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  1. Prof Honored for Solving Old Math Problem
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051227/ap_on_re_us/math_problem;_ylt=Aq56HXBtpHNnFUU66x98HJkPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia is
    being recognized for solving a math problem that had stumped his peers for
    more than 40 years.

    The achievement has landed Steven Hofmann an invitation to speak next spring
    at the 2006 International Congress of Mathematicians in Madrid, Spain.
    "It is like a baseball player being picked for the all-star team," Hofmann
    said of the invitation to the event, which is held every four years.

    The problem, known as Kato's Conjecture, applies to the theory of waves
    moving through different media, such as seismic waves traveling through
    different types of rock. It bears the name of Tosio Kato, a now-deceased
    mathematician at the University of California-Berkeley, who posed the
    problem in research papers first written in 1953 and again in 1961.

    .... the problem began to take over his life in 1996. Until he solved it in
    2000, it was the last thing he thought about before he went to bed and the
    first thing he thought about when he woke. He spent two to eight hours each
    day on the problem, working periodically with several colleagues.

    "I could be out for a bike ride, and I would be thinking about it," Hofmann
    told The Kansas City Star. "Sometimes I would be doing something, get an
    idea and have to stop ... and write it down."

  2. Mike Kruger said:

    Prof Honored for Solving Old Math Problem

    http://tinyurl.com/ba85y

    I see why you didn't explain what that problem is or how it relates to
    bicycling after looking into its definition:

    # Abstract

    # Kato's conjecture, stating that the domain of the square root of any
    # accretive operator $L=-\dive(A\nabla)$ with bounded measurable
    # coefficients in $\mathbb{R}^n$ is the Sobolev space
    # $H^1(\mathbb{R}^n)$, i.e. the domain of the underlying sesquilinear
    # form, has recently been obtained by Auscher, Hofmann, Lacey,
    # M\texsuperscript^{c}Intosh and the author. These notes present the
    # result and explain the strategy of proof.

    Quoted message said:

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A professor at the University of
    Missouri-Columbia is being recognized for solving a math problem
    that had stumped his peers for more than 40 years.

    Quoted message said:

    The achievement has landed Steven Hofmann an invitation to speak
    next spring at the 2006 International Congress of Mathematicians in
    Madrid, Spain. "It is like a baseball player being picked for the
    all-star team," Hofmann said of the invitation to the event, which
    is held every four years.

    Quoted message said:

    The problem, known as Kato's Conjecture, applies to the theory of
    waves moving through different media, such as seismic waves
    traveling through different types of rock. It bears the name of
    Tosio Kato, a now-deceased mathematician at the University of
    California-Berkeley, who posed the problem in research papers first
    written in 1953 and again in 1961.

    Quoted message said:

    ... the problem began to take over his life in 1996. Until he
    solved it in 2000, it was the last thing he thought about before he
    went to bed and the first thing he thought about when he woke. He
    spent two to eight hours each day on the problem, working
    periodically with several colleagues.

    Quoted message said:

    "I could be out for a bike ride, and I would be thinking about it,"
    Hofmann told The Kansas City Star. "Sometimes I would be doing
    something, get an idea and have to stop ... and write it down."

    My impression is that the bicycling connection is tenuous.

    Jobst Brandt

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My impression is that the bicycling connection is tenuous.

    Jobst Brandt

    It was an interesting article, on topic by the definition of the newsgroup.
    The tradition of cycling mathematicians is long and rich. Even the
    mathematician-hero of the current CBS series "Numb3rs" has been shown
    cycling at least once.

    I'm aware of the fact that someone has been impersonating you recently, but
    it's sometimes hard to tell the difference. Both you and the impersonator
    seem to be equally sour lately.

    RichC

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] quotes:

    Quoted message said:

    # Abstract

    # Kato's conjecture, stating that the domain of the square root of any
    # accretive operator $L=-\dive(A\nabla)$ with bounded measurable
    # coefficients in $\mathbb{R}^n$ is the Sobolev space
    # $H^1(\mathbb{R}^n)$, i.e. the domain of the underlying sesquilinear
    # form, has recently been obtained by Auscher, Hofmann, Lacey,
    # M\texsuperscript^{c}Intosh and the author. These notes present the
    # result and explain the strategy of proof.

    Kewl!! TeX! And apparently composed in emacs! I'm almost tempted to
    write a convertion program (in SNOBOL4 of course) that'll format the
    above to a dvi-able .tex file. The PERL people could write something
    screamingly faster, but mine would be prettier. And probably better
    self-documenting.

    I'm feeling a wistful, bittersweet nostalgia now.

    Quoted message said:

    My impression is that the bicycling connection is tenuous.

    Anyways, WYSIWYG and MS PageMaker, as well as bloated 3.n GL
    database-building software has ruined the art of computer
    programming. Anyone can monkey around with Oracle, if they've
    got the storage. bTrieve took not only know-how, but know-where,
    know-why, etc. I'm amused by attempts to similarly use high-tech
    to dumb-down bicycling, with stuff like "automated" gear shifting
    and re-reinvented "seats". People these days seem to fear knowledge,
    or at least, the need to acquire and use it. Technology can be good,
    but not when there's a lazy & complacent reliance on it.

    I suppose bicycling can be a form of thought-condusive peripatism.
    I enjoyed the PBS/Nova treatment of Richard Stoll's "The Cuckoo's Egg",
    in which he rode his bicycle for a lot of his primary transportation.
    I came away with the impression that that helped his investigative
    thought processes.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  5. "Mike Kruger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Prof Honored for Solving Old Math Problem

    Quoted message said:

    ... the problem began to take over his life in 1996. Until he solved it in
    2000, it was the last thing he thought about before he went to bed and the
    first thing he thought about when he woke. He spent two to eight hours
    each day on the problem, working periodically with several colleagues.

    "I could be out for a bike ride, and I would be thinking about it,"
    Hofmann told The Kansas City Star. "Sometimes I would be doing something,
    get an idea and have to stop ... and write it down."

    In the book, "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral
    Mind" (a book I'd recommend, BTW), the author says that there are
    traditionally three places, the three Bs, in which great discoveries are
    made: Bed, Bath and Bus. In other words, when you are intellectually focused
    on the problem, you are stuck. When you have the opportunity to relax, you
    can then listen to the intuitive side, and make the leaps of insight needed.

    Perhaps a fourth B could be added to the list where great discoveries are
    made: the Bike.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
    See the books I've set free at:
    http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  6. Claire Petersky said:
    Quoted message said:

    Prof Honored for Solving Old Math Problem

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ... the problem began to take over his life in 1996. Until he
    solved it in 2000, it was the last thing he thought about before he
    went to bed and the first thing he thought about when he woke. He
    spent two to eight hours each day on the problem, working
    periodically with several colleagues.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "I could be out for a bike ride, and I would be thinking about it,"
    Hofmann told The Kansas City Star. "Sometimes I would be doing
    something, get an idea and have to stop... and write it down."

    Quoted message said:

    In the book, "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the
    Bicameral Mind" (a book I'd recommend, BTW), the author says that
    there are traditionally three places, the three Bs, in which great
    discoveries are made: Bed, Bath and Bus. In other words, when you
    are intellectually focused on the problem, you are stuck. When you
    have the opportunity to relax, you can then listen to the intuitive
    side, and make the leaps of insight needed.

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps a fourth B could be added to the list where great
    discoveries are made: the Bike.

    I find the attribution to the "B's" can be reduced to the "B" or
    background processing. It is what we do when putting a problem aside
    to do something else. When returning to the problem some or all of
    the solution has been worked out in the subconscious. I don't believe
    in the bus, bath and bed theory but rather in background processing.

    The same occurs when bicycling and looking for certain objects such as
    wildlife. While just riding along, the background processor monitors
    things in peripheral vision and alerts the mind that the item is "over
    there". Dreams are a form of background processing.

    Jobst Brandt

  7. "Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In the book, "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the
    Bicameral Mind" (a book I'd recommend, BTW), the author says that there
    are traditionally three places, the three Bs, in which great discoveries
    are made: Bed, Bath and Bus. In other words, when you are intellectually
    focused on the problem, you are stuck. When you have the opportunity to
    relax, you can then listen to the intuitive side, and make the leaps of
    insight needed.

    Perhaps a fourth B could be added to the list where great discoveries are
    made: the Bike.

    I've made no great discoveries in my life (and only the usual number of
    rediscoveries), and I rarely feel comfortable moving my focus away from the
    road and the surrounding traffic.

    But I frequently find that immediately after a ride the solutions to
    troubling problems present themselves easily, as if some part of my mind had
    been freed to work them by my conscious mind removing focus from them
    entirely.

    For this reason, I try to schedule meetings for a half-hour after I arrive
    at work. I don't do nearly as well at afternoon meetings.

    The combination of a relaxed subconscious, a jolt of endorphins, and lowered
    blood pressure seems to move my mental functioning to a higher level, at
    least for a couple of hours.

    RichC

  8. Tom Keats said:

    Kewl!! TeX! And apparently composed in emacs!

    Umm, the difference between TeX composed in emacs, and TeX composed on any
    other editor, would be what?

    Quoted message said:

    I suppose bicycling can be a form of thought-condusive peripatism.

    Y'know, when you try to use fancy words, you ought to turn on your
    spellchecker.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | It is probably that television drama of high caliber and
    _`\(,_ | produced by first-rate artists will materially raise the level
    (_)/ (_) | of dramatic taste in the nation. -- David Sarnoff, 1939

  9. Rich Clark said:

    For this reason, I try to schedule meetings for a half-hour after I arrive
    at work. I don't do nearly as well at afternoon meetings.

    If you are more productive in the mornings, by all means schedule meetings
    for the afternoon.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
    _`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
    (_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
    kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Claire said:

    discoveries are made: Bed, Bath and Bus. ... Perhaps a fourth B could be
    added to the list where great
    discoveries are made: the Bike.

    I find the attribution to the "B's" can be reduced to the "B" or
    background processing. It is what we do when putting a problem aside
    to do something else. When returning to the problem some or all of
    the solution has been worked out in the subconscious. I don't believe
    in the bus, bath and bed theory but rather in background processing.


    Yes, but 3 B's sounds so much better if you are trying to sell a book.
    Just like the 4 P's in marketing (product, place, promotion, price) or the 4
    C's (various versions).

    The bicycling connection to the solution of Kato's conjecture is tenuous, I
    admit.. I do find bicycling a form of background processing. I think it
    works because the problem gets stripped down a bit in the background, so the
    essential elements can come through without fluff.

    While in grad school, I used to keep a pad and pen next to my bed in hopes
    of writing down any brilliant thoughts that occured to me while sleeping.
    None of these brilliant thoughts survived the cold light of day. I still
    keep the pad there, but it's not for deep thoughts so much as stuff like
    "buy milk tomorrow".

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David L. Johnson said:
    Tom Keats said:

    Kewl!! TeX! And apparently composed in emacs!

    Umm, the difference between TeX composed in emacs, and TeX composed on any
    other editor, would be what?

    Appropriacy.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I suppose bicycling can be a form of thought-condusive peripatism.

    Y'know, when you try to use fancy words, you ought to turn on your
    spellchecker.

    I sincerely hope the rest of your life improovz from now on.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  12. I am reminded of a story, possibly apocryphal, that I once read. A
    reporter asked Einstein whether his theory of relativity came to him
    all at once or over a long period of time. Einstein, replied, "Both."
    Regards, Roy Zipris

  13. Mike Kruger said:

    Prof Honored for Solving Old Math Problem
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051227/ap_on_re_us/math_problem;_ylt=Aq56HXBtpHNnFUU66x98HJkPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia is
    being recognized for solving a math problem that had stumped his peers for
    more than 40 years.

    The achievement has landed Steven Hofmann an invitation to speak next spring
    at the 2006 International Congress of Mathematicians in Madrid, Spain.
    "It is like a baseball player being picked for the all-star team," Hofmann
    said of the invitation to the event, which is held every four years.

    The problem, known as Kato's Conjecture, applies to the theory of waves
    moving through different media, such as seismic waves traveling through
    different types of rock. It bears the name of Tosio Kato, a now-deceased
    mathematician at the University of California-Berkeley, who posed the
    problem in research papers first written in 1953 and again in 1961.

    ... the problem began to take over his life in 1996. Until he solved it in
    2000, it was the last thing he thought about before he went to bed and the
    first thing he thought about when he woke. He spent two to eight hours each
    day on the problem, working periodically with several colleagues.

    "I could be out for a bike ride, and I would be thinking about it," Hofmann
    told The Kansas City Star. "Sometimes I would be doing something, get an
    idea and have to stop ... and write it down."

    I overlooked this thread at first, not being a mathematician, thinking
    it was going to be about the O J Simpson trial.

  14. catzz66"

    Quoted message said:

    I overlooked this thread at first, not being a mathematician, thinking it
    was going to be about the O J Simpson trial.

    I thought Kato's conjecture was, "Shouldn't Britt Reid be the sidekick? I'm
    the one who knows kung fu."

    --
    Paul Turner

  15. "Paul Turner" wrote: I thought Kato's conjecture was, "Shouldn't Britt
    Reid be the sidekick? (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    And I confused it at first with Tonto's conjecture, but that was, "What do
    you mean 'We,' Kimo Sabe?"

  16. Tom Keats said:

    Kewl!! TeX! And apparently composed in emacs! I'm almost tempted to
    write a convertion program (in SNOBOL4 of course) that'll format the
    above to a dvi-able .tex file. The PERL people could write something
    screamingly faster, but mine would be prettier. And probably better
    self-documenting.

    I have SNOBOL3 on my UNIX-PC, which may still work, at least
    it was still working when it went into the closet.

    man sno

    --
    Ron Hardin
    [email hidden]

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

  17. Claire Petersky said:

    "Mike Kruger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Prof Honored for Solving Old Math Problem

    Quoted message said:

    ... the problem began to take over his life in 1996. Until he solved it in
    2000, it was the last thing he thought about before he went to bed and the
    first thing he thought about when he woke. He spent two to eight hours
    each day on the problem, working periodically with several colleagues.

    "I could be out for a bike ride, and I would be thinking about it,"
    Hofmann told The Kansas City Star. "Sometimes I would be doing something,
    get an idea and have to stop ... and write it down."

    In the book, "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral
    Mind" (a book I'd recommend, BTW), the author says that there are
    traditionally three places, the three Bs, in which great discoveries are
    made: Bed, Bath and Bus. In other words, when you are intellectually focused
    on the problem, you are stuck. When you have the opportunity to relax, you
    can then listen to the intuitive side, and make the leaps of insight needed.

    Perhaps a fourth B could be added to the list where great discoveries are
    made: the Bike.

    In my experience the bike beats the bus anyday 🙂 I did some of my
    best thinking for my master's thesis while cycling to and from the
    university.
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted post said:

    In my experience the bike beats the bus anyday 🙂

    That's true in a number of ways. Not the least of
    which is reduced exposure to germ-laden sick people.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ron Hardin said:

    I have SNOBOL3 on my UNIX-PC, which may still work, at least
    it was still working when it went into the closet.

    man sno

    A version is available here, but it's a Java implementation.
    http://serl.cs.colorado.edu/~dennis/software/s3.html

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  20. Tom Keats said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David L. Johnson said:

    Y'know, when you try to use fancy words, you ought to turn on your
    spellchecker.

    Quoted message said:

    So, despite your momentary acerbity, I still like you, and I
    understand how life experience can take its toll. You're still
    a good guy, with good & valid things to say, ya grouch, ya! :-)

    Sorry to [censored] you off, Tom. I kinda thought that the "thought-condusive
    peripatism" was a bit over the top. Forget I said anything.

    BTW, I still don't see how you can tell whether or not TeX was composed in
    emacs. But then, I hate emacs. I never could see the use of an editor
    that required you to have a manual open on your lap, to use the darn thing.

    Happy New Year, anyway.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
    _`\(,_ | conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw
    (_)/ (_) |

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