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  1. I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence, and
    it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below average).
    Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments. The Sigma
    Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
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  2. You sure you want 1/10 of a mph? I think this may be meaningless, since the
    readings to get the speed are not that accurate....

    Chuck Connell
    http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page

    "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence,
    and it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below
    average). Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments.
    The Sigma Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph
    increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

  3. Most computers I've seen ARE in 1/10ths. I had a Performance Axiom on my
    tandem and it was only in 1/2 mph and it drove me nuts.

    "Chuck Connell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You sure you want 1/10 of a mph? I think this may be meaningless, since
    the readings to get the speed are not that accurate....

    Chuck Connell
    http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page

    "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence,
    and it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below
    average). Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments.
    The Sigma Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph
    increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

  4. Just switch it over to metric and you will get 0.3125 mph increments ;-)

    George Ball said:

    Most computers I've seen ARE in 1/10ths. I had a Performance Axiom on my
    tandem and it was only in 1/2 mph and it drove me nuts.

    "Chuck Connell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You sure you want 1/10 of a mph? I think this may be meaningless, since
    the readings to get the speed are not that accurate....

    Chuck Connell
    http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page

    "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence,
    and it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below
    average). Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments.
    The Sigma Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph
    increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence, and
    it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below average).
    Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments. The Sigma
    Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph increments.
    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.
    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Why do you want MPH in 1/10 increments? This would mean the computer would
    be constantly changing. Not really a very useful feature.
    -------------
    Alex

  6. "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence, and
    it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below average).
    Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments. The Sigma
    Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

    OK, it seems to me that these features were *all* part of the Avocet
    45/45TT computer. See:
    http://www.avocet.com/cyclopages/cyclo45tt.html. If you can find one,
    it should be right around $50. I had one five years ago, but I
    haven't seen another since. Mine started eating batteries...

  7. yeah, I used to have an Avocet TT45, but the wires were really flimsy. I
    still have the computer unit, and the Avocet website would let me order a
    mounting bracket/sensor/ unit etc.. But the rear wheel circular "magnet"
    is designed for simple 28 or 32 spoke wheels and doesn't work that great on
    other types of wheels.

    I've found a couple of wireless versions but over $100. Ouch.

    Thanks,
    George
    "Andy M-S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence,
    and
    it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below
    average).
    Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments. The Sigma
    Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

    OK, it seems to me that these features were *all* part of the Avocet
    45/45TT computer. See:
    http://www.avocet.com/cyclopages/cyclo45tt.html. If you can find one,
    it should be right around $50. I had one five years ago, but I
    haven't seen another since. Mine started eating batteries...

  8. Being a techie guy, I felt the need to add more to this thread.... Imagine
    you are riding 20 miles per hour. One tenth of an mph is one part out of
    200 of your speed. There is no way that this is meaningful data. The
    computer might show it to you, but it has no connection to reality.

    Bike computers only measure your speed when the magnet goes past the sensor
    on each wheel revolution. The computer only reports this speed to you every
    couple seconds, so the display does not change too fast. The computer does
    this by taking an average of the last few wheel readings. So the display
    you see is really your average speed over the last couple seconds. During
    this time, your true speed has certainly varied by far more than one part
    in 200.

    In technical terms, speed readings of 1/10 mph are PRECISE but not
    ACCURATE.

    Chuck Connell
    781-939-0505 (office)
    http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
    http://www.DominoAdministration.com -- Outsourced administration services
    for Domino and Notes
    http://www.DominoSecurity.org -- The best source for security information
    about Domino and Notes

    (NOTE: I use a spam filter for inbound mail. In some cases,
    this filter rejects legitimate messages. If I do not answer
    your mail, please call me on the phone.)

    "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence,
    and it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below
    average). Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments.
    The Sigma Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph
    increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

  9. George Ball said:

    yeah, I used to have an Avocet TT45, but the wires were really flimsy. I
    still have the computer unit, and the Avocet website would let me order a
    mounting bracket/sensor/ unit etc.. But the rear wheel circular "magnet"
    is designed for simple 28 or 32 spoke wheels and doesn't work that great on
    other types of wheels.

    So use another magnet.

    It's a simple reed relay, it doesn't much care what magnet you use as long as
    there's enough pull to actuate it and you'll find that out real quick and
    simple.

    Ron

    Quoted message said:

    I've found a couple of wireless versions but over $100. Ouch.

    Thanks,
    George
    "Andy M-S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "George Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a new cyclocomputer; so far I can't find one with the
    functions I want. Besides the basic functions, it MUST have cadence,
    and
    it must have a "pace arrow" (showing current speed above or below
    average).
    Also the current speed should display in 1/10 mph increments. The Sigma
    Sport BC1600 has everything except it displays in 1/2 mph increments.

    Wired would work better than wireless - it will mount on an aerobar mount
    and many years ago that caused a problem for me.

    Anyone know of one like that for less than $50? I know the ones with
    altimeters and such will have all that but for too much $$.

    Thanks,
    George
    reply to group or reply to gtball at yahoo.com

    OK, it seems to me that these features were *all* part of the Avocet
    45/45TT computer. See:
    http://www.avocet.com/cyclopages/cyclo45tt.html. If you can find one,
    it should be right around $50. I had one five years ago, but I
    haven't seen another since. Mine started eating batteries...


  10. In article <[email hidden]>, <Unknown> says...

    Quoted message said:
    George Ball said:

    yeah, I used to have an Avocet TT45, but the wires were really flimsy. I
    still have the computer unit, and the Avocet website would let me order a
    mounting bracket/sensor/ unit etc.. But the rear wheel circular "magnet"
    is designed for simple 28 or 32 spoke wheels and doesn't work that great on
    other types of wheels.

    So use another magnet.

    It's a simple reed relay, it doesn't much care what magnet you use as long as
    there's enough pull to actuate it and you'll find that out real quick and
    simple.

    Not the Avocet TT45. It does not use a simple magnet. It uses a ring.
    Avocet makes more than one type of ring, and they others are easily modified,
    so you should be able to get it to work with your wheels.
    --------------------
    Alex

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