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Ophelia said:

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Spread them throughout the day, mostly in the form of fibrous veggies.

Ophelia wrote:
:: I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
:: food for breakfast.
::
:: Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Some carbs is a lot different than a lot of carbs. If you're carbed
controled for weight loss, it won't make that much difference, especially if
you're anywhere near 20 g. It certainly can't hurt to spread them over the
day, either. I think it's possible to make things too complex and
convoluted to end up with a plan you can follow easily. Obviously, most of
your carbs should come from non-starchy veggies and low-sugar fruits.

Roger Zoul said:

Ophelia said:

Quoted message said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Some carbs is a lot different than a lot of carbs. If you're carbed
controled for weight loss, it won't make that much difference,
especially if you're anywhere near 20 g. It certainly can't hurt to
spread them over the day, either. I think it's possible to make
things too complex and convoluted to end up with a plan you can
follow easily. Obviously, most of your carbs should come from
non-starchy veggies and low-sugar fruits.

Thank you! It is just that I have read here that protein is best in the
mornings; so which food is the best for the rest of the day?

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

I don't recall that anyone judged that, except that out of the
macronutrients

1) Alcohol
2) Fat
3) Carbohydrates
4) Protein

on a low carb diet, strike out Carbs. So you have left:

A) Alcohol
b) Fat
c) Protein

Which would you pick to be the dominant macronutrient for breakfast.

Perhaps a warm alcohol drink with melted butter?

In reality no carbs MUST be eaten.

I suppose you could say that the "best" carbs to eat are those foods
with maximum fiber and minimum carbs and high nutrient content for
vitamins and those phyto things.

This is 'best' because you get to eat more and it is potentially better
for you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ophelia wrote:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
It is just that I have read here that protein is best in the
mornings; so which food is the best for the rest of the day?

Don't be afraid to have lunch for breakfast, or dinner for lunch, or
breakfast for dinner. On low carb, you can get away from
preconceptions of what to eat when. Still, I usually have a couple
eggs and some pork or beef for breakfast.

Jim said:

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

I don't recall that anyone judged that, except that out of the
macronutrients

1) Alcohol
2) Fat
3) Carbohydrates
4) Protein

on a low carb diet, strike out Carbs. So you have left:

A) Alcohol
b) Fat
c) Protein

Which would you pick to be the dominant macronutrient for breakfast.

Perhaps a warm alcohol drink with melted butter?

In reality no carbs MUST be eaten.

I suppose you could say that the "best" carbs to eat are those foods
with maximum fiber and minimum carbs and high nutrient content for
vitamins and those phyto things.

This is 'best' because you get to eat more and it is potentially
better for you.

errrr thanks Jim.... I think🙂

Tom said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ophelia wrote:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
It is just that I have read here that protein is best in the
mornings; so which food is the best for the rest of the day?

Don't be afraid to have lunch for breakfast, or dinner for lunch, or
breakfast for dinner. On low carb, you can get away from
preconceptions of what to eat when. Still, I usually have a couple
eggs and some pork or beef for breakfast.

Thanks Tom🙂)

The reason I was asking, was that someone here mentioned that carbs are not
the best thing for breakfast!

I do understand that carbs are not the best thing anyway, but (I think it
might have been Jackie) that protein should always be taken for breakfast.

Thank you for your kind response🙂

O

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Tom said:

Quoted message said:

> Ophelia wrote:
I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
It is just that I have read here that protein is best in the
mornings; so which food is the best for the rest of the day?

Don't be afraid to have lunch for breakfast, or dinner for lunch, or
breakfast for dinner. On low carb, you can get away from
preconceptions of what to eat when. Still, I usually have a couple
eggs and some pork or beef for breakfast.

Thanks Tom🙂)

The reason I was asking, was that someone here mentioned that carbs are
not the best thing for breakfast!

I do understand that carbs are not the best thing anyway, but (I think it
might have been Jackie) that protein should always be taken for breakfast.

Thank you for your kind response🙂

If you are a diabetic, then eating your carbs in the am will have a great
affect on your blood glucose levels, for sure. In that case, if you are
going to be eating enough carbs to impact your BG, then it is best to do so
later in the day.

How many carbs one can handle in the am without driving BG up to damaging
levels depends on the person. One can learn by simply paying attention to
what's eaten and testing with a BG meter.

Roger Zoul said:

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Tom said:

>> Ophelia wrote:
> I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
> It is just that I have read here that protein is best in the
> mornings; so which food is the best for the rest of the day?

Don't be afraid to have lunch for breakfast, or dinner for lunch, or
breakfast for dinner. On low carb, you can get away from
preconceptions of what to eat when. Still, I usually have a couple
eggs and some pork or beef for breakfast.

Thanks Tom🙂)

The reason I was asking, was that someone here mentioned that carbs
are not the best thing for breakfast!

I do understand that carbs are not the best thing anyway, but (I
think it might have been Jackie) that protein should always be taken
for breakfast. Thank you for your kind response🙂

If you are a diabetic, then eating your carbs in the am will have a
great affect on your blood glucose levels, for sure. In that case,
if you are going to be eating enough carbs to impact your BG, then it
is best to do so later in the day.

How many carbs one can handle in the am without driving BG up to
damaging levels depends on the person. One can learn by simply paying
attention to what's eaten and testing with a BG meter.

Thank you Roger! I am not diabetic. I am just picking things up and
learning🙂

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Spread them out through the day. If you're doing protein power, you go
30-40g, and you spread it, roughly evenly over your meals.

Same with protein. If you're supposed to get 100 g, you make sure you
get
35g at each meal.

Dietary Fat just comes with the territory. Don't worry about it.

If you're gonna go high on a carb meal allowance, I've heard that
you're
better off doing it first thing (so you have the day to burn them) and
I've
heard it's best to do it at dinner (serotonin effects on sleep). Since
mileage varies, you might want to experiment a bit.

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It's not so much that protein is best for breakfast -- fat would be fine
too -- it's just that the foods people tend to think of as breakfast
foods fall into two categories: high protein and high carb. You've got
your eggs, meat, and protein powder shakes on one side; and cereal,
toast, and juice on the other side. What people with touchy blood sugar
have found is that X grams of carbs at breakfast will spike their blood
sugar more than X grams of carbs later in the day.

However, with low-carbing the high-carb choices are out of the picture
anyway, so *all* your meals will be high-protein and/or high-fat by
mainstream standards. It's best to spread whatever carbs you do eat
throughout the day. Protein Power recommends that in Stage I (30g
limit) you have a 10g maximum per meal, or if you're having snacks
between meals, something like 7g per meal and 5g per snack. For most
people, 10g of less at breakfast won't be a problem, and you'll only
know it's a problem for you if you test your blood sugar.

My breakfast of bacon and eggs has somewhere around 5g of carbs (keep in
mind that eggs and cured meats both have a small amount), so that's
enough for me, and I spread the other 5g out over the other meals and
snacks of the day. What you want to avoid is putting all your carbs for
the day into any one meal, whether that's 20g on Induction or 50+ later
in your progress, because that will stress your insulin response harder
right after that meal than spreading it out would.

--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Hollywood said:

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Spread them out through the day. If you're doing protein power, you go
30-40g, and you spread it, roughly evenly over your meals.

Same with protein. If you're supposed to get 100 g, you make sure you
get
35g at each meal.

Dietary Fat just comes with the territory. Don't worry about it.

If you're gonna go high on a carb meal allowance, I've heard that
you're
better off doing it first thing (so you have the day to burn them) and
I've
heard it's best to do it at dinner (serotonin effects on sleep). Since
mileage varies, you might want to experiment a bit.

Thank you Hollywood🙂

Aaron Baugher said:

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It's not so much that protein is best for breakfast -- fat would be
fine too -- it's just that the foods people tend to think of as
breakfast foods fall into two categories: high protein and high carb.
You've got your eggs, meat, and protein powder shakes on one side;
and cereal, toast, and juice on the other side. What people with
touchy blood sugar have found is that X grams of carbs at breakfast
will spike their blood sugar more than X grams of carbs later in the
day.

However, with low-carbing the high-carb choices are out of the picture
anyway, so *all* your meals will be high-protein and/or high-fat by
mainstream standards. It's best to spread whatever carbs you do eat
throughout the day. Protein Power recommends that in Stage I (30g
limit) you have a 10g maximum per meal, or if you're having snacks
between meals, something like 7g per meal and 5g per snack. For most
people, 10g of less at breakfast won't be a problem, and you'll only
know it's a problem for you if you test your blood sugar.

My breakfast of bacon and eggs has somewhere around 5g of carbs (keep
in mind that eggs and cured meats both have a small amount), so that's
enough for me, and I spread the other 5g out over the other meals and
snacks of the day. What you want to avoid is putting all your carbs
for the day into any one meal, whether that's 20g on Induction or 50+
later in your progress, because that will stress your insulin
response harder right after that meal than spreading it out would.

Thank you Aaron! I am taking it all on board

You may remember me when I did meat and proteins only. It did work and I
lost weight but I do believe you were all right about it not being the
healthiest. The big plus for that though was that I was never hungry!

I am determined to be sensible this time, not get on any scales and get as
healthy as I can🙂

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

That depends on what plan you're on and what your current carb
quota is.

Quoted message said:

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

"Must" is the wrong word. It works best to follow the directions of
your plan of choice and every single well known plan includes
carbs.

At a quota of 20 something like bacon and eggs for breakfast works
well because a couple of eggs is 1 gram and the bacon may be
cured in a way to make it 1 gram for two slices. A mug of coffee
can have another gram since a small cup is also a half. That's 3
grams at breakfast leaving 17 for the rest of the day. It's easy to
get to 17 with cauliflower and such.

At a quota of 50, trying to get there with cauliflower means you need
to eat a serving of cauliflower the size of your head. It's not
practical
to do that. But a quarter cup of steel cut oats slow cooked over
night into a cup of hot cereal is close to 20 grams for breakfast and
that will make the other 30 grams for the rest of the day much easier.
Of course if you want to flavor your oats brown sugar or Lyle's
Golden is not the choice. Butter and/or cream is the choice, at a
half gram per tablespoon.

Calorie for calorie, protein and fat are more satiating than carbs.
They last longer so hunger doesn't happen until later. Calorie for
calorie, fiber carbs are more filling than sugar and starch carbs.
Hot cereal like steel cut oats has far more fiber than junk cold
cereal like Captn Crunch. So at a low quota go with the high fat
protein foods and at higher quota go with the high fiber carbier
choice.

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

That depends on what plan you're on and what your current carb
quota is.

Quoted message said:

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

"Must" is the wrong word. It works best to follow the directions of
your plan of choice and every single well known plan includes
carbs.

At a quota of 20 something like bacon and eggs for breakfast works
well because a couple of eggs is 1 gram and the bacon may be
cured in a way to make it 1 gram for two slices. A mug of coffee
can have another gram since a small cup is also a half. That's 3
grams at breakfast leaving 17 for the rest of the day. It's easy to
get to 17 with cauliflower and such.

At a quota of 50, trying to get there with cauliflower means you need
to eat a serving of cauliflower the size of your head. It's not
practical
to do that. But a quarter cup of steel cut oats slow cooked over
night into a cup of hot cereal is close to 20 grams for breakfast and
that will make the other 30 grams for the rest of the day much easier.
Of course if you want to flavor your oats brown sugar or Lyle's
Golden is not the choice. Butter and/or cream is the choice, at a
half gram per tablespoon.

Calorie for calorie, protein and fat are more satiating than carbs.
They last longer so hunger doesn't happen until later. Calorie for
calorie, fiber carbs are more filling than sugar and starch carbs.
Hot cereal like steel cut oats has far more fiber than junk cold
cereal like Captn Crunch. So at a low quota go with the high fat
protein foods and at higher quota go with the high fiber carbier
choice.

Doug Freyburger said:

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

That depends on what plan you're on and what your current carb
quota is.

Quoted message said:

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

"Must" is the wrong word. It works best to follow the directions of
your plan of choice and every single well known plan includes
carbs.

I meant that when I have egg and bacon for brekky there are carbs in it!!
It is impossible to avoid! Sheesh I am getting confuddled🙂

Quoted message said:

At a quota of 20 something like bacon and eggs for breakfast works
well because a couple of eggs is 1 gram and the bacon may be
cured in a way to make it 1 gram for two slices. A mug of coffee
can have another gram since a small cup is also a half. That's 3
grams at breakfast leaving 17 for the rest of the day. It's easy to
get to 17 with cauliflower and such.

At a quota of 50, trying to get there with cauliflower means you need
to eat a serving of cauliflower the size of your head. It's not
practical
to do that. But a quarter cup of steel cut oats slow cooked over
night into a cup of hot cereal is close to 20 grams for breakfast and
that will make the other 30 grams for the rest of the day much easier.
Of course if you want to flavor your oats brown sugar or Lyle's
Golden is not the choice. Butter and/or cream is the choice, at a
half gram per tablespoon.

Calorie for calorie, protein and fat are more satiating than carbs.
They last longer so hunger doesn't happen until later. Calorie for
calorie, fiber carbs are more filling than sugar and starch carbs.
Hot cereal like steel cut oats has far more fiber than junk cold
cereal like Captn Crunch. So at a low quota go with the high fat
protein foods and at higher quota go with the high fiber carbier
choice.

Thanks Doug🙂

btw I am saving all the useful posts so I can refer back to them🙂

Doug Freyburger said:

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

That depends on what plan you're on and what your current carb
quota is.

Quoted message said:

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

"Must" is the wrong word. It works best to follow the directions of
your plan of choice and every single well known plan includes
carbs.

I meant that when I have egg and bacon for brekky there are carbs in it!!
It is impossible to avoid! Sheesh I am getting confuddled🙂

Quoted message said:

At a quota of 20 something like bacon and eggs for breakfast works
well because a couple of eggs is 1 gram and the bacon may be
cured in a way to make it 1 gram for two slices. A mug of coffee
can have another gram since a small cup is also a half. That's 3
grams at breakfast leaving 17 for the rest of the day. It's easy to
get to 17 with cauliflower and such.

At a quota of 50, trying to get there with cauliflower means you need
to eat a serving of cauliflower the size of your head. It's not
practical
to do that. But a quarter cup of steel cut oats slow cooked over
night into a cup of hot cereal is close to 20 grams for breakfast and
that will make the other 30 grams for the rest of the day much easier.
Of course if you want to flavor your oats brown sugar or Lyle's
Golden is not the choice. Butter and/or cream is the choice, at a
half gram per tablespoon.

Calorie for calorie, protein and fat are more satiating than carbs.
They last longer so hunger doesn't happen until later. Calorie for
calorie, fiber carbs are more filling than sugar and starch carbs.
Hot cereal like steel cut oats has far more fiber than junk cold
cereal like Captn Crunch. So at a low quota go with the high fat
protein foods and at higher quota go with the high fiber carbier
choice.

Thanks Doug🙂

btw I am saving all the useful posts so I can refer back to them🙂

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It is nice to see here, Ophelia, I know you from another newsgroup.

Hello everybody, I am new here. I have been living "La Vita Low Carb"
for about 6 weeks. I went on a cruise 2 weeks ago and I stayed on my
diet, losing 2 pounds during the cruise. I was so proud of myself. LOL

Ophelia, at breakfast, I choose either ham, bacon or sausage and I eat
eggs. I could eat vegetables, but they take a little time to cook, and
eggs cook so much faster. During the day, I get my carbs from
vegetables, nuts, cheese. I also eat chicken salad, tuna salad, seafood
salad.

Becca

Ophelia said:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It is nice to see here, Ophelia, I know you from another newsgroup.

Hello everybody, I am new here. I have been living "La Vita Low Carb"
for about 6 weeks. I went on a cruise 2 weeks ago and I stayed on my
diet, losing 2 pounds during the cruise. I was so proud of myself. LOL

Ophelia, at breakfast, I choose either ham, bacon or sausage and I eat
eggs. I could eat vegetables, but they take a little time to cook, and
eggs cook so much faster. During the day, I get my carbs from
vegetables, nuts, cheese. I also eat chicken salad, tuna salad, seafood
salad.

Becca