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  1. I've read many different articles and book chapters on caloric needs, training, and weight loss. I am always left a little confused as to what I need to eat, given training volume and weight loss goals. This is my current situation:

    35 yr old male, 5'8", 170 lbs
    Ride 60 - 90 minutes 3 x per week, well below LT but in an aerobic zone.
    Ride 120 minutes once a week at or near LT
    Eat around 2200 cal a day, net of any I have burned in the bike
    I've lost 20 lbs over the past two years but have maintained 24% body fat
    I want to lose 10 more pounds AND reduce my fat %
    I've been at a 170 lb plateau for almost a year.

    Can anyone help?

  2. Square1 said:

    I've read many different articles and book chapters on caloric needs, training, and weight loss. I am always left a little confused as to what I need to eat, given training volume and weight loss goals.


    Simple answer: eat less calories. it sounds like you're in good shape already, but in order to lose more fat, you'll need to take in fewer calories.

    your body fat % probably won't decrease much in the beginning, but you should lose some of that extra fat.

    -Bullseye

  3. another thing you will want to look at is the type of food you are eating, if you lower your calorie intake and reduce the amount of saturated fats you are eating, you should burn off some fat. i know a lot of people that exercise regularly and limit the calories, but don't eat healthier and smarter, and that often leads to a plateau. that happened to me, and until recently when i watched what i ate. my weight dropped.

  4. Square1 said:

    I've read many different articles and book chapters on caloric needs, training, and weight loss. I am always left a little confused as to what I need to eat, given training volume and weight loss goals. This is my current situation:

    35 yr old male, 5'8", 170 lbs
    Ride 60 - 90 minutes 3 x per week, well below LT but in an aerobic zone.
    Ride 120 minutes once a week at or near LT
    Eat around 2200 cal a day, net of any I have burned in the bike
    I've lost 20 lbs over the past two years but have maintained 24% body fat
    I want to lose 10 more pounds AND reduce my fat %
    I've been at a 170 lb plateau for almost a year.

    Can anyone help?


    Let me get this straight....Two years ago you weighed 190 lbs. and were 24% body fat. Now you are 170 lbs. and are still 24% body fat. Did you lose all your weight in water, or did you chop off one of your arms? May I ask what device you are using to calculate your body fat percentage?

  5. IndyRider said:

    Let me get this straight....Two years ago you weighed 190 lbs. and were 24% body fat. Now you are 170 lbs. and are still 24% body fat. Did you lose all your weight in water, or did you chop off one of your arms? May I ask what device you are using to calculate your body fat percentage?

    Sorry...that was unclear. I have no idea what my fat% was when I was 190 - I'm guessing more than 24%. I was just tested and am now 24%. Regardless, I'd like to drop it down.

    Limbs still intact.

  6. Do the math. Your BMI is probably around 2400/day. You probably burn about 750Kal/hr on the bike. One lb. of fat = 3500K. You ride about 5hrs/week, 5x750=3,750Kal So if you're truly eating 2200/day and riding 5 hrs/week, you should be losing at least 1lb/week. I would'nt recommend eating less than 2100 cal/day -It'll mess your body up by going into starvation mode (store fat at all cost). You need to increase the time moving (bike) and make sure your calories are coming from whole foods (no junk).

  7. Your overall profile is very similar to mine.
    I am 41, 5'8", 162 lbs, but 15% body fat. I eat 1800 kcals per day when I don 't ride, and add 30 kcals per mile on the days I do ride. I ride about 100 miles per week winter, 150 per week summer. My weight has been stable and my %BF stable for the last year. I started biking regularly about 3 years ago weighing 175 or so.

    My thoughts are:
    1) 24% body fat sounds higher than I would expect.
    2) 120 minutes at LT is a butt load of work.
    3) I am not exactly sure how many calories you are eating, is it 2200 per day every day, or 2200 per day + extra on the days you ride?

    I would guess you need 2200 per day every day + no extra on ride days to maintain your weight. Which sounds like what you are saying.

    Unfortunately, 2200 is not a limitless supply of food.

    So, if you want to drop lbs of fat, I would suggest the following:
    1) Drop 200 per day to 2000, that will knock off a couple of pounds per month, and should be slow enough that you don't lose muscle.
    2) Eat 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fat, but eat a balanced diet, smaller meals and healthful snacks. Eat high volume low cal foods regularly, ie salads and fresh vegetables.
    3) Switch your workout routine up, do 60-90 two days in moderate aerobic, 60 one day at LT, and 120-180 one day in moderate to low aerobic. If you use a hrm, and your MHR is about 185, the moderate would be 130-145 bpm, the LT would be 150-165, and the moderate to low would be 120-135.
    4) Add a 15 minute workout with weights 2-3x per week. You don't have to go crazy, just something to tone up your arms and upper body a bit, lower weight, higher reps, a few exercises, something you can easily stick with. For example, 3 sets, 20 reps each, of curls, presses and bench presses. OR pick up some other kind of recreational sport that gets you moving once or twice a week like swimming, cutting your grass, digging in the garden, that involves your upper body.

  8. Assuming the 24% is accurate you only need around 1636 cal a day to maintain your lean body mass. So if your 2200 intake is net after deducting for calories burned in exercise you are eating about 600 a day more than necessary. That may seem shocking but at 10% body fat you would weigh 142 pounds. How much do you really think a 5'8" 142 guy needs to eat?

    Decreases in metabolic rate from insufficient caloric intake are generally said not to be an issue unless you are running more than a ~1000 cal a day deficit or netting less than ~1250 cal a day for men. I don't think you need to worry about either.

    One thing that would help is splitting your higher intensity exercise into 1 hour three times a week. Research has shown more weight loss from doing more frequent high intensity vs one long bout even though calories burned during exercise were the same. Metabolic rate is elevated for a period of time after intense exercise so more sessions a week = more time with elevated rate.

  9. mises said:

    That may seem shocking but at 10% body fat you would weigh 142 pounds. How much do you really think a 5'8" 142 guy needs to eat?


    I dunno, I never count it up!! 😉 (I'm 5' 7.5" and 140). I seem to stay pretty steady no mater what I eat. This however, doesn't help our original poster with his question. You never answered the original question, HOW were you tested? I've tried the electronic BF measures and they say I'm 20%+ body fat. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to call BS. With my "accu-measure" calipers it says I'm around 10-12%....

    L

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