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  1. Does anybody have a comment?

    -fj

  2. fj said:

    Does anybody have a comment?

    Yes.

  3. "JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    fj said:

    Does anybody have a comment?

    Yes.

    Not very helpful, John. Try: hotmail sucks.

    David

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, "fj" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Does anybody have a comment?

    -fj

    Yeah...

    I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
    and I make great strength gains. ;-)

    Providing I was strict about it for awhile.

    It's interesting.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  5. Quoted message said:


    Yeah...

    I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
    and I make great strength gains. ;-)

    Providing I was strict about it for awhile.

    It's interesting.
    --
    Om.

    If you use CKD, the type of exercise should be a lot different than normal
    workout exercise, right?

    You have always keep in mind that you are doing certain excercise to deplete
    glycogen so that you can establish ketosis, at Sunday(?)

    Don't pass "Crossover point" when doing cardio so that you burn more fat
    instead of comsuming glycogen.

    Are those serious concerns when using CKD?

    BTW, the main purpose for CKD is to reduce body fat according to my
    understanding.

    -fj

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, "fj" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Yeah...

    I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
    and I make great strength gains. ;-)

    Providing I was strict about it for awhile.

    It's interesting.
    --
    Om.

    If you use CKD, the type of exercise should be a lot different than normal
    workout exercise, right?

    You have always keep in mind that you are doing certain excercise to deplete
    glycogen so that you can establish ketosis, at Sunday(?)

    Don't pass "Crossover point" when doing cardio so that you burn more fat
    instead of comsuming glycogen.

    Are those serious concerns when using CKD?

    BTW, the main purpose for CKD is to reduce body fat according to my
    understanding.

    -fj

    I use a low carb KD to burn the deposits of fat off my still obese ass
    etc. ;-)

    Once in awhile I get sick to death of it and go to Taco Bell or Church's
    Chicken depending on my mood.

    When I do this, I gain 5 to 8 lbs. literally overnight and my lifting
    ability is 10% or so above norm. It takes a week to lose the water
    weight due to the sudden Glycogen (and sodium) storage.

    When I cheat on my diet, I gain weight and strength and the strength
    gains do not go down significantly when I behave myself and re-shed the
    water/glycogen weight.

    That's all I know. I don't do it on purpose, I'm just a normal human
    being that gets sick of living on a "plan" once in awhile, but I take
    note of what happens when I do it. ;-)

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. fj said:
    Quoted message said:


    Yeah...

    I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
    and I make great strength gains. ;-)

    Providing I was strict about it for awhile.

    It's interesting.
    --
    Om.

    If you use CKD, the type of exercise should be a lot different than normal
    workout exercise, right?

    A lot? Why?

    Quoted message said:

    You have always keep in mind that you are doing certain excercise to deplete
    glycogen so that you can establish ketosis, at Sunday(?)

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    Don't pass "Crossover point" when doing cardio so that you burn more fat
    instead of comsuming glycogen.

    How do you define "crossover point"?

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, the main purpose for CKD is to reduce body fat according to my
    understanding.

    Ostensibly, while minimizing net muscle protein loss. The evidence of
    that is limited, though.

    Keep in mind that the number one factor in any fat loss diet is
    adherence. If you find that you can maintain a CKD without
    significant variance from the program, it will probably work for you.

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