DANGER - Drinking Too Much WATER !

jbuch <[email hidden]> wrote in
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DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH WATER, Doctors Warn Athletes

Too much of anything can kill you. Oxygen, water, vitamins, sun, darkness.
Man did not just develop the ability to thrive with variety. He developed
requiring it.

Gandalf Parker

jbuch said:

On the other hand, he said, he knows of people who have become sick and
died from drinking too much.
.
Hyponatremia can be treated, Noakes said, but doctors and emergency
workers often assume a sick runner is dehydrated and give intravenous
fluids instead, sometimes killing the patient, he said.
.
.

Funny how they don't even define "dehydrated"....they just issue stern
warning against becoming so...it's no wonder people end up overdrinking
with such vague, useless recommendations.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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jbuch said:

On the other hand, he said, he knows of people who have become sick and
died from drinking too much.
.
Hyponatremia can be treated, Noakes said, but doctors and emergency
workers often assume a sick runner is dehydrated and give intravenous
fluids instead, sometimes killing the patient, he said.
.
.

Funny how they don't even define "dehydrated"....they just issue stern
warning against becoming so...it's no wonder people end up overdrinking
with such vague, useless recommendations.

It's just another way for lawyers to make more money.

In the earlier days of this country, people settled differences through
comprimise. I still believe most of us would prefer that.

Too many, though, want something for nothing, and figure they can get it
through litigation. There's always a hungry lawyer out there that will file
suit for them.

We're so busy into "defining this and defining that" that common sense goes
by the wayside. Instead of working it out together, we fight each other and
expect our politicians to settle our differences. And by doing so, we
further empower our government.

In my opinion, this is not a good thing.

"It's just another way for lawyers to make more money. "

Hard to see how any lawyers are going to make money off of this issue,
one way or the other. The number of people who become ill from
drinking too much water is still extremely small, and who exactly could
anyone sue?

There are a few interesting things here however. According to the
report, the runners who developed problems drank an average of 3 liters
of water. That doesn't seem like a particularly large amount for
someone in a marathon. One would think a lot of water would be lost
just from sweating. I've heard of this problem before and of people
dying from it, however I always thought it took a lot more water before
serious problems occurred, even in people who were not engaged in such
strenuous excercise.

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"It's just another way for lawyers to make more money. "

Hard to see how any lawyers are going to make money off of this issue,
one way or the other. The number of people who become ill from
drinking too much water is still extremely small, and who exactly could
anyone sue?

There are a few interesting things here however. According to the
report, the runners who developed problems drank an average of 3 liters
of water. That doesn't seem like a particularly large amount for
someone in a marathon. One would think a lot of water would be lost
just from sweating. I've heard of this problem before and of people
dying from it, however I always thought it took a lot more water before
serious problems occurred, even in people who were not engaged in such
strenuous excercise.

You make a good point, but there are people who will sue. They will claim
their doctor, their physical trainer, whoever, told them to drink lots of
water and it made them sick.

Mostly the problem with drinking too much water (and I have done this, but
it was my own doing) is dilution of body electrolytes. By drinking a gallon
or more of water within a few hours made me a bit dizzy. I learned not to
do this anymore <G>.

But there are people who can become very creative over finding reasons to
sue others. And all the rest of us pay for it.

Roger Zoul said:

jbuch said:

On the other hand, he said, he knows of people who have become sick
and died from drinking too much.
.
Hyponatremia can be treated, Noakes said, but doctors and emergency
workers often assume a sick runner is dehydrated and give intravenous
fluids instead, sometimes killing the patient, he said.
.
.

Funny how they don't even define "dehydrated"....they just issue stern
warning against becoming so...it's no wonder people end up overdrinking
with such vague, useless recommendations.

Yes.

And, human nature has the built in fault of "If a little is good, a LOT
is BETTER."

Our intrinsic foolishness comes in play here too.

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"jbuch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH WATER, Doctors Warn Athletes

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... doctors began seeing athletes stumbling into medical tents,
nauseated, groggy, barely coherent and with their blood severely
diluted. Some died on the spot or in the hospital.

By Gina Kolata The New York Times

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/04/14/news/water.html
Friday, April 15, 2005
NEW YORK After years of telling athletes to drink as much liquid as
possible to avoid dehydration, some doctors are now saying that drinking
too much during intense exercise poses a far greater health risk,
according to a report published Thursday in The New England Journal of
Medicine.
.
An increasing number of athletes - marathon runners, triathletes and even
hikers - are severely diluting their blood by drinking too much water or
too many sports drinks, with some falling gravely ill and even dying, the
doctors say.
.
New research on runners in the Boston Marathon confirms the problem and
shows just how serious it is.
.
The research involved 488 runners who participated in the 2002 Boston
Marathon. While most were fine, 13 percent - or 62 of them - drank so much
that they had hyponatremia, or abnormally low blood sodium levels. Three
had levels so low that they were in danger of dying.
.
The runners who developed the problem tended to be slower, taking more
than four hours to finish the course. That gave them plenty of time to
drink copious amounts of liquid. And drink they did - an average of three
liters, or about 13 cups of water or a sports drink - so much that they
actually gained weight during the race.
.
As more slow runners entered long races, doctors began seeing athletes
stumbling into medical tents, nauseated, groggy, barely coherent and with
their blood severely diluted. Some died on the spot or in the hospital.
.
Marathon doctors say that the new study offers the first documentation of
the problem.
.
"Before this study we suspected there was a problem," said Dr. Marvin
Adner, the medical director of the Boston Marathon, which takes place on
Monday. "But this proves it."
.
Hyponatremia is entirely preventable, Adner and others said. During
intense exercise the kidneys cannot excrete excess water. But as people
keep drinking, the extra water moves into their cells, including brain
cells. The engorged brain cells, with no room to expand, press against the
skull and can compress the brain stem, which controls vital functions like
breathing. The result can be fatal.
.
But the marathon runners were simply following what has long been
conventional advice: Avoid dehydration at all costs.
.
Doctors and sports drink companies "made dehydration a medical illness
that was to be feared," said Dr. Tim Noakes, a hyponatremia expert at the
University of Cape Town in South Africa.
.
"Everyone becomes dehydrated when they race," Noakes said. "But I have not
found one death in an athlete from dehydration in a competitive race in
the whole history of running. Not one. Not even a case of illness."
.
On the other hand, he said, he knows of people who have become sick and
died from drinking too much.
.
Hyponatremia can be treated, Noakes said, but doctors and emergency
workers often assume a sick runner is dehydrated and give intravenous
fluids instead, sometimes killing the patient, he said.
.
.

Come on. Of course drinking too much water can be hurtful. Water dilutes
the eletrolytes in the body. This has been known for a long time.

I remember working for a scrap metal yard in my younger days, and they
provided salt tablets to stay off the effects of too much sweat and loss of
electrolutes. They didn't know what it was all about, but they knew that
salt could keep someone working.

Science does have to bend to common sense, sometimes.

"Jim Bard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"jbuch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH WATER, Doctors Warn Athletes

Quoted message said:

... doctors began seeing athletes stumbling into medical tents,
nauseated, groggy, barely coherent and with their blood severely
diluted. Some died on the spot or in the hospital.

By Gina Kolata The New York Times

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/04/14/news/water.html
Friday, April 15, 2005
NEW YORK After years of telling athletes to drink as much liquid as
possible to avoid dehydration, some doctors are now saying that drinking
too much during intense exercise poses a far greater health risk,
according to a report published Thursday in The New England Journal of
Medicine.
.
An increasing number of athletes - marathon runners, triathletes and even
hikers - are severely diluting their blood by drinking too much water or
too many sports drinks, with some falling gravely ill and even dying, the
doctors say.
.
New research on runners in the Boston Marathon confirms the problem and
shows just how serious it is.
.
The research involved 488 runners who participated in the 2002 Boston
Marathon. While most were fine, 13 percent - or 62 of them - drank so
much that they had hyponatremia, or abnormally low blood sodium levels.
Three had levels so low that they were in danger of dying.
.
The runners who developed the problem tended to be slower, taking more
than four hours to finish the course. That gave them plenty of time to
drink copious amounts of liquid. And drink they did - an average of three
liters, or about 13 cups of water or a sports drink - so much that they
actually gained weight during the race.
.
As more slow runners entered long races, doctors began seeing athletes
stumbling into medical tents, nauseated, groggy, barely coherent and with
their blood severely diluted. Some died on the spot or in the hospital.
.
Marathon doctors say that the new study offers the first documentation of
the problem.
.
"Before this study we suspected there was a problem," said Dr. Marvin
Adner, the medical director of the Boston Marathon, which takes place on
Monday. "But this proves it."
.
Hyponatremia is entirely preventable, Adner and others said. During
intense exercise the kidneys cannot excrete excess water. But as people
keep drinking, the extra water moves into their cells, including brain
cells. The engorged brain cells, with no room to expand, press against
the skull and can compress the brain stem, which controls vital functions
like breathing. The result can be fatal.
.
But the marathon runners were simply following what has long been
conventional advice: Avoid dehydration at all costs.
.
Doctors and sports drink companies "made dehydration a medical illness
that was to be feared," said Dr. Tim Noakes, a hyponatremia expert at the
University of Cape Town in South Africa.
.
"Everyone becomes dehydrated when they race," Noakes said. "But I have
not found one death in an athlete from dehydration in a competitive race
in the whole history of running. Not one. Not even a case of illness."
.
On the other hand, he said, he knows of people who have become sick and
died from drinking too much.
.
Hyponatremia can be treated, Noakes said, but doctors and emergency
workers often assume a sick runner is dehydrated and give intravenous
fluids instead, sometimes killing the patient, he said.
.
.

Come on. Of course drinking too much water can be hurtful. Water dilutes
the eletrolytes in the body. This has been known for a long time.

I remember working for a scrap metal yard in my younger days, and they
provided salt tablets to stay off the effects of too much sweat and loss
of electrolutes. They didn't know what it was all about, but they knew
that salt could keep someone working.

Science does have to bend to common sense, sometimes.

Anytime I see Saffy here, though, I'm going to agree with her!

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"jbuch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH WATER, Doctors Warn Athletes

Quoted message said:

... doctors began seeing athletes stumbling into medical tents,
nauseated, groggy, barely coherent and with their blood severely
diluted. Some died on the spot or in the hospital.

By Gina Kolata The New York Times

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/04/14/news/water.html
Friday, April 15, 2005
NEW YORK After years of telling athletes to drink as much liquid as
possible to avoid dehydration, some doctors are now saying that drinking
too much during intense exercise poses a far greater health risk,
according to a report published Thursday in The New England Journal of
Medicine.
.
An increasing number of athletes - marathon runners, triathletes and even
hikers - are severely diluting their blood by drinking too much water or
too many sports drinks, with some falling gravely ill and even dying, the
doctors say.
.
New research on runners in the Boston Marathon confirms the problem and
shows just how serious it is.
.
The research involved 488 runners who participated in the 2002 Boston
Marathon. While most were fine, 13 percent - or 62 of them - drank so
much that they had hyponatremia, or abnormally low blood sodium levels.
Three had levels so low that they were in danger of dying.
.
The runners who developed the problem tended to be slower, taking more
than four hours to finish the course. That gave them plenty of time to
drink copious amounts of liquid. And drink they did - an average of three
liters, or about 13 cups of water or a sports drink - so much that they
actually gained weight during the race.
.
As more slow runners entered long races, doctors began seeing athletes
stumbling into medical tents, nauseated, groggy, barely coherent and with
their blood severely diluted. Some died on the spot or in the hospital.
.
Marathon doctors say that the new study offers the first documentation of
the problem.
.
"Before this study we suspected there was a problem," said Dr. Marvin
Adner, the medical director of the Boston Marathon, which takes place on
Monday. "But this proves it."
.
Hyponatremia is entirely preventable, Adner and others said. During
intense exercise the kidneys cannot excrete excess water. But as people
keep drinking, the extra water moves into their cells, including brain
cells. The engorged brain cells, with no room to expand, press against
the skull and can compress the brain stem, which controls vital functions
like breathing. The result can be fatal.
.
But the marathon runners were simply following what has long been
conventional advice: Avoid dehydration at all costs.
.
Doctors and sports drink companies "made dehydration a medical illness
that was to be feared," said Dr. Tim Noakes, a hyponatremia expert at the
University of Cape Town in South Africa.
.
"Everyone becomes dehydrated when they race," Noakes said. "But I have
not found one death in an athlete from dehydration in a competitive race
in the whole history of running. Not one. Not even a case of illness."
.
On the other hand, he said, he knows of people who have become sick and
died from drinking too much.
.
Hyponatremia can be treated, Noakes said, but doctors and emergency
workers often assume a sick runner is dehydrated and give intravenous
fluids instead, sometimes killing the patient, he said.
.
.

Come on. Of course drinking too much water can be hurtful. Water dilutes
the eletrolytes in the body. This has been known for a long time.

I remember working for a scrap metal yard in my younger days, and they
provided salt tablets to stay off the effects of too much sweat and loss
of electrolutes. They didn't know what it was all about, but they knew
that salt could keep someone working.

Science does have to bend to common sense, sometimes.

Anytime I see Saffy here, though, I'm going to agree with her!