cycling multitool

dannyfrankszzz said:

Can anyone recommend a cycling multitool? I think there's a brand called Toppeak which is on the
market. Anyone have any views on this or other ones out there? What do they come with?

My Topeak Power 16 has kept me on the road for probably 5 years now and still looks like new.
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I've several multitools, Topeak Alien, Cooltool, and at least three others. The best in terms of
function and durability is undoubtedly the Cooltool, though its tools are limited. In some of the
others you will find that their tool is award or impossible to use on parts of your bike.

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Can anyone recommend a cycling multitool? I think there's a brand called Toppeak which is on the
market. Anyone have any views on this or other ones out there? What do they come with?

I've kind of given up on my Topeak Alien multi-tool. It has 90% of things you're likely to need, but
the quality of each individual tool is not great. I've pretty much swapped to using a decent 6"
Bacho adjustable spanner, a couple of allen keys (you'll only have one or two different sizes on
your bike), a chain tool and one of those fancy penknives with a pair of pliers in it (you can get
cheapo ones for about 5-8 quid). Plus the obvious puncture repair stuff.

Yes, this weighs more than a multi-tool, but I've had multi-tools bend/snap before. I tend to be the
one who ends up fixing friends' bikes at the start of a ride and mid-ride and I don't think there's
anything likely to go wrong that I couldn't at least do a kludge fix with.

Another problem with multi-tools is the spanners are often thin ring spanners. A friend had the
hydraulic brake pipe come loose and the only way to tighten it with a ring spanner would be to take
it off completely, thread the spanner on, tighten it up and then leave the entire multi-tool
dangling from the cable. An open ended adjustable is much more flexible.

Have fun!

Graeme

Just zis Guy said:

Speaking as a utility cyclist, not an ounce-counting roadie,

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I don't use a multitool. My Park chain tool is very good, and the only chain tool I have; it lives
in my on-the-bike toolbag. Ditto the set of Allen keys which includes one size I need for the
'bent and haven't seen on any multitool, and an excellent pair of 1950s WD Surplus snipe-nose
pliers, which work ten times better than the alleged pliers in any multitool I've ever used. By
the time I've assembled my small set of favourite "fits your hand" tools I've covered all the bits
of the multitool :-)

Oh good, I've found a reply today from Guy that I agree with :-)

I've looked at various multitools with interest but have failed to find anything that would work as
well or weigh much less* than the collection of individual tools I carry.

* I do like to save grams but multitools aren't all that light anyway - at least not the ones with
all the features I need. That's usually because they have a load of features I DON'T need!

~PB

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dannyfrankszzz said:

Can anyone recommend a cycling multitool? I think there's a brand called Toppeak which is on the
market. Anyone have any views on this or other ones out there? What do they come with?

Speaking as a utility cyclist, not an ounce-counting roadie, I don't use a multitool. My Park
chain tool is very good, and the only chain tool I have; it lives in my on-the-bike toolbag. Ditto
the set of Allen keys which includes one size I need for the 'bent and haven't seen on any
multitool, and an excellent pair of 1950s WD Surplus snipe-nose pliers, which work ten times
better than the alleged pliers in any multitool I've ever used. By the time I've assembled my
small set of favourite "fits your hand" tools I've covered all the bits of the multitool :-)

What do you use snipe-nose pliers for?

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Just zis Guy said:

Speaking as a utility cyclist, not an ounce-counting roadie,

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Quoted message said:

I don't use a multitool. My Park chain tool is very good, and the only chain tool I have; it
lives in my on-the-bike toolbag. Ditto the set of Allen keys which includes one size I need for
the 'bent and haven't seen on any multitool, and an excellent pair of 1950s WD Surplus
snipe-nose pliers, which work ten times better than the alleged pliers in any multitool I've
ever used. By the time I've assembled my small set of favourite "fits your hand" tools I've
covered all the bits of the multitool :-)

Oh good, I've found a reply today from Guy that I agree with :-)

I've looked at various multitools with interest but have failed to find anything that would work
as well or weigh much less* than the collection of individual tools I carry.

* I do like to save grams but multitools aren't all that light anyway - at least not the ones with
all the features I need. That's usually because they have a load of features I DON'T need!

I found in Cotswold Camping what they called a "Swiss Tool" ( I believe from Victorinox), which is a
steel bar about the size of a 7mm allen key with a socket for a screwdriver bit on each end. With a
full selection of 10 bits in the clip-on holder, and a Park chain tool and 8/10mm ring spanner, it's
still lighter & smaller than an Alien. I haven't found an 8mm allen bit yet, but everything else I
want is there, and easier to use than an Alien. If there's something odd that you want (In my case a
T20), it's just a matter of obtaining the appropriate screwdriver bit.

Andrew

Andrew Sweetman said:

I found in Cotswold Camping what they called a "Swiss Tool" ( I believe from Victorinox), which is
a steel bar about the size of a 7mm allen key with a socket for a screwdriver bit on each end.
With a full selection of 10 bits in the clip-on holder, and a Park chain tool and 8/10mm ring
spanner, it's still lighter & smaller than an Alien. I haven't found an 8mm allen bit yet, but
everything else I want is there, and easier to use than an Alien. If there's something odd that
you want (In my case a T20), it's just a matter of obtaining the appropriate screwdriver bit.

I can't find the tool that matches that description on the web now; the "Swiss Tool" seems something
different (with a load of pen knifey features). But that type of thing tends not to work as well as
ordinary 'L'-shape allen keys or small screwdriver - because of the bulk or awkward shape, or
insufficient leverage.

~PB

[SwissTool]

Found it now.... victorinox.comindex.htmOpen ↗ - SwissTool Plus with
wrench and bits. Looks promising (not too bulky). Thanks for mentioning it.

Anyone know if the wrench be bought separately? Or does anyone else make a similar tool?

Are there "allen key" male hex bits and available to fit? Does the tool take standard size bits
(what standard?)?

cheers ~PB

Frank said:

What do you use snipe-nose pliers for?

Releasing the SRAM powerlinks, any small electrical repairs, zipping up emergency zip ties, that
sort of thing. I suppose I could do without, but they are so useful when I do want them that it's
not worth the weight saving IMO. Said the man who recently upgraded to an XTR mech...

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Can anyone recommend a cycling multitool? I think there's a brand called Toppeak which is on the
market. Anyone have any views on this or other ones out there? What do they come with?

I've got a TopPeak Alien. It gets used more for workshop jobs than on the road, and the tyre levers
are a pain to use, so I end up taking separate ones anyway. I think RRP is too high, but I paid a
lot less than that so I don't mind. It's too big and heavy to carry on short road rides, and takes
up too much space in the wedge bag. The knife comes in useful for picking bits of glass out of the
tyre after puctures.

But generally, now that I've got used to the bikes, and what they need, I tend to take just the
tools I think might be useful. They fit in my wife's old beaded purse, which causes merriment on
club runs.

SteveP

dannyfrankszzz said:

Can anyone recommend a cycling multitool?

Cooltool. It's not the only good design, but it's the only one that isn't made out of cheese.

There's also room in its pouch for a couple of Park levers, a couple of patches and the little Allen
for the canti straddle.

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[SwissTool]

Found it now.... victorinox.comindex.htmOpen ↗ - SwissTool Plus with
wrench and bits. Looks promising (not too bulky). Thanks for mentioning it.

Anyone know if the wrench be bought separately? Or does anyone else make a similar tool?

Are there "allen key" male hex bits and available to fit? Does the tool take standard size bits
(what standard?)?

I got the just the wrench with bits for about £12 (ish) from the South Cerney branch of Cotswold
Camping about a year ago. As far as I can make out it's never been in either the printed catalogue
or the website - just the display cabinet. "Swiss Tool" was what it said on the price label, but I
was aware on the Leatherman clone, hence the quotes in my orignal post.

The bits are the same standard size (1/4 inch hex) as on all power screwdrivers etc, and are
available in sets from DIY, tool shops, Maplins etc. I have 2-6mm allen bits, torx T10-T40, sockets
5-11mm, assorted flat, philips and pozidrive screw and drill bits. I have seen sets with all sorts
of odd "security" fittings - square, 5-sided, torx with a pin in the middle etc etc, if you want to
find wierd bolts to make sure no-one pinches your parts.

All I'm really missing is the 8mm allen bit for the crank bolts. A 4mm ball-ended allen bit would
also be handy for where my rack bolts onto the insides of the seatstays, as the wrench + bit is
slightly too long to fit
in.

Andrew