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Cyclocomputers with 'current grade' measurement - how do they work?

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  1. How is it that some cyclocomputers are able to measure the grade of a
    road? Will this be an accurate measurement?

    Thanks,
    -Mike

  2. Mine uses change in altitude and distance to compute grade.

  3. none said:

    How is it that some cyclocomputers are able to measure the grade of a
    road? Will this be an accurate measurement?

    Thanks,
    -Mike

    They can be accurate but there will be a delay. You just measure
    altitude gain and distance travelled. In a long even climb the reading
    will make sense.

    Lou
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    Posted by news://news.nb.nu

  4. Lou Holtman said:

    They can be accurate but there will be a delay. You just measure
    altitude gain and distance travelled. In a long even climb the reading
    will make sense.

    Hrm...it's my understanding that the altimeters on these units are
    usually not terribly. Wouldn't a current grade measurement require a
    very high level of precision?

    Thanks,
    -Mike

  5. Lou Holtman said:

    They can be accurate but there will be a delay. You just measure
    altitude gain and distance travelled. In a long even climb the reading
    will make sense.

    Hrm...it's my understanding that the altimeters on these units are
    usually not terribly accurate. Wouldn't a current grade measurement
    require a very high level of precision?

    -Mike

  6. none said:
    Lou Holtman said:

    They can be accurate but there will be a delay. You just measure
    altitude gain and distance travelled. In a long even climb the reading
    will make sense.

    Hrm...it's my understanding that the altimeters on these units are
    usually not terribly.

    That's correct since it is a relative measuement.

    Wouldn't a current grade measurement require a

    Quoted message said:

    very high level of precision?

    There is not such thing as a 'current grade'. The grade displayed is the
    grade over the LAST x meters, and x varies between the cycling
    computers. It's a running average.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu

  7. Quoted message said:

    There is not such thing as a 'current grade'. The grade displayed is the
    grade over the LAST x meters, and x varies between the cycling
    computers. It's a running average.

    Here is a current grade bicycle handlebar mounted inclinemeter, just
    like a carpenter's level:
    http://circlecitybicycles.com/inclin.htm

    There might be some that use a mercury filled curved tube similar to a
    thermostat.

  8. Mike A Schwab said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is not such thing as a 'current grade'. The grade displayed is the
    grade over the LAST x meters, and x varies between the cycling
    computers. It's a running average.

    Here is a current grade bicycle handlebar mounted inclinemeter, just
    like a carpenter's level:
    http://circlecitybicycles.com/inclin.htm

    There might be some that use a mercury filled curved tube similar to a
    thermostat.

    Nobody in their right mind should buy anything with mercury in it.

    Zoom

  9. none said:
    Lou Holtman said:

    They can be accurate but there will be a delay. You just measure
    altitude gain and distance travelled. In a long even climb the reading
    will make sense.

    Hrm...it's my understanding that the altimeters on these units are
    usually not terribly accurate. Wouldn't a current grade measurement
    require a very high level of precision?

    My cyclecomputer (VDO MC1.0) uses the distance and altitude difference of
    the last 12 seconds to calculate the grade measurement. Let's say you ride
    50 meters in 12 seconds (thats about 15km/h). A grade of 6% means a
    elevation of 3.0 meters per 50 meters. A grade of 7% equals 3.5 m per 50m
    and 8% equals 4.0m per 50 meters. Just from looking at the altimeter
    reading on the display (and a short comparisson with a GPS) I suspect the
    altitude error to be a few meters. (That is assumed the weather has not
    changed, but it usually won't over 50 meters.) So I don't except the grade
    readout to be very accurate. On my prevision mountainbike-trip my computer
    thought the maximum grade I rode was 29%! ;-)

    Olaf

  10. "Here is a current grade bicycle handlebar mounted inclinemeter, just
    like a carpenter's level:
    http://circlecitybicycles.com/ inclin.htm"

    Sorry, to say this but it only measures up to 21% grades. I'd like one
    that would at least go to 40%. : )

  11. none said:

    Hrm...it's my understanding that the altimeters on these units are
    usually not terribly accurate. Wouldn't a current grade measurement
    require a very high level of precision?

    I've checked my readings (Ciclosport HAC-4) against my GPS
    and it's pretty accurate -- usually within 1%. As others
    have said, the longer & more consistent the slope the better.
    On my lunchtime ride there's a little hill that's about 11%,
    but it's short -- it takes about 25 pedal strokes to climb
    it. My altimiter just starts to show a gradient by the time
    I'm at the top.

    Larry Coon
    University of California

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