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    Drugs use in sports: more people caught out

    13/11/03 - The number of people caught using banned drugs in sports continues to rise. During the
    first nine months of the year 123 sports men and women were caught out by tests.

    Over 7 PC of tests proved positive against only 3 PC last year. Illicit drugs use is greatest
    among cyclists. Over 13 PC of cyclists tested were found to be positive. The testing authorities
    link the higher number of sports men and women caught out to increases in the number of tests and
    targeted checks.

    Fewer tests are leaking out beforehand says Flemish sports minister Marino Keulen. There are
    also major problems among Belgian jockeys. Both events at Ostend and Waregem (West-Flanders)
    were checked. Several jockeys tested positive. Others refused the test. They now face
    disciplinary measures.

    Volleyball and canoeing are among the cleanest Flemish sports as far as drugs use is concerned. The
    Flemish sports minister intends to post those sport men that proved positive on a web site as soon
    as new legislation is passed.

  2. on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought down
    an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

  3. Bob Schwartz said:

    rvi.beindex.html

    Drugs use in sports: more people caught out

    13/11/03 - The number of people caught using banned drugs in sports continues to rise. During the
    first nine months of the year 123 sports men and women were caught out by tests.

    Over 7 PC of tests proved positive against only 3 PC last year. Illicit drugs use is greatest
    among cyclists. Over 13 PC of cyclists tested were found to be positive. The testing authorities
    link the higher number of sports men and women caught out to increases in the number of tests and
    targeted checks.

    Imagine if they had a couple MLB teams...

    Quoted message said:

    Fewer tests are leaking out beforehand says Flemish sports minister Marino Keulen. There are also
    major problems among Belgian jockeys. Both events at Ostend and Waregem (West-Flanders) were
    checked. Several jockeys tested positive. Others refused the test. They now face disciplinary
    measures.

    Ok, I could use some enlightenment here. Why does a Jockey dope? To lose weight?

    Quoted message said:

    Volleyball and canoeing are among the cleanest Flemish sports as far as drugs use is concerned.
    The Flemish sports minister intends to post those sport men that proved positive on a web site as
    soon as new legislation is passed.

    Will it be called the Wall of Shame?

  4. Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

    on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought
    down an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

    I've been reading Tim Moore's French Revolutions. It's a bit of a shock, considering what he knew of
    Tom Simpson's demise, what kind of stupidity he engaged in (effectly as a cyclo-tourist) on Mt.
    Ventoux. The book got some good reviews, it's mostly amusing, somewhat informative, but I find the
    book more than a bit strange.

  5. Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

    on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    Quoted message said:

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought
    down an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

    You're not considered a master of doping until you coach one of your dad's pigeons to a chess match
    victory. Until then you are just a rank amateur.

    Just get Henry going about how smart his bird is and soon he will clue you in on the secrets.
    Henry's bird kicks ass at chess. And its not fat either.

    Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

  6. Richard Adams said:
    Quoted message said:

    Fewer tests are leaking out beforehand says Flemish sports minister Marino Keulen. There are also
    major problems among Belgian jockeys. Both events at Ostend and Waregem (West-Flanders) were
    checked. Several jockeys tested positive. Others refused the test. They now face disciplinary
    measures.

    Ok, I could use some enlightenment here. Why does a Jockey dope? To lose weight?

    I thought I was the only one asking this question! What are they doping with, anit-growth hormone?

  7. NobodyMan said:
    Richard Adams said:
    Quoted message said:

    Fewer tests are leaking out beforehand says Flemish sports minister Marino Keulen. There are also
    major problems among Belgian jockeys. Both events at Ostend and Waregem (West-Flanders) were
    checked. Several jockeys tested positive. Others refused the test. They now face disciplinary
    measures.

    Ok, I could use some enlightenment here. Why does a Jockey dope? To lose weight?

    I thought I was the only one asking this question! What are they doping with, anit-growth hormone?

    Maybe they started with drinking coffee at 5 years of age and got busted with a Thermos full of
    espresson while in the saddle.

  8. Richard Adams said:

    Ok, I could use some enlightenment here. Why does a Jockey dope? To lose weight?

    Diuretics, epehdra for weight loss, yes. Some amphetamine use, some other stimulants. And that's
    before you consider what the horse is doped up on...

  9. Van Hoorebeeck Bart <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought
    down an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

    This is not necessarily a joke. There has been an effort on the part of FIDE (International Chess
    Federation) to instore IOC drug testing. The idea is to try to qualify chess as an Olympic sport.

    There is also the fact that the governing body for tournament chess in the USA is the UCSF.

    -ilan

  10. Van Hoorebeeck Bart <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought
    down an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

    Oops, the chess federation is the USCF. Looks like I'm getting dyslexai in my old age.

    -ilan

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Ilan

    Vardi) said:

    Van Hoorebeeck Bart <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought
    down an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

    Oops, the chess federation is the USCF. Looks like I'm getting dyslexai in my old age.

    -ilan

    Ilan, Lysdexia is a sure sign of dain bramage.

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "Danger, you haven't seen the last of me!"
    "No, but the first of you turns my stomach!"
    Firesign Theatre

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  12. Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

    on the subject 'doping in Flanders':

    yesterday I used my Ventolin rather intensively during my competition chess game, and I brought
    down an opponent rated 300 points higher than me. TBC .....

    Just think if you took EPO you could take on Kasparov and Fritz at the same time and win (while
    simultaneously doing intervals on an indoor trainer).

  13. Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    You're not considered a master of doping until you coach one of your dad's pigeons to a chess
    match victory. Until then you are just a rank amateur.

    Just get Henry going about how smart his bird is and soon he will clue you in on the secrets.
    Henry's bird kicks ass at chess. And its not fat either.

    Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

    Speaking of pigeons, didn't Adri VanDer Pol once test positive for steriods and his excuse was that
    he had eaten a pigeon (the Dutch do eat them!) given to him by his friend. VanDer Pol had said that
    it was a racing pigeon which must have been given steroids and that is how they were in his system.

    This is probably up there with VDB's EPO for his anemic dog story - which must now be the fastest on
    the block.

    It's kind of funny the relationship some top pros have with vets - Landuyt and Dr Mabuse. The moral
    is never visit a horse doctor - unless your a horse, jockey or top pro cyclist.

  14. mr60percent said:

    Adri VanDer Pol

    Adri van der Poel. Nice story, I heard it too. The substance was strychnine apparently.

  15. mr60percent schreef:

    Quoted message said:

    Speaking of pigeons, didn't Adri VanDer Pol once test positive for steriods and his excuse was
    that he had eaten a pigeon (the Dutch do eat them!)

    It is very Old Skool, but pigeons are still considered quality meat for racers by some.

    On the other hand, they must be pretty young. Elder, muscled , doped up ones are just good for
    flavoring soup.

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