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  1. Hi folks,
    im starting road racing for the first time after a few years with my MTB, I have a deal and its possibly great or possibly a lemon!!

    The bike is called a Da Vinci 7005v, its a full aluminum frame (it says 7005 series heat treated aluminum frame) with carbon forks and Gipiemme wheels. The guy in the shop (and i will say, fair props to him, he's straight up and he knows his stuff) says that these wheels are a deep set wheel and are above average for a road bike of this kind. says thats a major advantage when you're big like me as it tries to minimize buckling etc. He has offered to set me up on it and has given me a years service and fitting on it. Its completely a plain black frame with a few stickers on but they look a bit odd-like a bit of an after thought so i would probably look to take them off or snazz it up just a little myself but we'll see. They give the impression its italian made--There is a little Italia flag on the front and the same italian colours are worked into the Da Vinci sticker on the frame. (the main point is there's no fancy paintjob!) But it defo is the full sora groupset-everything from brakes to gears, all mechs etc. There is nothing about this bike online-it doesn't look like its a brand that exists at this spec!? (there is a davinci custom bike builder but this isnt that!!!)

    In short, this looks like a no-name 59cm aluminum frame bike with carbon forks, full sora groupset and decent wheels with fitting and maintenance for a year! (it also comes with pedals so thats another 50 bucks saved apparently!!)

    My main question would be-would you reckon its a decent buy as a starter bike for 795 euro in comparison to your Treks, Cubes, Spcialised, Giants etc at the same price bracket and spec!??😕
    I have a pic but its off the phone so...if you wanna look let me know but not sure how much help it could be?!

    Thanks in advance for any advice folks,

    Al

  2. snapster said:

    Hi folks,
    im starting road racing for the first time after a few years with my MTB, I have a deal and its possibly great or possibly a lemon!!

    The bike is called a Da Vinci 7005v,.........

    My main question would be-would you reckon its a decent buy as a starter bike for 795 euro in comparison to your Treks, Cubes, Spcialised, Giants etc at the same price bracket and spec!??😕
    I have a pic but its off the phone so...if you wanna look let me know but not sure how much help it could be?!

    Thanks in advance for any advice folks.

    That's a lot of dosh, I think to put in a bike on which you're going to start racing. Honestly, you should pick up any cheap aluminum frame. Used CAAD's are a perfect example. By putting together a bike of less expensive bits/used bits, you might save yourself from some pain later. That is as your learning the race thing, you won't be crashing an expensive ride.

  3. Sorry i should have said, outside of the bike and my questions over what it is or if its a lemon-im in Ireland and will be availing of a tax free cycle to work scheme and this package qualifies for it. (I can buy any bike up to €1000 with this scheme and get 42.5% off.

    I am loooking to start duathalons and triathalons so this is a competition pack and there is gear with it plus a discount.
    This is the full package-

    Davinci Bike 7005v series race bike
    Profile Design Tri Bars
    Bell Solar Helmet or equivalent
    Shimano PDR540 Pedals or equivalent
    Shimano Road Shoes or equivalent
    BBB Mini Pump
    BBB Saddle Bag
    BBB Mini Tool
    Bottle and Cage
    Tyre Levers
    Vittoria Lightweight Tube
    Cycling Shorts and Jersey
    (or tri shorts and top)

    Total Price 1106.50 Euro
    You Pay 999.99
    You Save 106.51 Euro

    And then i get a tax free discount with the cycle to work scheme so i will be getting the whole lot for approx €570-i still want to make sure its the right bike though!!!
    Would it still be a benifit to build my own??
    Thanks for the help alienator!

    A

  4. snapster said:

    ...I am loooking to start duathalons and triathalons ...Profile Design Tri Bars ...

    The real question you should be asking is whether the bike's geometry is standard road or tri/TT bike angles? If you're going to primarily ride this with the profile bars and it's primary function is racing duathlons and tris then you're gonna want a bike built to be ridden in that position which generally means steeper seat tube angles, shorter top tubes and weight distribution tailored to riding in an aero position. You can certainly do fine with a road bike and clip on bars, but if you intend to permanently mount the aero bars and are targeting solo events you might as well start with a bike intended for that purpose.

  5. cyclissimo said:

    The real question you should be asking is whether the bike's geometry is standard road or tri/TT bike angles? If you're going to primarily ride this with the profile bars and it's primary function is racing duathlons and tris then you're gonna want a bike built to be ridden in that position which generally means steeper seat tube angles, shorter top tubes and weight distribution tailored to riding in an aero position. You can certainly do fine with a road bike and clip on bars, but if you intend to permanently mount the aero bars and are targeting solo events you might as well start with a bike intended for that purpose.

    The guy mentioned that (yes i am a complete newb with this really!) Anyway, he said that he would fully fit me on the bike (he has a professional bike fitting service) for road racing and I would need to go and get used to the bike first and train and basically learn how to cycle a road bike, and then when i had a triathlon or duathlon coming up he will refit me for competing in with the tri bars so they wont be a pernament fixture-they'll just be for the events. The owner is a long distance runner and is BIG into the tri and dual events-he's tailored his whole shop for them! he's offered that service with bike maintenance (should i need it) free for a full year and i would get this on any bike i buy from him!
    Really i dont expect to be doing a tri or dual for a bit as i have to really catch up on the swim and cycle sections but im on the swim already! I have an image of the bike uploaded, its the regular road shape and if i could get by with it then...? How important is a no name frame with a new bike?

    Thanks Cyclissimo,
    A

    [IMG]cyclingforums.comsnapster albums da vinci picture166 dsc00471.html[/IMG]

  6. snapster said:

    Really i dont expect to be doing a tri or dual for a bit as i have to really catch up on the swim and cycle sections but im on the swim already! I have an image of the bike uploaded, its the regular road shape and if i could get by with it then...? How important is a no name frame with a new bike?

    First, I'd say the right thing is to get fitted for regular road riding as opposed to a tri fit. On aero bars, you need to be competent with bike control. Also, a tri fit requires a bit of flexibility you may not have or be accustomed to.

    The name on the frame isn't really important. What matters most is your fit on the bike. Marketeers will tell you about all sorts of amazing things their bikes can allegedly do (Read a few Cervelo ads for examples), but the fact is it's nearly all BS or nearly irrelevant to bike performance.

    Have you had any test ride on the bike? If not take one.

  7. alienator said:

    First, I'd say the right thing is to get fitted for regular road riding as opposed to a tri fit. On aero bars, you need to be competent with bike control. Also, a tri fit requires a bit of flexibility you may not have or be accustomed to.

    The name on the frame isn't really important. What matters most is your fit on the bike. Marketeers will tell you about all sorts of amazing things their bikes can allegedly do (Read a few Cervelo ads for examples), but the fact is it's nearly all BS or nearly irrelevant to bike performance.

    Have you had any test ride on the bike? If not take one.

    cyclingforums.comsnapster albums da vinci picture166 dsc00471.html

    yeah think i will-might pop back over there this evening! am i just looking for comfort/feel on a test ride or should i take note of anything else!??

  8. snapster said:

    Hi folks,
    im starting road racing for the first time after a few years with my MTB, I have a deal and its possibly great or possibly a lemon!!

    The bike is called a Da Vinci 7005v, its a full aluminum frame (it says 7005 series heat treated aluminum frame) with carbon forks and Gipiemme wheels. The guy in the shop (and i will say, fair props to him, he's straight up and he knows his stuff) says that these wheels are a deep set wheel and are above average for a road bike of this kind. says thats a major advantage when you're big like me as it tries to minimize buckling etc. He has offered to set me up on it and has given me a years service and fitting on it. Its completely a plain black frame with a few stickers on but they look a bit odd-like a bit of an after thought so i would probably look to take them off or snazz it up just a little myself but we'll see. They give the impression its italian made--There is a little Italia flag on the front and the same italian colours are worked into the Da Vinci sticker on the frame. (the main point is there's no fancy paintjob!) But it defo is the full sora groupset-everything from brakes to gears, all mechs etc. There is nothing about this bike online-it doesn't look like its a brand that exists at this spec!? (there is a davinci custom bike builder but this isnt that!!!)

    In short, this looks like a no-name 59cm aluminum frame bike with carbon forks, full sora groupset and decent wheels with fitting and maintenance for a year! (it also comes with pedals so thats another 50 bucks saved apparently!!)

    My main question would be-would you reckon its a decent buy as a starter bike for 795 euro in comparison to your Treks, Cubes, Spcialised, Giants etc at the same price bracket and spec!??😕
    I have a pic but its off the phone so...if you wanna look let me know but not sure how much help it could be?!

    Thanks in advance for any advice folks,

    Al


    A friend of mine just bought a devinci bike, 100% Canadian made. Spelled, Devinci. Is this what your looking at? Devinci Bikes - 100% Canadian - 2009 AM, DJ and DH Bikes - Pinkbike.com

  9. That;s what i was thinking too. But from looking at the pic he posted. It's definitely spelled Da Vinci...not the cdn company Devinci.

  10. That for sure isn't a Devinci bike. The tubes and logos would be all wrong. Must be another small company with a similar name.

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