CyclingNews.Com - A pre-emptive strike

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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To Jeff Jones and any other CN people who follow rbr, let
it be known that I like the layout of CN, finding it
simple and useful. Good arrangment and stuff is pretty
easy to find. The simplicity of the site keeps me coming
back for results, news, articles and resource information.

In light of a few other sites I visit which seem hell bent
on a "New Look", feature bloat, flash and burying
everything under a succession of completely unrelated
pages, I thought I'd drop this note to say I appreciate
things kept simple and elegant. CN works wonderfully as
is. There is pretty much nothing that could be done to
the site to further endear it to me.

If there's a web-weenie bent on changing the site to make
it "Better" may I suggest the search, which seems to sort
everything by todays date and doesn't understand "roberto
heras" means only with those two keywords in that order.

Thanks for a great site and keeping it useable.

I completely agree!

Bob C.

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<snip>

Fear not, we don't have time for another redesign. It's a
lot better than it used to be :-)

I had an idea today to reduce the front page to the
following piece of HTML:

’

Think it'll work? Might have to do it in Flash 9.0 for it to
fly, but I reckon it has promise. You'll just have
to...extrapolate

Jeff

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

To Jeff Jones and any other CN people who follow rbr, let
it be known that I like the layout of CN, finding it
simple and useful. Good arrangment and stuff is pretty
easy to find. The simplicity of the site keeps me coming
back for results, news, articles and resource information.

In light of a few other sites I visit which seem hell bent
on a "New Look", feature bloat, flash and burying
everything under a succession of completely unrelated
pages, I thought I'd drop this note to say I appreciate
things kept simple and elegant. CN works wonderfully as
is. There is pretty much nothing that could be done to
the site to further endear it to me.

If there's a web-weenie bent on changing the site to make
it "Better" may I suggest the search, which seems to sort
everything by todays date and doesn't understand "roberto
heras" means only with those two keywords in that order.

Thanks for a great site and keeping it useable.

I think that these site updates that you refer to are from
site that are not getting the job done. I think we can all
see that CN is so it is great that you cited something for
its goodness, I doubt you have anything to worry about. I
can think of many sites that perform well for the owners and
have kept the same look for years.

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

To Jeff Jones and any other CN people who follow rbr, let
it be known that I like the layout of CN, finding it
simple and useful. Good arrangment and stuff is pretty
easy to find. The simplicity of the site keeps me coming
back for results, news, articles and resource information.

In light of a few other sites I visit which seem hell bent
on a "New Look", feature bloat, flash and burying
everything under a succession of completely unrelated
pages, I thought I'd drop this note to say I appreciate
things kept simple and elegant. CN works wonderfully as
is. There is pretty much nothing that could be done to
the site to further endear it to me.

If there's a web-weenie bent on changing the site to make
it "Better" may I suggest the search, which seems to sort
everything by todays date and doesn't understand "roberto
heras" means only with those two keywords in that order.

Thanks for a great site and keeping it useable.

Agreed. It's an excellent site. They seem to have plenty of
advertising, too, which is a good thing.

Dave

Yeah, like, Jeff Jones for president!!!

Then, a month later, the phone rang. Someone in a distant
state Jeff'd never heard of, had found his speech lying on
a table in a bus depot, read it, and passed it around to a
few friends.

Some of these people had made copies and passed them around
to more friends.

Eventually, people all over the state had read his speech
and, regardless of party affiliation, were nodding their
heads and saying "Whooooooaa!" to the premises and dreams
at the foundation of his campaign and at the root of his
very being.

A ground swell of grassroots sentiment forced a special
election which unanimously and immediately elected and
installed Jeff Jones as governor or president or secretary-
general of whatever form of government they had there.

A blue ribbon panel was appointed to help ease his
transition to power, though the bulk of this was
accomplished by just handing him the book about the 10 ways
to avoid vomiting on half a gallon of vodka in half an hour.

Then Jeff disappeared, which was the best charisma of all.
Anyway, the people had become so self righteous, it
nauseated him just to be around them.

But, every so often, he'd send a telegram to express his
sorrow at not being able to be there, that evening -- so
they wouldn't forget who their governor (or President?) was,
even if he was no longer inhabiting the same world, and no
longer driven by the same chemistries or geometries or
histories, or spellings.

Chris said:

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

To Jeff Jones and any other CN people who follow rbr, let
it be known that I like the layout of CN, finding it
simple and useful. Good arrangment and stuff is pretty
easy to find. The simplicity of the site keeps me coming
back for results, news, articles and resource information.

In light of a few other sites I visit which seem hell bent
on a "New Look", feature bloat, flash and burying
everything under a succession of completely unrelated
pages, I thought I'd drop this note to say I appreciate
things kept simple and elegant. CN works wonderfully as
is. There is pretty much nothing that could be done to
the site to further endear it to me.

If there's a web-weenie bent on changing the site to make
it "Better" may I suggest the search, which seems to sort
everything by todays date and doesn't understand "roberto
heras" means only with those two keywords in that order.

Thanks for a great site and keeping it useable.

I think that these site updates that you refer to are from
site that are not getting the job done. I think we can all
see that CN is so it is great that you cited something for
its goodness, I doubt you have anything to worry about. I
can think of many sites that perform well for the owners
and have kept the same look for years.

I was just thinking about it and how some other sites
change, for whatever reason, often for the worse. I'm an old-
school webdesigner, keep it simple and functional is my
credo. I felt it was worthwhile to actually put fingers to
keyboard to point out what a fine site it is and hopefully
Jeff will pass the praise on to the powers that be. More
often than not I feel sites change because users really
haven't said anything and site owners/managers feel an itch
to change. It's now been said and noted (by Jeff at least)
which I feel accomplishes where silence guarantees nothing.

(Years ago United Airlines changed their cargo website from
something simple and function to bloated, awkard and
frequently broken, though upon initial load it was pretty.
I told the rep. and he agreed completely, but management
felt the old site was to bland and needed a more
'professional' look. Yeah, some professional took a pile of
money and left a mess.)

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

<snip>

Fear not, we don't have time for another redesign. It's a
lot better than it used to be :-)

I had an idea today to reduce the front page to the
following piece of HTML:

’

Think it'll work? Might have to do it in Flash 9.0 for it
to fly, but I reckon it has promise. You'll just have
to...extrapolate

Jeff

How about publishing a XML web service or offering your
content in XML? I'm on the road a lot and have to "waste" a
lot of data to load non-PDA friendly cyclingnews.com. I'd
love to be able to just write a simple app to call a CN Web
Service to go grab today's news and results, and be able to
view it on my iPaq. I do similar stuff with traffic info and
other news now - so this would be a welcome addition. Until
then...I'll keep using a big chunk of data to get my
cyclingnews.

-a

Richard Adams said:

To Jeff Jones and any other CN people who follow rbr, let
it be known that I like the layout of CN, finding it
simple and useful. Good arrangment and stuff is pretty
easy to find. The simplicity of the site keeps me coming
back for results, news, articles and resource information.

I prefer the old layout.

Kyle Legate said:

I prefer the old layout.

What, like web.archive.orgweb.archive.orgOpen ↗
/www.cyclingnews.com/ ?

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Kyle Legate said:

I prefer the old layout.

What, like web.archive.orghttpOpen ↗
://www.cyclingnews.com/ ?

Nooooooooooooooooo! Not the blue box.

OK it was distinctive, but difficult to read. Also there was
a lot less info to put on the front page back then.

Jeff

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

<snip>

Fear not, we don't have time for another redesign. It's a
lot better than it used to be :-)

I had an idea today to reduce the front page to the
following piece of HTML:

’

Think it'll work? Might have to do it in Flash 9.0 for it
to fly, but I reckon it has promise. You'll just have
to...extrapolate

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Let me preface my comment with the acknowledgement that
cyclingnews.com is the best. However, I always wondered why
the top left had column was devoted to tech news rather than
moving the race coverage up to the top left. Just a small
suggestion that will mean I don't have to scroll down to get
my race news fix.

Otherwise, keep up the very good work.

Russ Baxter said:

coverage up to the top left. Just a small suggestion
that will mean I don't have to scroll down to get my
race news fix.

Ah, but then you will miss out on many fine advertisements.

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Russ Baxter said:

coverage up to the top left. Just a small suggestion
that will mean I don't have to scroll down to get my
race news fix.

Ah, but then you will miss out on many fine
advertisements.

They're very good you know. Hand crafted from the finest
electrons that money can buy.