I had never realised it - they're illegal in my country, although for completely wrong reasons - but those opaque/darkened windscreens are a damn danger for a cyclist. There is no way to understand whether the bloke driving the car has actually seen me, no way to establish eye contact. You just have to a) jump on the pavement just to be sure or b) pray he's not a complete idiot and that he is actually aware of what's going on. I can't even see whether he/she is actually looking in the right direction before turning!
Sorry, I had to let off a little steam, I had a rather scary encounter this morning with a huge 4x4 with all glasses so dark I couldn't even see if there were human beings inside (which I doubt, given the way it steered)
damn danger for a cyclist. There is no way to understand whether the bloke driving the car has actually seen me, no way to establish eye contact. You just have to a) jump on the pavement just to be sure or b) pray he's not a complete idiot
I wouldn't fancy relying on b), given that s/he (more probably he, I'll grant you) has decided that opaque windcreens are a Really Good Idea... ;-/
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I had never realised it - they're illegal in my country, although for completely wrong reasons - but those opaque/darkened windscreens are a damn danger for a cyclist. There is no way to understand whether the bloke driving the car has actually seen me, no way to establish eye contact. You just have to a) jump on the pavement just to be sure or b) pray he's not a complete idiot and that he is actually aware of what's going on. I can't even see whether he/she is actually looking in the right direction before turning!
Sorry, I had to let off a little steam, I had a rather scary encounter this morning with a huge 4x4 with all glasses so dark I couldn't even see if there were human beings inside (which I doubt, given the way it steered)
AIUI They're not legal in the UK either (if by "my country" and your Italian sounding name the UK isn't yours, notwithstanding the .co.uk :-).
You can have some tint on some windows, I believe, but not on the windscreen and I'm not sure about the front side windows.
I had never realised it - they're illegal in my country, although for completely wrong reasons
They're also illegal in Florida, because people kept shooting police officers through the darkened windows and they couldn't see the weapons to get out of the way.
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- but those opaque/darkened windscreens are a damn danger for a cyclist. There is no way to understand whether the bloke driving the car has actually seen me, no way to establish eye contact. You just have to a) jump on the pavement just to be sure or b) pray he's not a complete idiot and that he is actually aware of what's going on. I can't even see whether he/she is actually looking in the right direction before turning!
Sorry, I had to let off a little steam, I had a rather scary encounter this morning with a huge 4x4 with all glasses so dark I couldn't even see if there were human beings inside (which I doubt, given the way it steered)
Those things scare me even when the windows aren't tinted, but Uhoh... Florida here we come...
I had never realised it - they're illegal in my country, although for completely wrong reasons - but those opaque/darkened windscreens are a damn danger for a cyclist. There is no way to understand whether the bloke driving the car has actually seen me, no way to establish eye contact. You just have to a) jump on the pavement just to be sure or b) pray he's not a complete idiot and that he is actually aware of what's going on. I can't even see whether he/she is actually looking in the right direction before turning!
Sorry, I had to let off a little steam, I had a rather scary encounter this morning with a huge 4x4 with all glasses so dark I couldn't even see if there were human beings inside (which I doubt, given the way it steered)
Eugenio
Not 100% sure if they are legal here either.Doubtless someone will enlighten us. I agree with you they are a hazard,never really thought about it before.
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I had never realised it - they're illegal in my country, although for
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AIUI They're not legal in the UK either (if by "my country" and your Italian sounding name the UK isn't yours, notwithstanding the .co.uk :-).
That should have been "in my country of origin" 🙂
So they're illegal here too. Did anybody bother to inform the Met of this fact? I've seen plenty around Highgate and Finchley...
Eugenio
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In general they must allow 75% of light through the windscreen and 70% of light through the other windows.
However there is an exception for windows which the driver "is unable, at any time, to see the road". These windows can be tinted as dark as you like. -- "We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to prevent life escaping from us." bensales.combensales.comOpen ↗
I've just taken delivery of a new people carrier and the rear windows are tinted to prevent the "tea leafs" seeing what's on the seats but the front and front side windows are clear for exactly the reason you all mention, so that I can be seen by other road users. So not all cagers are as daft as some of you seem to think!!
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I had never realised it - they're illegal in my country, although for completely wrong reasons - but those opaque/darkened windscreens are a damn danger for a cyclist. There is no way to understand whether the bloke driving the car has actually seen me, no way to establish eye contact. You just have to a) jump on the pavement just to be sure or b) pray he's not a complete idiot and that he is actually aware of what's going on. I can't even see whether he/she is actually looking in the right direction before turning!
Sorry, I had to let off a little steam, I had a rather scary encounter this morning with a huge 4x4 with all glasses so dark I couldn't even see if there were human beings inside (which I doubt, given the way it steered)
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I've just taken delivery of a new people carrier and the rear windows are tinted to prevent the "tea leafs" seeing what's on the seats but the front and front side windows are clear for exactly the reason you all mention, so that I can be seen by other road users. So not all cagers are as daft as some of you seem to think!!
That sounds just like my previa. -- .paul
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