Okay, it is now April 2nd and I can post this in the hopes of getting helpful serious responses from people who may have thought this request was an April Fools joke had I posted it yesterday.
I am writing a bicycle/cycling related romance story and I need to know some cycling terminology. What I am looking for are French phrases which describe certain cycling actions. Phrases such as Danceur sur le ? for Dancing on the pedals.
I read some of these terms some where but I can't find them now that I really need them.
Can any of you provide me with some of the French phrases about cycling along with their English meanings?
If not, or in addition to, can you direct me to some where on the web where I can find them.
He may not use all the terms you want, but he does have a good feel for bicycle racing stories. http://www.daveshields.com/
On Apr 2, 12:08 am, "Sir Ridesalot" <[email hidden]>
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Hello there.
Okay, it is now April 2nd and I can post this in the hopes of getting helpful serious responses from people who may have thought this request was an April Fools joke had I posted it yesterday.
I am writing a bicycle/cycling related romance story and I need to know some cycling terminology. What I am looking for are French phrases which describe certain cycling actions. Phrases such as Danceur sur le ? for Dancing on the pedals.
I read some of these terms some where but I can't find them now that I really need them.
Can any of you provide me with some of the French phrases about cycling along with their English meanings?
If not, or in addition to, can you direct me to some where on the web where I can find them.
He may not use all the terms you want, but he does have a good feel for bicycle racing stories.http://www.daveshields.com/
On Apr 2, 12:08 am, "Sir Ridesalot" <[email hidden]>
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Hello there.
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Okay, it is now April 2nd and I can post this in the hopes of getting helpful serious responses from people who may have thought this request was an April Fools joke had I posted it yesterday.
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I am writing a bicycle/cycling related romance story and I need to know some cycling terminology. What I am looking for are French phrases which describe certain cycling actions. Phrases such as Danceur sur le ? for Dancing on the pedals.
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I read some of these terms some where but I can't find them now that I really need them.
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Can any of you provide me with some of the French phrases about cycling along with their English meanings?
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If not, or in addition to, can you direct me to some where on the web where I can find them.
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Hi there.
Thanks but that site was no help. All it has are testimonials to how great that author's books are. :<(
He may not use all the terms you want, but he does have a good feel for bicycle racing stories.http://www.daveshields.com/
Thanks but that site was no help. All it has are testimonials to how great that author's books are. :<(
The search for zFrench bicycling terms continues.
Have you considered just emailing Sheldon? He does have a french-english bicycle dictionary on his site (though of course it is more technical in nature). However, I imagine a francophile of his disposition would probably be a good resource.
I picked up a couple of phrases when cycling in France.
"Bon route" -- something you say to a fellow cyclist.
If someone is climbing particularly well, you say:
"vous avez les chaussettes légères aujourd'hui"
Literally means: you have light socks today.
And if you're having a particularly poor day, you are being visited by "l'homme avec le marteau" (the man with the hammer). -- terry morse - Undiscovered Country Tours - http://www.udctours.com
I am writing a bicycle/cycling related romance story and I need to know some cycling terminology. What I am looking for are French phrases which describe certain cycling actions. Phrases such as Danceur sur le ? for Dancing on the pedals.
"En danseuse"
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I picked up a couple of phrases when cycling in France. "Bon route" -- something you say to a fellow cyclist.
Actually, that's "bonne route" (ze road, she ees femelle!) "Bonne" is pronounced like English "bun."
Sheldon "Francophile" Brown +------------------------------------+ | France, France...if not for you, | | the world would be alone! | | --Victor Hugo | +------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts É-U Télephone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://sheldonbrown.com/french/harris les pièces "introuvables" envoyé dans le monde entire
Actually, that's "bonne route" (ze road, she ees femelle!) "Bonne" is pronounced like English "bun."
Sheldon "Francophile" Brown
OK, fine, and then there is "supplesse". But inquiring minds want to know the French term for synchronicity - I assume if any group of Frenchmen want to ride together, they would have the panache to keep their pedals in synch.
Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as "suppleness" "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", "lissomness", "fluidity."
My understanding is that there is no exact English cognate for the cycling usage of this term.
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...But inquiring minds want to know the French term for synchronicity
According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m).
Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as "suppleness" "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", "lissomness", "fluidity."
My understanding is that there is no exact English cognate for the cycling usage of this term.
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...But inquiring minds want to know the French term for synchronicity
According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m).
Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
What strikes me as fishy here is if a person doesn't know enough French to know that everything is assigned a 'gender', how are they going to write a book in French? I took it in high school then realized that in California the state language is 'ugh' Mexican, not even proper Spanish. C'est la Vie. Bill (rusty in French) Baka
I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as "suppleness" "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", "lissomness", "fluidity."
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My understanding is that there is no exact English cognate for the cycling usage of this term.
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...But inquiring minds want to know the French term for synchronicity
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According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m).
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Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
What strikes me as fishy here is if a person doesn't know enough French to know that everything is assigned a 'gender', how are they going to write a book in French? I took it in high school then realized that in California the state language is 'ugh' Mexican, not even proper Spanish. C'est la Vie. Bill (rusty in French) Baka
Lots of writers will include some terms from a second language in a book. Unfortunately unless they or their editor is fairly fluent in that language some real howlers can get in. I used to keep track of the more flagrant French errors I would find in English language books. It was not rare to find all the entries in a book had errors of one kind or another. Often of the "j'ai aller au magasin" type.
I mentioned this on a.u.e and apparently this is common with a lot of other languages as well.
I even used to have a beret (great headware for winter cycling ) that had a label saying "Fait en Chine" .
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
BTW I do feel for you about the Mexican language. I was shocked to find that Americans don't speak proper English : They speak Amerrrican !
Curtis L. Russell a écrit: > OK, fine, and then there is "supplesse". I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as "suppleness" "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", "lissomness", "fluidity." My understanding is that there is no exact English cognate for the cycling usage of this term. > ...But inquiring minds want to > know the French term for synchronicity According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m). Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
What strikes me as fishy here is if a person doesn't know enough French to know that everything is assigned a 'gender', how are they going to write a book in French? I took it in high school then realized that in California the state language is 'ugh' Mexican, not even proper Spanish. C'est la Vie. Bill (rusty in French) Baka
Lots of writers will include some terms from a second language in a book. Unfortunately unless they or their editor is fairly fluent in that language some real howlers can get in. I used to keep track of the more flagrant French errors I would find in English language books. It was not rare to find all the entries in a book had errors of one kind or another. Often of the "j'ai aller au magasin" type.
I mentioned this on a.u.e and apparently this is common with a lot of other languages as well.
I even used to have a beret (great headware for winter cycling ) that had a label saying "Fait en Chine" .
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
BTW I do feel for you about the Mexican language. I was shocked to find that Americans don't speak proper English : They speak Amerrrican !
Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. Bill
Sheldon Brown wrote: > Curtis L. Russell a écrit: >> OK, fine, and then there is "supplesse". > I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as "suppleness" > "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", "lissomness", "fluidity." > My understanding is that there is no exact English cognate for the > cycling usage of this term. >> ...But inquiring minds want to >> know the French term for synchronicity > According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m). > Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | > | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts > Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 > http://harriscyclery.com > Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide >http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com What strikes me as fishy here is if a person doesn't know enough French to know that everything is assigned a 'gender', how are they going to write a book in French? I took it in high school then realized that in California the state language is 'ugh' Mexican, not even proper Spanish. C'est la Vie. Bill (rusty in French) Baka
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Lots of writers will include some terms from a second language in a book. Unfortunately unless they or their editor is fairly fluent in that language some real howlers can get in. I used to keep track of the more flagrant French errors I would find in English language books. It was not rare to find all the entries in a book had errors of one kind or another. Often of the "j'ai aller au magasin" type.
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I mentioned this on a.u.e and apparently this is common with a lot of other languages as well.
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I even used to have a beret (great headware for winter cycling ) that had a label saying "Fait en Chine" .
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John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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BTW I do feel for you about the Mexican language. I was shocked to find that Americans don't speak proper English : They speak Amerrrican !
Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. Bill
Nonsense you spelt 'colour' very well there. Just keep up the good work. 🙂
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Sheldon Brown wrote: > Curtis L. Russell a écrit: >> OK, fine, and then there is "supplesse". > I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as > "suppleness" "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", > "lissomness", "fluidity." My understanding is that there is no > exact English cognate for the cycling usage of this term. >> ...But inquiring minds want to >> know the French term for synchronicity > According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m). > Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | > | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts > Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 > http://harriscyclery.com > Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide > http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
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BTW I do feel for you about the Mexican language. I was shocked to find that Americans don't speak proper English : They speak Amerrrican !
Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. Bill
A couple of months ago I saw a Jeopardy contestant, who was obviously of UK extraction, miss a question about the periodic table of elements because he used the British pronunciation Aluminium instead of the American Aluminum. I kept expecting the judges to reverse the decision but they never did. I think he was robbed.
Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. Bill
A couple of months ago I saw a Jeopardy contestant, who was obviously of UK extraction, miss a question about the periodic table of elements because he used the British pronunciation Aluminium instead of the American Aluminum. I kept expecting the judges to reverse the decision but they never did. I think he was robbed.
Richard B.
One of the hazards of speaking American. He should have spoken up about that. It was Aluminium long before we perverted the language. Once, in a business encounter, I met a guy from Spain, and he agreed with me that the Mexicans now speak Mexican and not true Spanish. Distance and a few hundred years works wonders. Bill Baka
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On Apr 4, 5:19 pm, Bill <[email hidden]> wrote: > Sheldon Brown wrote: >> Curtis L. Russell a écrit: >>> OK, fine, and then there is "supplesse". >> I think you mean "souplesse (f)" which is translated as >> "suppleness" "adaptability", "flexibility", "litheness", >> "lissomness", "fluidity." My understanding is that there is no >> exact English cognate for the cycling usage of this term. >>> ...But inquiring minds want to >>> know the French term for synchronicity >> According to my Robert & Collins, it's synchronisme (m). >> Sheldon "Grenouille Honoraire" Brown >> +-------------------------------------------------------+ >> | Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile --Victor Hugo | >> | (The beautiful is as useful as the useful) | >> +-------------------------------------------------------+ >> Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts >> Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 >> http://harriscyclery.com >> Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide >>http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
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BTW I do feel for you about the Mexican language. I was shocked to find that Americans don't speak proper English : They speak Amerrrican !
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Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. Bill
A couple of months ago I saw a Jeopardy contestant, who was obviously of UK extraction, miss a question about the periodic table of elements because he used the British pronunciation Aluminium instead of the American Aluminum. I kept expecting the judges to reverse the decision but they never did. I think he was robbed.
Richard B.
I believe one can challange. I am sure I saw an episode where the official answer to a question set in the 1868 was the country of Germany. The participant correctly said Prussia and challanged on the basis that the Empire of Germany had not existed before 1870 or 1871. John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. Bill
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A couple of months ago I saw a Jeopardy contestant, who was obviously of UK extraction, miss a question about the periodic table of elements because he used the British pronunciation Aluminium instead of the American Aluminum. I kept expecting the judges to reverse the decision but they never did. I think he was robbed.
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Richard B.
One of the hazards of speaking American. He should have spoken up about that. It was Aluminium long before we perverted the language. Once, in a business encounter, I met a guy from Spain, and he agreed with me that the Mexicans now speak Mexican and not true Spanish. Distance and a few hundred years works wonders. Bill Baka
True. The French insist that they speak properly when everyone knows that it is Canadien French that is the true successor of Molière. In fact, I've heard that his humour goes over better here than in France since Canadians better understand the jokes. John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
Bill <[email hidden]> wrote in > Yes, I know we can't even spell colour or Aluminium. > Bill A couple of months ago I saw a Jeopardy contestant, who was obviously of UK extraction, miss a question about the periodic table of elements because he used the British pronunciation Aluminium instead of the American Aluminum. I kept expecting the judges to reverse the decision but they never did. I think he was robbed. Richard B.
One of the hazards of speaking American. He should have spoken up about that. It was Aluminium long before we perverted the language. Once, in a business encounter, I met a guy from Spain, and he agreed with me that the Mexicans now speak Mexican and not true Spanish. Distance and a few hundred years works wonders. Bill Baka
True. The French insist that they speak properly when everyone knows that it is Canadien French that is the true successor of Molière. In fact, I've heard that his humour goes over better here than in France since Canadians better understand the jokes. John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
Factor in that the French have NO sense of humor (humour?) and actually wanted to prevent the Internet going through France unless it was in French, and I will side with the Canadians. Bill Baka
Factor in that the French have NO sense of humor (humour?) and actually wanted to prevent the Internet going through France unless it was in French, and I will side with the Canadians. Bill Baka
What do you mean, "the French have no sense of humor"? Of course they do. Why else continue to field French cycling teams if not for laughs?
Factor in that the French have NO sense of humor (humour?) and actually wanted to prevent the Internet going through France unless it was in French, and I will side with the Canadians. Bill Baka
What do you mean, "the French have no sense of humor"? Of course they do. Why else continue to field French cycling teams if not for laughs?
You're a bad bad man. Am I bad person for laughing at that?
-- Dane Buson - [email hidden] The story includes this array of huge rhymes-with-hell machines, all running screensavers, the power and SAN cables neatly run between them... and the disused tape-storage closet stuffed with old Sun boxen still humming quietly away. - adb in ASR on rumours of a flawless SunOS to NT site cutover.
