Cycling and vegetarianism

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:36:46 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Preston Crawford wrote:
:: I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel
:: good, especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started
:: eating fish again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking
:: of starting turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg
:: whites and yogurt I should be good to go in terms of protein.
::
:: Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing the
:: right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like soy
:: before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of its
:: ease of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick
:: sandwich and theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

Eat the turkey.

::
:: Preston

I you want easy, try whey protein. One scoop (typically) is 20 grams of
protein.

--
Bob in CT
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Preston Crawford wrote:
:: I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel
:: good, especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started
:: eating fish again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking
:: of starting turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg
:: whites and yogurt I should be good to go in terms of protein.
::
:: Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing the
:: right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like soy
:: before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of its
:: ease of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick
:: sandwich and theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

Eat the turkey.

::
:: Preston

Roger Zoul said:

Eat the turkey.

Post of the week.

Bill "of course, it's only Tuesday" S.

S o r n i wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: Eat the turkey.
::
:: Post of the week.
::
:: Bill "of course, it's only Tuesday" S.

Hey, wasn't that the question? Maybe I get a IOW nomination 🙂

In article <[email hidden]>,

Preston Crawford said:

I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel good,
especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started eating fish
again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking of starting
turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg whites and yogurt I
should be good to go in terms of protein.

Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing the
right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like soy
before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of its ease
of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick sandwich and
theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

Preston

Naah. Been a vegetarian for > 30 years, biked & hiked a lot. You don't
really need all that much protein. If you do, cottage cheese is the cure.
What you may need to do is cut down on empty calories (except, perhaps,
on days with extremely high caloric demands).

Of course, it isn't as easy as the 'merican way.

Is what you might be feeling simply age?

-frank
--

Preston Crawford said:

I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel good,
especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started eating fish
again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking of starting
turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg whites and yogurt I
should be good to go in terms of protein.

Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing the
right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like soy
before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of its ease
of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick sandwich and
theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

dude, whey protein or cottage cheese. there's no need to eat either fish or
turkey if you don't want to.
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

Frank Miles said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Preston Crawford said:

I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel good,
especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started eating fish
again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking of starting
turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg whites and yogurt
I
should be good to go in terms of protein.

Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing the
right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like soy
before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of its
ease
of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick sandwich and
theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

Preston

Naah. Been a vegetarian for > 30 years, biked & hiked a lot. You don't
really need all that much protein. If you do, cottage cheese is the
cure.
What you may need to do is cut down on empty calories (except, perhaps,
on days with extremely high caloric demands).

Of course, it isn't as easy as the 'merican way.

Is what you might be feeling simply age?

-frank

I have to go with eat the turkey or chicken. Steamed chicken breast with
the skin peeled off is the best source of clean meat protein I can
think of. It isn't great on taste but then the purpose is nutrition and
not gourmet cooking. Works for me and saves a cow (cattle?), plus there
is no ridiculous fat content like going to McDonalds. Canned Tuna is
another good one but the fishy taste (wonder why?) will limit your intake.
Going vegetarian may seem good on principle but those farm animals are
going
to get killed either way, and if your justification is health, the bird
meat doesn't hurt. Just give the skin to the cat or dog.
FWIW when I set out on a long ride I eat about 3 chicken breasts, 6 raw
eggs,
and a glass of Orange Juice. I take a gallon of that for carbs. Semi
vegetarian diet.
Bill Baka

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David Reuteler wrote

Quoted message said:

Preston Crawford said:

I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel

good,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started

eating fish

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking of

starting

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg whites and

yogurt I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

should be good to go in terms of protein.

Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like

soy

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of

its ease

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick

sandwich and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

dude, whey protein or cottage cheese. there's no need to eat either

fish or

Quoted message said:

turkey if you don't want to.

tofu
soy milk
beans
cheese
nuts
seeds
yogurt
veggies (like brussel sprouts and potatoes)
eggs
supplements (bars, powders)

You'll also want to understand a little about 'complete proteins.'
Here. check this out: http://snipurl.com/8s1y

....I'm getting hungry ;-)

Preston Crawford said:

I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to
feel good, especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I
started eating fish again after being a vegetarian for 5 years.
I'm thinking of starting turkey again. I think between turkey
and fish and egg whites and yogurt I should be good to go in
terms of protein.

Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm
doing the right thing or do you think I should consider trying
sources like soy before turkey? The main reason for choosing
turkey is because of its ease of use as a protein source at
work. Throw together a quick sandwich and theres 20% of my
protein for the day, you know.

If vegetarianism is a moral issue then fish always seems to me a strange
choice. Over fishing is a major issue world wide and the way they are killed
is not particularly humane.

Lamb seems to me a better choice, reared as an almost feral animal in most
parts of the world on land not suitstable for crops or cattle eg here in the
uk the main sheep areas are the Welsh hills and the lake disrtict.

pk

Bill Baka said:

Frank Miles said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Preston Crawford said:

I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel
good,
especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started eating
fish
again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm thinking of starting
turkey again. I think between turkey and fish and egg whites and
yogurt I
should be good to go in terms of protein.

Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing the
right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources like soy
before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is because of its
ease
of use as a protein source at work. Throw together a quick sandwich and
theres 20% of my protein for the day, you know.

Preston

Naah. Been a vegetarian for > 30 years, biked & hiked a lot. You don't
really need all that much protein. If you do, cottage cheese is the
cure.
What you may need to do is cut down on empty calories (except, perhaps,
on days with extremely high caloric demands).

Of course, it isn't as easy as the 'merican way.

Is what you might be feeling simply age?

-frank

I have to go with eat the turkey or chicken. Steamed chicken breast with
the skin peeled off is the best source of clean meat protein I can
think of. It isn't great on taste but then the purpose is nutrition and
not gourmet cooking. Works for me and saves a cow (cattle?), plus there
is no ridiculous fat content like going to McDonalds. Canned Tuna is
another good one but the fishy taste (wonder why?) will limit your
intake.
Going vegetarian may seem good on principle but those farm animals are
going
to get killed either way, and if your justification is health, the bird
meat doesn't hurt. Just give the skin to the cat or dog.
FWIW when I set out on a long ride I eat about 3 chicken breasts, 6 raw
eggs,
and a glass of Orange Juice. I take a gallon of that for carbs. Semi
vegetarian diet.
Bill Baka

I'm the opposite: I'm on low carb, and fat is my friend. I ate low fat
for many, many years and low carb simply makes me feel better. YMMV.

--
Bob in CT
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Bill Baka said:

FWIW when I set out on a long ride I eat about 3 chicken breasts, 6 raw
eggs,
and a glass of Orange Juice. I take a gallon of that for carbs. Semi
vegetarian diet.

pray tell in what universe is that semi-vegetarian?
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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It isn't great on taste but then the purpose is nutrition and
not gourmet cooking.

That's just sad. Didn't Julia Child teach us anything?

--
Wayne Menzie

David Reuteler said:

Bill Baka said:

FWIW when I set out on a long ride I eat about 3 chicken breasts, 6 raw
eggs,
and a glass of Orange Juice. I take a gallon of that for carbs. Semi
vegetarian diet.

pray tell in what universe is that semi-vegetarian?

The original poster was going to eat turkey. How is chicken breasts any
different than turkey?

--
Bob in CT
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Bob in CT said:

David Reuteler said:

Bill Baka said:

FWIW when I set out on a long ride I eat about 3 chicken breasts, 6 raw
eggs,
and a glass of Orange Juice. I take a gallon of that for carbs. Semi
vegetarian diet.

pray tell in what universe is that semi-vegetarian?

The original poster was going to eat turkey. How is chicken breasts any
different than turkey?

it's not -- neither is vegetarian.
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

PK said:

If vegetarianism is a moral issue then fish always seems to me a strange
choice. Over fishing is a major issue world wide and the way they are killed
is not particularly humane.

Lamb seems to me a better choice, reared as an almost feral animal in most
parts of the world on land not suitstable for crops or cattle eg here in the
uk the main sheep areas are the Welsh hills and the lake disrtict.

No, it wasn't a moral issue. It was a health issue. Now I'm realizing I
need more protein.

Preston

neil0502 said:

tofu

Something I might consider eating more of, definitely. In this context
(i.e. easy to use) we'd be talking about Tofu slices or something. Soy
slices.

Quoted message said:

soy milk

Stomach didn't tolerate it well. Tried it.

Quoted message said:

beans

I eat my fair share of those, but on a daily basis it's hard to eat a lot
of those. I find it necessary to find other sources.

Quoted message said:

cheese

I'm partially lactose-intolerant so I'm trying to cut back on cheese.

Quoted message said:

nuts
seeds

These sources are okay, but tend to be fatty. I know fat is good for you,
but I don't think getting my protein from cashews is the answer. It leaves
no room for getting fat in other places.

Quoted message said:

yogurt

I eat that every day.

Quoted message said:

veggies (like brussel sprouts and potatoes)

Check.

Quoted message said:

eggs

Check.

Quoted message said:

supplements (bars, powders)

You'll also want to understand a little about 'complete proteins.'
Here. check this out: http://snipurl.com/8s1y

I thought the whole thing about "complete proteins" was debunked.

Thanks for the info.

Preston

Kevan Smith wrote:
:: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:24:05 -0500, Preston Crawford
:: <[email hidden]> from wrote:
::
::: I've foudn it hard, as busy as I am, to get enough protein to feel
::: good, especially as I ramp up my mileage. So last summer I started
::: eating fish again after being a vegetarian for 5 years. I'm
::: thinking of starting turkey again. I think between turkey and fish
::: and egg whites and yogurt I should be good to go in terms of
::: protein.
:::
::: Has anyone here struggled with this issue? Do you think I'm doing
::: the right thing or do you think I should consider trying sources
::: like soy before turkey? The main reason for choosing turkey is
::: because of its ease of use as a protein source at work. Throw
::: together a quick sandwich and theres 20% of my protein for the day,
::: you know.
::
:: Most people eat too much protien.

How do you know this?

It's not hard to get adaquate
:: protein for cycling while maintaining a vegetarian diet. I've been
:: doing it for six+ months now, and I'm riding better than ever.
::
:: What I do is look for items with added protein -- cereals, breads,
:: etc ... Also, since I sweat so much, I dopn't worry about sodium
:: intake, and thta opens the door to things like flavored ground soy
:: products, Hormel vegetarian chili and other high-sodium products
:: with plenty of protein. Soy is better than turkey, for sure -- less
:: trans-fats, no cholesterol in soy.

Trans-fats are in turkey? Cholesterol in turkey? Gosh.

::
:: For good, protien rich recipes, try this: http://www.goveg.com/
::
::
:: --
:: Kevan Smith
:: [email hidden]

Preston Crawford wrote:
:: On 2004-08-31, neil0502 <[email hidden]> wrote:
::: tofu
::
:: Something I might consider eating more of, definitely. In this
:: context (i.e. easy to use) we'd be talking about Tofu slices or
:: something. Soy slices.
::
::: soy milk
::
:: Stomach didn't tolerate it well. Tried it.
::
::: beans
::
:: I eat my fair share of those, but on a daily basis it's hard to eat
:: a lot of those. I find it necessary to find other sources.

Lay off the grains and beans...

::
::: cheese
::
:: I'm partially lactose-intolerant so I'm trying to cut back on cheese.
::
::: nuts
::: seeds
::
:: These sources are okay, but tend to be fatty. I know fat is good for
:: you, but I don't think getting my protein from cashews is the
:: answer. It leaves no room for getting fat in other places.

Walnuts are a great source of omega3 fats -- but as with all nuts, they are
calorie dense...

::
::: yogurt
::
:: I eat that every day.
::
::: veggies (like brussel sprouts and potatoes)
::
:: Check.

You don't get much protein from most veggies -- good fiber, though. ditch
the potatoes.

::
::: eggs
::
:: Check.

turket breast, too.

::
::: supplements (bars, powders)
:::
::: You'll also want to understand a little about 'complete proteins.'
::: Here. check this out: http://snipurl.com/8s1y
::
:: I thought the whole thing about "complete proteins" was debunked.
::
:: Thanks for the info.
::
:: Preston

a couple more fairly informative links:

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein.html

Bon apetit!