After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
My cable company has several foreign channels that I can subscribe to. I also own a TVRO dish and receiver (that is, the older, large satellite dish). I can subscribe to many more channels there.
Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
My cable company has several foreign channels that I can subscribe to. I also own a TVRO dish and receiver (that is, the older, large satellite dish). I can subscribe to many more channels there.
Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
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After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
My cable company has several foreign channels that I can subscribe to. I also own a TVRO dish and receiver (that is, the older, large satellite dish). I can subscribe to many more channels there.
Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
Thanks, Tom
Euro sport has the best tv coverage. All the majors, and lots of the smaller stuff. Only problem is that it is not available in America.
A coupla years ago ( pantani era ) the local Italian station broadcast the giro from Italy RAI- the coverage was fantastic; I didn't understand the commentary, but oln abc and all the other numbskulls out there could've learned how to cover a stage race. don't know if rai covers the giro anymore if it is as good as I saw, or if it shows any other races but it might be worth investigating
good luck hunting
Laz
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After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
My cable company has several foreign channels that I can subscribe to. I also own a TVRO dish and receiver (that is, the older, large satellite dish). I can subscribe to many more channels there.
Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
A coupla years ago ( pantani era ) the local Italian station broadcast the giro from Italy RAI- the coverage was fantastic; I didn't understand the commentary, but oln abc and all the other numbskulls out there could've learned how to cover a stage race. don't know if rai covers the giro anymore if it is as good as I saw, or if it shows any other races but it might be worth investigating
RAI International does cover the giro on satelite (I remember watching it while sitting on a trainer recovering from a broken collar bone 2 years ago). However they give preference to football (aka US soccer) on weekends so you can end up missing large chunks of weekend mountain stages.
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After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
Err, can you think of a bigger story in last year's or this year's TdF? Like it or not, Lance is a huge story---going for 7 TdF victories? If Tiger Woods was going for his seventh Masters' I'm sure the hype would be bigger.
the point is though that this is their big chance to really leaver their way into the NA market. If they fail now, they will never see a better chance.
Laz
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After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
Err, can you think of a bigger story in last year's or this year's TdF?
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it or not, Lance is a huge story---going for 7 TdF victories? If Tiger
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was going for his seventh Masters' I'm sure the hype would be bigger.
We care about bicycle racing. Most of the rest of the North American people do not care about it. Face it, bicycle racing in North America is a very small, very niche market. I think we're lucky to get what we do. Remember, TV is still a business, and in business people like to make money. Cycling probably does not make that money for the TV stations. Simple as that. Take for instance, last weekend, 18 million people watched the Daytona 500. That's some bang for the buck right there. In America, if it doesn't involve a ball or a motor, generally people don't care about it.
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After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
I turned OLN off right after the TDF. Nothing else worth watching on that channel, so I have missed all the hype.
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My cable company has several foreign channels that I can subscribe to. I also own a TVRO dish and receiver (that is, the older, large satellite dish). I can subscribe to many more channels there. Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
Eurosport comes to mind. I don't think you can get it here. Also, your big dish won't pick them up since they don't beam a signal to the US. -------------- Alex
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We care about bicycle racing. Most of the rest of the North American people do not care about it. Face it, bicycle racing in North America is a very small, very niche market. I think we're lucky to get what we do. Remember, TV is still a business, and in business people like to make money. Cycling probably does not make that money for the TV stations. Simple as that. Take for instance, last weekend, 18 million people watched the Daytona 500. That's some bang for the buck right there. In America, if it doesn't involve a ball or a motor, generally people don't care about it.
That makes sense for other channels besides OLN. Cycling delivered the highest ratings in OLN history. So they made more money with cycling than with any other sport. If they were smart they would figure out how to tap that market for other races besides the TDF. I think the coverage they had for the TDF was overboard. There is no need to repeat the coverage more than once a day. They can do a live show in the morning and then repeat it once in the evening. That's it! They will capture most of the cycling viewers that way and still have space in their line up for hunting, rodeo, fishing and lumberjack shows. --------------- Alex
After OLN refused to cover the Vuelta last year and seeing that they are already hyping "Lance" in this years coverage I was wondering about alternatives.
My cable company has several foreign channels that I can subscribe to. I also own a TVRO dish and receiver (that is, the older, large satellite dish). I can subscribe to many more channels there.
Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
Thanks, Tom
If I could get euro channels i'd try and get eurosport, or RAI or FRANCE 2.
A coupla years ago ( pantani era ) the local Italian station broadcast the giro from Italy RAI- the coverage was fantastic; I didn't understand the commentary, but oln abc and all the other numbskulls out there could've learned how to cover a stage race. don't know if rai covers the giro anymore if it is as good as I saw, or if it shows any other races but it might be worth investigating
RAI International does cover the giro on satelite (I remember watching it while sitting on a trainer recovering from a broken collar bone 2 years ago). However they give preference to football (aka US soccer) on weekends so you can end up missing large chunks of weekend mountain stages.
Same here. On my digital I used to receive TLN which receives programming from RAI. THey showed the 2003 giro every day, one hour each morning. But not on weekends, so we missed al the big mountain stages including the Zoncolan. However, I finally got the entire tapes from someone else. Recently, RAI applied to the CRTC for a license and was denied, instead AL-Jazeera got licensed. I was kind of disappointed-not for the reasons everyone else was, but because Al Jazera is a news network and won't show sports. And at least RAI has cycling. Lots of soccer, of course, but at leastthey show other races besides the grand tours.
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RAI International does cover the giro on satelite (I remember watching
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while sitting on a trainer recovering from a broken collar bone 2 years ago). However they give preference to football (aka US soccer) on
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so you can end up missing large chunks of weekend mountain stages.
Same here. On my digital I used to receive TLN which receives programming from RAI. THey showed the 2003 giro every day, one hour each morning. But not on weekends, so we missed al the big mountain stages including the Zoncolan. However, I finally got the entire tapes from someone else. Recently, RAI applied to the CRTC for a license and was denied, instead AL-Jazeera got licensed. I was kind of disappointed-not for the reasons everyone else was, but because Al Jazera is a news network and won't show sports. And at least RAI has cycling. Lots of soccer, of course, but at leastthey show other races besides the grand tours.
Yup, granting the terrorist mouthpiece network license to air their baloney, garbage and just complete idiotic lies in place of something for the Italian community which helped build a considerable percentage of Canada's larger cities is a complete travesty-
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We care about bicycle racing. Most of the rest of the North American people do not care about it. Face it, bicycle racing in North America is a very small, very niche market. I think we're lucky to get what we do. Remember, TV is still a business, and in business people like to make money. Cycling probably does not make that money for the TV stations. Simple as that. Take for instance, last weekend, 18 million people watched the Daytona 500. That's some bang for the buck right there. In America, if it doesn't involve a ball or a motor, generally people don't care about it.
Tom
Yeah, but with Lance going for 7 there is the chance to capture the best viewship cycling will ever get. )Far more than Top Dog will in it's entire run). The trickle-down effect would be a greater respect for cyclists on the road, commenting etc. and the heath benefits for a convenient known for its chronic obesity and poor health lifestyle. There is no reason why if so many can watch 43 cars race on a circular track for hours on end, they can't get interested in a more personal sport. But you have sport-casters who show blooper reels of cyclists with stupid sounds and joke and cyclists become known as those crazy guys on 2 wheels. Then they solemnly go on about some golfer teeing up and how great that sport is. Seriously, if more folks contacted their local media and berated the manager everytime the sports reporter screws up a cycling report and makes cyclists look dumb we would get more respect on the road. To let the opportunity Lance presents us slip past means cycling will probably die out by the end of our lifetimes
Is there any European sports network that has cycling coverage as good or better than OLN? It doesn't have to be English. If anyone can give me suggestions I can take it from there.
Thanks, Tom
If I could get euro channels i'd try and get eurosport, or RAI or FRANCE 2.
RTBF Sat is showing Omloop Het Volk live on Saturday at 14h20 local time. They do show nearly all the big Belgian races. Eurosport next schedules Tirreno-Adriatico... Gazzetta seems to have dropped the TV listings from their site... All the best Dan Gregory