Dear Velonews....

Earl said:

Thank you for the video page!
http://www.velonews.com/vntv/

BUT... You might want to test it.
Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.

on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine

as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet

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"Earl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Thank you for the video page!
http://www.velonews.com/vntv/

BUT... You might want to test it.
Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or
graphics.

I'm assuming you are aware of www.cycling.tv ??? I have not tried it in
either FF or NS.

-p

Earl said:

Quoted message said:

BUT... You might want to test it.
Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.

Davey Crockett said:

on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine

as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet

I think there is a xine plugin for firefox as well.

Donald Munro said:

Earl said:

Quoted message said:

BUT... You might want to test it.
Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.

Davey Crockett said:

on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine

as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet

I think there is a xine plugin for firefox as well.

Well yes, it's in fact the Nutscrape xine plugin I'm using with Opera

But in fact I don't use X all that much and am contemplating buying a
real TV set and getting a feed for the Giro since I'm going to be
travelling all the month of April and it won't be worth the expense
until I get back.

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Donald Munro said:

Earl said:

Quoted message said:

BUT... You might want to test it.
Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.

Davey Crockett said:

on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine

as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet

I think there is a xine plugin for firefox as well.

I guess the guy is a Windoze user, but I looked at Failfox and
Blunderbird and gave them a _JunkWare_ rating compared with Opera and
Gnus although they are very popular

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Quoted message said:

I guess the guy is a Windoze user, but I looked at Failfox and
Blunderbird and gave them a _JunkWare_ rating compared with Opera and
Gnus although they are very popular

I gave up on Opera as it kept CRASHING.
IT was worse than Explorer. FireFox has
been very stable in comparison.

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Davey Crockett said:

Donald Munro said:

Earl said:

> BUT... You might want to test it.
> Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.

Davey Crockett said:

on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine

as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet

I think there is a xine plugin for firefox as well.

I guess the guy is a Windoze user, but I looked at Failfox and
Blunderbird and gave them a _JunkWare_ rating compared with Opera and
Gnus although they are very popular

Irregardless of the fact that your Cred-O-Meter has achieved 1995 Riis
like levels Velonews has chosen to release a cool new on-line feature
thats excludes Macs, *nix and all leading non IE browsers. That's just
silly in this day and age. Visitors should let them know about it. Or as
normal degenerate into the "I'm running my custom Debian build on an
Xbox 360 over a satellite feed while wearing a full skin suit" type
pissing match which simply reaffirms their choice.

I'm use a browser that doesn't work on the Velonews video site. It
happens to be the second most popular web browser in the world. Please
support it if possible! Thank you, long time viewer supporter and
subscriber.

"Earl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Thank you for the video page!
http://www.velonews.com/vntv/

BUT... You might want to test it.
Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or
graphics.

Am I missing something about this? I get a bunch of upcoming things but
the featured video shows nothing. And here I was getting all excited
when I read this!

🙂

-S-

Earl said:

Davey Crockett said:

Donald Munro said:

Earl wrote:
>> BUT... You might want to test it.
>> Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.
Davey Crockett wrote:
> on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine
>
> as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet
I think there is a xine plugin for firefox as well.

I guess the guy is a Windoze user, but I looked at Failfox and
Blunderbird and gave them a _JunkWare_ rating compared with Opera and
Gnus although they are very popular

Irregardless of the fact that your Cred-O-Meter has achieved 1995 Riis
like levels Velonews has chosen to release a cool new on-line feature
thats excludes Macs, *nix and all leading non IE browsers.

I told you it works on a *nix box with a xine plugin insofar as the
spam/demo was concerned

Quoted message said:

That's just
silly in this day and age. Visitors should let them know about it. Or
as normal degenerate into the "I'm running my custom Debian build on
an Xbox 360 over a satellite feed while wearing a full skin suit" type
pissing match which simply reaffirms their choice.

If you really want to use a Piece of [censored] operating system with a
Piece of [censored] Browser that uses a 10 years out of date Gecko rendering
engine, that's your problem

Quoted message said:

I'm use a browser that doesn't work on the Velonews video site. It
happens to be the second most popular web browser in the world. Please
support it if possible! Thank you, long time viewer supporter and
subscriber.

Besides, there isn't a self respecting bikie who wouldn't [censored] on Velo
News for the [censored] they pulled on VeloNet 10 and a bit years ago

And apart from trying the site you gave, I'll probably never go there
again

[QUOTE]
VELONET TRADEMARK THREATENED!

Greetings VeloNet Lovers,

The legal representatives of Inside Communications, publishers of
VELONEWS and Inside Triathlon, have written to me insisting that we
cease to use the VeloNet trademark to describe the online services
provided on cycling.org. They claim that they are unaware of any
other "bicycling related product, publication, or company using VELO
alone or in combination with other elements or words."
Consequently, my use of the term VeloNet "dilutes the
distinctiveness of Inside Communications' family of trademarks and
creates the erroneous impression among consumers and others in the
industry that there is some relationship between you and your
VeloNet service and Inside Communications and/or its various
publications."

As most of you know, VeloNet is a purely volunteer operation
managed in my spare time. No money is charged for any of the
services provided and no sponsorship is sought or
accepted. Moreover, I recently declined an offer from a commercial
online service to buy the VeloNet trademark.

I have nothing against the folks at VELONEWS and Inside Triathlon
and sincerely hope that we can resolve this issue amicably. At the same
time, given the time I have put into the VeloNet project, and the
usefulness it has provided to tens of thousands of cyber-cyclists,
I am reluctant to cave into their legal posturing.

If you are a copyright lawyer, or have legal experience in the
field of trademarks and copyrights, I would greatly appreciate your
advice in this matter.
[END QUOTE]

But they learned a good lesson. 20,000 of us unsubscribed within
minutes of reading the above missive from Patrick Goebel and backed
off from their claim, publishing a half hearted apology in their next
edition

Filthy Stinking Money Grubbing Pigs - That's VeloNews for you

BOYCOTT VELONEWS - DON'T READ IT
q
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Davey Crockett said:

Earl <[email hidden]> writes:

Davey Crockett said:

Besides, there isn't a self respecting bikie who wouldn't [censored] on Velo
News for the [censored] they pulled on VeloNet 10 and a bit years ago

Quoted message said:

But they learned a good lesson. 20,000 of us unsubscribed within
minutes of reading the above missive from Patrick Goebel and backed
off from their claim, publishing a half hearted apology in their next
edition

Filthy Stinking Money Grubbing Pigs - That's VeloNews for you

BOYCOTT VELONEWS - DON'T READ IT

Pretty typical behaviour for an american corporation.

Bit tough for them that the environment in europe doesn't make it as easy
to bribe lawmakers as it does in the US where most of the congressman and
senators seem to be on the take, so no software patents yet. But I suppose
microshit and co are working on buying a few more votes like they already
did with the irish.

Donald Munro said:

Pretty typical behaviour for an american corporation.

Bit tough for them that the environment in europe doesn't make it as easy
to bribe lawmakers as it does in the US where most of the congressman and
senators seem to be on the take, so no software patents yet. But I suppose
microshit and co are working on buying a few more votes like they already
did with the irish.

The problem with software patents is that most folks simply do not
understand what is involved.

Luckily more and more governments and large corporations are waking up
to what Microsoft is up to

Jeepers, if he could, Gates would even copyright "Hello World"

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http://brevets-logiciels.info/

[quote="Davey Crockett"]

Earl said:

Davey Crockett said:

Donald Munro <[email hidden]> writes:

> Earl wrote:
>>> BUT... You might want to test it.
>>> Fails in Firefox 1.5 and in Nutscrape I got sound but no video or graphics.
> Davey Crockett wrote:
>> on a *nix box it plays the spam ok using xine
>>
>> as for the rest, the races haven't been run yet
> I think there is a xine plugin for firefox as well.
I guess the guy is a Windoze user, but I looked at Failfox and
Blunderbird and gave them a _JunkWare_ rating compared with Opera and
Gnus although they are very popular

Irregardless of the fact that your Cred-O-Meter has achieved 1995 Riis
like levels Velonews has chosen to release a cool new on-line feature
thats excludes Macs, *nix and all leading non IE browsers.

Quoted message said:

That's just
silly in this day and age. Visitors should let them know about it. Or
as normal degenerate into the "I'm running my custom Debian build on
an Xbox 360 over a satellite feed while wearing a full skin suit" type
pissing match which simply reaffirms their choice.

Quoted message said:

I'm use a browser that doesn't work on the Velonews video site. It
happens to be the second most popular web browser in the world. Please
support it if possible! Thank you, long time viewer supporter and
subscriber.

Quoted post said:

VELONET TRADEMARK THREATENED!

Greetings VeloNet Lovers,

The legal representatives of Inside Communications, publishers of
VELONEWS and Inside Triathlon, have written to me insisting that we
cease to use the VeloNet trademark to describe the online services
provided on cycling.org. They claim that they are unaware of any
other "bicycling related product, publication, or company using VELO
alone or in combination with other elements or words."
Consequently, my use of the term VeloNet "dilutes the
distinctiveness of Inside Communications' family of trademarks and
creates the erroneous impression among consumers and others in the
industry that there is some relationship between you and your
VeloNet service and Inside Communications and/or its various
publications."

As most of you know, VeloNet is a purely volunteer operation
managed in my spare time. No money is charged for any of the
services provided and no sponsorship is sought or
accepted. Moreover, I recently declined an offer from a commercial
online service to buy the VeloNet trademark.

I have nothing against the folks at VELONEWS and Inside Triathlon
and sincerely hope that we can resolve this issue amicably. At the same
time, given the time I have put into the VeloNet project, and the
usefulness it has provided to tens of thousands of cyber-cyclists,
I am reluctant to cave into their legal posturing.

If you are a copyright lawyer, or have legal experience in the
field of trademarks and copyrights, I would greatly appreciate your
advice in this matter.
[END QUOTE]

But they learned a good lesson. 20,000 of us unsubscribed within
minutes of reading the above missive from Patrick Goebel and backed
off from their claim, publishing a half hearted apology in their next
edition

Filthy Stinking Money Grubbing Pigs - That's VeloNews for you

BOYCOTT VELONEWS - DON'T READ IT
q

Davey Crockett said:

Donald Munro said:

Pretty typical behaviour for an american corporation.

Bit tough for them that the environment in europe doesn't make it as easy
to bribe lawmakers as it does in the US where most of the congressman and
senators seem to be on the take, so no software patents yet. But I suppose
microshit and co are working on buying a few more votes like they already
did with the irish.

The problem with software patents is that most folks simply do not
understand what is involved.

Luckily more and more governments and large corporations are waking up
to what Microsoft is up to

Jeepers, if he could, Gates would even copyright "Hello World"

Billy will have to fight George Bush, the radical republicans and the
religious right for the rights to "Hello World".

It is sad to have to see Euros be the only ones with the balls to
challenge US megacorp & political stupidity.
Like this recent DRM related iTunes challenge from France.
Apple quote: "The French implementation of the EU Copyright Directive
will result in state-sponsored piracy"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060322-6434.html

Kick butt music site where you actually own the music you buy not Apple
or Microsoft
http://www.emusic.com/

Oh... uh bike racing...
Looks like Velonews reads this group or got other feedback. The video
page has been revised to nothing but text (Works in Firefox 😉
http://www.velonews.com/vntv/

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

Jeepers, if he could, Gates would even copyright "Hello World"

Earl said:

Billy will have to fight George Bush, the radical republicans and the
religious right for the rights to "Hello World".

Not to mention Kernigan and Ritchie.

Earl said:

Oh... uh bike racing...
Looks like Velonews reads this group or got other feedback. The video
page has been revised to nothing but text (Works in Firefox 😉
http://www.velonews.com/vntv/

Yes, you are right

I just checked again with Opera, Firefox and Mozilla and none worked
whereas Opera brought the short spam demo up previously by launching
the xine Netscape plugin - I don't actually have NS but the plugins
all (mostly) work with Opera

To check it, I phoned a friend who confirmed that it didn't work with
Windo$e either so they must have taken that link or chunk of code out
for a while

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Earl said:

I'd forgotten about that, maybe they were getting leadership tips from
Cycling USA staff? Personally I unsubscribed from Velonews in like
1987 or so when they went from a good read to a crappy one. Was a
really good read for a time there. I currently go to the Velonews site
for one reason and one reason only - the images. The site itself I
find lacking in many ways.

Typical Steamroller Capitalism

Sheesh, they should have done at least a rudimentary survey to
determine how many VeloNetterz actually subscribed to VN

Just about anybody who could afford it was subscribed

Quoted message said:

I view the site using Firefox on Windows (from my memory stick, just
like Thunderbird), Firefox on OSX and Firefox on my Linux laptop
(Ubuntu which I'll go out on a limb and assume you already hate for at
least 22 reasons). All 3 seem to work amazingly well, it's OS heaven
right now like never before. The basic diff for me is Linux's lack of
plug n play and Shockwave support which means I get to do a lot of
work setting up my families 3 Linux laptops, I have to knock down my
Wireless speed and encryption, and the kids don't get to use their
Shockwave dependent educational websites they can choose Firefox n
Windows or OSX for dat (yes I already know, Macromedia is evil, second
only to Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc etc.).

I'm a bit of a purist and seldom use X as I said before, but Opera
works well on Windo$e as I set it up for my kids although it is a bit
of a culture shock and needs quite a bit of reading and
experimentation before you get up to speed

On MM go here and add your name

http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html

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