Davis, CA

"Matt O'Toole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zqFsa.8725

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The sick thing about this is, UC students are generally middle-class or higher, and if they're not
already they will be. IOW, they don't need to be ripping off bikes and bike parts. The same thing
happens at UC Irvine, and USC, where tuition is over $20k a year. This doesn't reflect well on the
ethics of today's college students.

More than likely it isn't the students. Theives are attracted to places where they can blend in,
there is plenty of stuff to steal, and it is easy to get the stuff out of town.

-Buck

"Buck" <j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m> wrote in message
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"Matt O'Toole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zqFsa.8725

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The sick thing about this is, UC students are generally middle-class or higher, and if they're
not already they will be. IOW, they don't need to be ripping off bikes and bike parts. The same
thing happens at UC Irvine, and USC, where tuition is over $20k a year. This doesn't reflect
well on the ethics of today's college students.

More than likely it isn't the students. Theives are attracted to places where they can blend in,
there is plenty of stuff to steal, and it is easy to get the stuff out of town.

Not to mention the way that most students are very casual in the way that they secure their goods.

"Luigi de Guzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Not to mention the way that most students are very casual

in the way

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that they secure their goods.

Why should they have to be otherwise?

Matt O.

"Buck" <j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m> wrote in message
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"Matt O'Toole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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The sick thing about this is, UC students are generally middle-class or higher, and if they're
not already they

will

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be. IOW, they don't need to be ripping off bikes and

bike

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parts. The same thing happens at UC Irvine, and USC,

where

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tuition is over $20k a year. This doesn't reflect well

on

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the ethics of today's college students.

More than likely it isn't the students. Theives are

attracted to places

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where they can blend in, there is plenty of stuff to

steal, and it is easy

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to get the stuff out of town.

I remember several major student-run bike theft rings being busted over the years. It *is* students.

Matt O.

"Matt O'Toole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Luigi de Guzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Not to mention the way that most students are very casual

in the way

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that they secure their goods.

Why should they have to be otherwise?

So they don't get them stolen?

Dave

"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]>

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I was downtown (Philly) a couple days ago and was embarassed at the cyclists who blew through
stoplights. Not only is it stupid-dangerous, but it cements in the minds of drivers that cyclists
are not real traffic, since they don't think of themselves as such.

Seattle also has more than it's share of "stupid-dangerous" cyclists. And you're right-on it
"cements in the minds of drivers that cyclists are not "real traffiic".

The people that witness the lame cycylists are the very people that approprate, (vote) for funds to
improve roads/signage/etc. for cyclists. Needless to say all the community is hurt by the "stupid
dangerous" cyclists.

fwiw

Tickets are a very common occurance, especially in the fall quarter with all the new students. There
is also an abundance of bike vs. bike crashes. Where else do you ride to class in a peloton? Davis
was built for bicycles. Bicycle traffic in Davis is real traffic, and the police enforce laws just
as they do for other vehicles. It's better for us all that way.

I had a roommate at UCD many years ago who was riding his bike to class on his first day. He was
riding with no hands through a point where two trails merged. He sideswiped a merging cyclist and
knocked him sprawling into the bushes, books flying everywhere. When he got to class, he found the
same guy at the podium getting ready to deliver his first lecture.

Bruce Finley Citizen, Republic of Davis

KBH <[email hidden]> wrote:
: Maybe OT, but I have a friend who moved from Maine to Davis, CA and his welcome was a ticket for
: riding through a stop sign.

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