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  1. I've been cycling for a few years, and commute to work as well (only 2 days
    a week).

    For rainy weather I have an old Mountain Range Gore Tex coat I bought when
    working in the Scottish mountains in 1995. It's only a thin shell, and being
    a walking coat goes down to nearly my knees. It has a velcro flap to cover
    the zip once done up. I've used this over the years for cycling instead of
    walking up grand scottish mountains in. Trouble is that it is so long and
    the velcro rubs away at my cycling shorts as well, making them look shabby.
    The coat flaps about in the wind and isn't really practical for cycling, but
    I've put up with it all these years.

    For colder weather I have a cheapo cotton type coat which is pretty decent,
    but it too is a bit too voluminous, and flaps around like mad on a windy
    day.

    So with my b'day fast approaching, I thought I'd get myself a new coat.

    Would those of you in the know recommend 2 coats (a thin but warmish close
    fitting coat and a waterproof coat) to replace my current 2, or one that
    does both jobs? I like the idea of one replacing the two, but have no idea
    what to look for. It doesn't really have to be thick and warm, just another
    layer offering more warmth than a cycling jersey, but not so much warmth
    that you cook while cycling in it.

    I know there are hundreds of online shops, real shops, offering thousands of
    designs and makes and brands, but personal recommendation normally works far
    better than feeling like I've been lied to by a shop assistant.

    Thanks

    Jim

    --
    wasting my time since 2000 - http://jimpix.co.uk

  2. in message <[email hidden]>, Jim

    (') said:

    Would those of you in the know recommend 2 coats (a thin but warmish
    close fitting coat and a waterproof coat) to replace my current 2, or
    one that does both jobs? I like the idea of one replacing the two, but
    have no idea what to look for. It doesn't really have to be thick and
    warm, just another layer offering more warmth than a cycling jersey,
    but not so much warmth that you cook while cycling in it.

    I wear an Altura Nevis breathable waterproof, which is throughly
    effective, inexpensive, and I see a lot of other cyclists wearing.
    Recommended, but really only for when it's actually precipitating.
    Otherwise in winter I wear a Campagnolo winter jersey - extremely
    densely knitted and fairly windproof - usually with a silk vest under
    it. Again, I know a lot of other cyclists with identical jerseys.

    My better half is promising me a windproof gilet for seriously cold
    weather this winter, and her garments tend to be several notches up on
    what you can get in the shops.

    Also, do not forget your buff.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; An enamorata is for life, not just for weekends.

  3. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Jim

    (') said:

    Would those of you in the know recommend 2 coats (a thin but warmish
    close fitting coat and a waterproof coat) to replace my current 2, or
    one that does both jobs? I like the idea of one replacing the two, but
    have no idea what to look for. It doesn't really have to be thick and
    warm, just another layer offering more warmth than a cycling jersey,
    but not so much warmth that you cook while cycling in it.

    I wear an Altura Nevis breathable waterproof, which is throughly
    effective, inexpensive, and I see a lot of other cyclists wearing.
    Recommended, but really only for when it's actually precipitating.
    Otherwise in winter I wear a Campagnolo winter jersey - extremely
    densely knitted and fairly windproof - usually with a silk vest under
    it. Again, I know a lot of other cyclists with identical jerseys.

    My better half is promising me a windproof gilet for seriously cold
    weather this winter, and her garments tend to be several notches up on
    what you can get in the shops.

    Also, do not forget your buff.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; An enamorata is for life, not just for


    weekends.

    Lusso £50 effort if it's pouring- you get hottish but it does have undearm
    zips and a baffle vent across the back. For cold weather a De marchi Contour
    fit jacket over a thermal. It's showerproof and windproof.

    HTH
    Julia

  4. Simon Brooke [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Also, do not forget your buff.

    Quite possibly the best part of all the winter gear I bought last year.
    Now I just need a winter cold enough for me to need thermal, top &
    waterproof without suffering heatstroke!

    Jon

  5. What's a buff then?

    Jim

  6. Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    You've never cycled in the buff?

    Tony ;-)

  7. Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    http://www.buffwear.co.uk/

  8. Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    Buffs are ace. www.buffwear.com iirc (might be .co.uk)

    --

    Velvet

  9. On 16/9/04 11:05 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "Simon Brooke"

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Jim

    (') said:

    Would those of you in the know recommend 2 coats (a thin but warmish
    close fitting coat and a waterproof coat) to replace my current 2, or
    one that does both jobs? I like the idea of one replacing the two, but
    have no idea what to look for. It doesn't really have to be thick and
    warm, just another layer offering more warmth than a cycling jersey,
    but not so much warmth that you cook while cycling in it.

    I wear an Altura Nevis breathable waterproof, which is throughly
    effective, inexpensive, and I see a lot of other cyclists wearing.

    It is Britains most popular cycling jacket, and not without reason.

    I too have one and like it a lot.

    Quoted message said:

    Recommended, but really only for when it's actually precipitating.
    Otherwise in winter I wear a Campagnolo winter jersey - extremely
    densely knitted and fairly windproof - usually with a silk vest under
    it. Again, I know a lot of other cyclists with identical jerseys.

    My better half is promising me a windproof gilet for seriously cold
    weather this winter, and her garments tend to be several notches up on
    what you can get in the shops.

    Also, do not forget your buff.

    I have a pertex windshirt (home made) lovingly termed teh 'sausage skin' by
    SWMBO as I have put on a little weight since I first made it to fit over a
    helly hansen thermal top.. Also very good until precipitation is more than
    just 'soft'.

    If you get the Altura you won't be too disappointed.

    ...d

  10. Succorso <chris@_LEAVE_ME_ALONE_SPAMMER_LOWLIFE_ivy-house.net> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    http://www.buffwear.co.uk/

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?
    Dave

  11. David said:

    Succorso <chris@_LEAVE_ME_ALONE_SPAMMER_LOWLIFE_ivy-house.net> wrote in
    message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    http://www.buffwear.co.uk/

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed.

    It's a useful tube of stretchy fabric cleverly marketed. It can also
    provide minutes of entertainment over a post-ride pint as people vie to
    wear a Buff in the silliest way posible.

    Quoted message said:

    Do people buy these things ?

    Yes. Though mine was a freebie in an adventure race.

    Colin

  12. David said:

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?

    Yes.

    Is it because they're cleverly marketed? Maybe in part, but at least in
    part for me I use them because IME they're actually very good. It /is/
    "a piece of fabric", but more than that it's a stretchy, comfortable
    fabric in a seamless tube that can be used variously as a bandana, hat,
    hair ribbon, scarf or if you really want a blindfold.

    Goretex. It's just a bit of teflon, cleverly marketed. Does that mean
    it's no use in bad weather?

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  13. On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:34:40 +0100, Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David said:

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?

    Yes.

    Is it because they're cleverly marketed? Maybe in part, but at least in
    part for me I use them because IME they're actually very good. It /is/
    "a piece of fabric", but more than that it's a stretchy, comfortable
    fabric in a seamless tube that can be used variously as a bandana, hat,
    hair ribbon, scarf or if you really want a blindfold.

    ....sweatband, neckerchief,...

    Colin

  14. David said:

    Succorso <chris@_LEAVE_ME_ALONE_SPAMMER_LOWLIFE_ivy-house.net> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    http://www.buffwear.co.uk/

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?

    In cold weather, it is surprisingly effective to wear something like
    a scarf.
    I always say that it helps keep the carotid arteries warm, but probably
    more like keeps cold air going down the neck.

    I use a Parrot multi-purpose hat, which is a fleece band which you can
    close with a toggle to make a hat.
    Sadly Parrot are no more.

  15. Colin Blackburn said:

    On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:34:40 +0100, Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David said:

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?

    Yes.

    Is it because they're cleverly marketed? Maybe in part, but at least in
    part for me I use them because IME they're actually very good. It /is/
    "a piece of fabric", but more than that it's a stretchy, comfortable
    fabric in a seamless tube that can be used variously as a bandana, hat,
    hair ribbon, scarf or if you really want a blindfold.

    ...sweatband, neckerchief,...

    Highwayman's mask? Stand and deliver!

  16. ScumOfTheRoad said:
    David said:

    Succorso <chris@_LEAVE_ME_ALONE_SPAMMER_LOWLIFE_ivy-house.net> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Jim wrote:

    >What's a buff then?
    >
    >Jim
    >
    >

    http://www.buffwear.co.uk/

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?

    In cold weather, it is surprisingly effective to wear something like
    a scarf.
    I always say that it helps keep the carotid arteries warm, but probably
    more like keeps cold air going down the neck.

    I use a Parrot multi-purpose hat, which is a fleece band which you can
    close with a toggle to make a hat.
    Sadly Parrot are no more.


    Buff also carry somethign much like that now :-)

    --

    Velvet

  17. "David" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Succorso <chris@_LEAVE_ME_ALONE_SPAMMER_LOWLIFE_ivy-house.net> wrote in
    message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jim said:

    What's a buff then?

    Jim

    http://www.buffwear.co.uk/

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?
    Dave

    I have two. One summer one, one winter. In summer, I often just use mine on
    my wrist as a sweatband, but on a demanding ride, it goes on the head. In
    winter I'm fully balaclava'd up with two buffs, and thouroughly happy with
    my purchases.

  18. Jim said:

    Would those of you in the know recommend 2 coats (a thin but warmish
    close fitting coat and a waterproof coat) to replace my current 2, or
    one that does both jobs? I like the idea of one replacing the two,
    but have no idea what to look for. It doesn't really have to be thick
    and warm, just another layer offering more warmth than a cycling
    jersey, but not so much warmth that you cook while cycling in it.

    Most of the cold felt when cycling is from the wind-chill effect so I
    suggest getting some windproof clothing instead of a "warm coat" (which
    *will* be too sweaty sometimes), and a separate rain jacket. Multiple
    thin layers are much more versatile.

    In the coldest weather I use a Lusso Gilet + Ozzo September Jacket, plus
    sometimes a Lusso Chest Protector when it's below freezing. I carry a
    Lusso Aquacape (non breathable waterproof jacket) for the rain.

    The above are all quite inexpensive. You'll find better garments (with
    pockets and refelctives) if prepared to pay more.

    ~PB

  19. On 17/9/04 11:35 am, in article [email hidden], "Colin

    Blackburn said:

    On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:34:40 +0100, Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David said:

    Its a piece of fabric , cleverly marketed. Do people buy these things ?

    Yes.

    Is it because they're cleverly marketed? Maybe in part, but at least in
    part for me I use them because IME they're actually very good. It /is/
    "a piece of fabric", but more than that it's a stretchy, comfortable
    fabric in a seamless tube that can be used variously as a bandana, hat,
    hair ribbon, scarf or if you really want a blindfold.

    ...sweatband, neckerchief,...

    shopping bag, water filter, bandage, tourniquet.

    ...d

  20. ScumOfTheRoad <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    In cold weather, it is surprisingly effective to wear something like
    a scarf.
    I always say that it helps keep the carotid arteries warm, but probably
    more like keeps cold air going down the neck.

    Stpos jugular veins and neck skin getting cold.

    I have posted the marvels of a silk scarf before. (Polyester aren't
    *quite* as warm or compact when folded, but are cheaper and easier to
    wash)

    Folds up very small.
    Can be worn under helmet, knotted under chin to keep ears warm.
    Round neck will stop heat loss through its (usually) thin skin.

    I still use my ancient Tie Rack snoods as well.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

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