ilena
    Rosenthal, in a fit of humanitarianism.


    =One+more+of+these+Missives+with+your+lies&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&selm=ilena-2108011523540001%4024-25-201-231.s

    Quoted message said:

    an.rr.com&rnum=83

    10) "Everyone got to see that you have the fashion sense
    of a blind, homeless, beggar"--Ilena Rosenthall
    commenting on the appearance of a breast implant
    survivor, shortly after Ilena herself, wore the same
    "flower child" dress for two consecutive days, at the
    Institute of Medicine (IOM) hearings at the National
    Academy of Sciences in Washington DC.


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    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF8&safe=active&selm=ilena-
    2505002224430001%40dt012na9.san.rr.com&rnum=5

    Quoted message said:

    11) "Your husband has to wake up to you every morning ~
    Blech!"--Ilena Rosenthal, in the midst of a tirade
    with a breast implanted woman.


    +have+the+fashion+sense+of+a+blind+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&selm=ilena-
    2505002224430001%40dt012na9.san.rr.com&rnum=5

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Anthony Zafuto's books & videos, "Solo Male Ecstasy,"
    and/or "The Complete Guide to Oral Lovemaking."

    13) "i never used vulgar language on Trash Talk"--Ilena
    Rosenthal in the midst of forgetfulness, or having a
    'senior' moment.


    used+vulgar+language+on+Trash+Talk+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&selm=20000627011650.15983.00005025%40nso-
    fk.aol.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    14) "Place me in the company of those who seek the Truth,
    and deliver me from those who have found it." -- Ilena
    Rose (talk.atheism 1995)


    m/groups?q=those+who+have+found+it+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5 &as_miny=1981&-
    as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=20010716030030.04179-
    .00 001213%40nso-fp.aol.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    15) "Thank God I'm an atheist."--Ilena Rose


    le.com/groups?q=Thank+God+I%27m+an+atheist&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&a-
    s_maxd=14&as_ma

    Quoted message said:


    xm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-1608012252560001%4024-25-201-
    231.san.rr.com&rnu

    Quoted message said:

    m=2

    16) "i don't want him, or his a$$ mooning me ~ does she
    really find this beneficial to the women harmed by implants?"--
    Ilena Rosenthal in the midst of fantacizing about the
    husband of a breast implanted woman.


    ups.google.com/groups?q=mooning+me+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    1806000212140001%40dt011n39.san.rr.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    17) "O'Leary too, couldn't control his outbursts about me
    ... even in

    Quoted message said:

    nothings, whispered in her ear.


    27t+control+his+outbursts+about+me+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    1706011506210001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    18) "They both have spouses ... yet they can't stop their
    obsessions of me."--Ilena Rosenthal enraptured by a
    spell of Narcissism.


    they+can%27t+stop+their+obsessions+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    1706011506210001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com&rnum=1

    Quoted message said:

    19)"...they can spend 6 years snooping into my life,
    making up lies about me, telling everyone I am a fraud
    and ripping off women I love, posting vast amounts of
    Propaganda..."--Ilena Rosenthal, Dating services; bar
    maid; Pepper Spray salesperson; counterfit bill
    detector salesperson; timeshare slammer; business
    partner of Anthony Zaffuto (founder of Calvary Boys
    Ranch/which became Teens in Trouble/which became
    Humantics Foundation), and the author of books &
    videos, "Solo Male Ecstasy," and/or "The Complete Guide
    to Oral Lovemaking."


    ?q=they+can+spend+6+years+snooping+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    1706011047470001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com&rnum=3

    Quoted message said:

    20) "Show the world how brilliant the "Implanted Leaders"
    better known as Toads on Ritalin are ..." Ilena
    Rosenthal, best damned advocate on the planet.


    q=Show+the+world+how+brilliant+the+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    0909011256590001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com&rnum=8

    Quoted message said:

    21) "I have never asked a penny for information ... and
    have provided freely for all ... even to rich [censored]
    who never sent me a penny"--Ilena Rosenthal, sensitive
    and caring director of Humantics Foundation.


    o+rich+[censored]+who+never+sent+me+a+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    0609012018140001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com&rnum=1

    Quoted message said:

    22) "calling the SS (Susan Schaezler)"an implant
    survivor" is like describing [censored] as a vegetarian."--
    Ilena Rosenthal, sensitive 'self-appointed' advocate
    for breast implant victims.


    =describing+[censored]+as+a+vegetarian+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12
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    0809011 941430001%4024-25-201-231.san.rr.com&rnum=7

    Quoted message said:

    23) "sounds like Schaezler / O'Leary donkey feces!"--Ilena
    Rosenthal, while cleaning out her ears, and attempting
    to wake up and smell the coffee.


    com/groups?q=sounds+like+Schaezler+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    2901021013290001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=13

    Quoted message said:

    24) "you represent the lowest, most greedy and selfish,
    bought off mouths for the silicone cartel."--Ilena
    Rosenthal speaking of breast implant victims who had
    settled with the manufacturers for low amounts, and
    had apparently not sent in a portion to answer the
    pandering needs of Ilena.

    25) "You think that gives you the right to be a nosey
    porker and meddle into other people's lives."--Ilena
    Rosenthal responsing to questions about the finances
    of her Foundation.

    26) "ask for the 90th time ... none of my finances is YOUR
    busy body business."--Ilena Rosenthal again refusing
    to answer questions surrounding the finances of her
    Foundation.


    com/groups?q=ask+for+the+90th+time+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&a-
    s_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=20040220002342.09437.-
    00000055%40mbm12.aol.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    27) "God help the implanted women when they have bought
    off busybody nosey porkers like Moral Guardian Myrl to
    lead them."--Ilena Rosenthal in total confusion over
    what advocacy is all about.


    when+they+have+bought+off+busybody+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=ilena-
    3001021926170001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=1

    Quoted message said:

    28) "thanks ... better than you "implanted support
    leaders" who show your colours as greedy, selfish,
    lying, deceitful, Porno Posting Nutcases!"--Ilena
    Rosenthal smearing all implant support leaders
    (again), because they continue to read about and post
    Humantics Foundation, CEO, Anthony Zaffuto's
    masturbation self-help literature.


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    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
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    0102021152040001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    29) "You look like another crazy implant woman now"--Ilena
    Rosenthal enhancing the Nutz & [censored] image of BI
    women.


    k+like+another+crazy+implant+woman+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as

    Quoted message said:


    _mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_max-
    y=2004&selm=ilena

    Quoted message said:

    -0302022112390001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=3

    30) "you never have had the courtesy of donating even one
    penny for all my time with you"-- Ilena Rosenthal
    wondering why she gets so few donations.


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    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
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    0502021348110001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=5

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    messed up."--Ilena Rosenthal (Gaia20000) blaming BI women
    for her dowdy appearance.

    Quoted message said:

    32) "I will continue to try to find someone in her family
    who has some control over her."--Ilena Rosenthal
    threatens harrassment.


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    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=active &as_drrb=b&as_mind=1-
    2&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=20 04&selm=ilena-
    2406002312080001%40dt011n39.san.rr.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    33) "here ... this is something you can relate to ...
    filthy websites with augmented women that have
    EVERYTHING to do with you and Schaezler and NOTHING to
    do with me or anyone that I know."--Ilena Rosenthal
    saying "filthy" and "augmented" are connected.


    hat+have+EVERYTHING+to+do+with+you+group:alt.support.breast-
    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&as

    Quoted message said:


    _drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_max-
    m=6&as_maxy=2004&

    Quoted message said:

    selm=ilena-0404020940360001%40dt011n65.san.rr.com&rnum=1

    34) "... may you rot in Hell covered in leaked out
    silicone for that."--Ilena Rosenthal to a implant
    survivor.


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    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&a-
    s_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=19faaec.0312180749.2d-
    10cd55%40posting.google.com&rnum=2

    Quoted message said:

    35) "Disgusting liar you are."--Ilena Rosenthal (favorite
    word=Liar)


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    implant&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&safe=active&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&a-
    s_maxd=14&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&selm=19faaec.0312181017.35-
    01b279%40posting.google.com&rnum=4

    Quoted message said:


    36) "You idiot ditz ... in your zeal to make more threats
    against me ... you exposed your Pantie Liners"--More
    from Ilena Rosenthal posting in her offical capacity
    of Director of a Non-profit organization.


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    6r3o6d0v1nt%404ax.com&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dalt.support.breast-
    implant%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den

    Quoted message said:



    So what? She is still a much higher quality
    woman than you are.

  17. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    So what? She is still a much higher quality
    woman than you


    are.

    You installed your quality meter backwards.

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