Cycles a danger to trains

John B <[email hidden]>typed

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I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at
Basingstoke.

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You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

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Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

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When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

Don't quite a few stations have cycle racks on platforms? Would a
bicycle left unattended there constitute a danger?

What *are* you supposed to do if you need the loo? Pee onto the platform?

I didn't say that...

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

John B said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at Basingstoke.

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

sadly this is true; bikes have been used as bombs, an unattended bike
is regarded as potentially suspicious luggage like anything else. Take
it into the loo with you? this is fairly commonplace in London now (and
in shops)

John B said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

Given all the tubing, they could - technically - be made into large
pipe bombs. I hope MI5 aren't reading thi+++ATH

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

John B <[email hidden]>typed

Quoted message said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at
Basingstoke.

Quoted message said:

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Quoted message said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

Quoted message said:

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

Don't quite a few stations have cycle racks on platforms?

Basingstoke doesn't.
It has some uncovered Sheffield style stands outside the front entrance.
I was told they should be used.
This requires going down one flight of stairs, through the ticket
barriers through the ticket hall, then and outside where you can lock
the bike up.
You then come back in, back through the barriers and up the stairs to
use the loo/buy coffee/paper or whatever.
Then do the whole trip again to collect your bike.

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Would a bicycle left unattended there constitute a danger?

I'm sure SWT could make up something.

John B

"John B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at
Basingstoke.

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

That sounds more like "I don't have a reason but I do have a uniform".
However, you didn't state whether it was locked to something stationery or
not. If not locked, then yes - it's a risk to the trains. There's enough
stupid [censored] in the world who'd throw it on the line for "a laugh".

Next time take it in the loo with you, or ask him to look after it while you
go for a jizz.

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

John B <[email hidden]>typed

Quoted message said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least
at Basingstoke.

Quoted message said:

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also
applies to a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Quoted message said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

Quoted message said:

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

Don't quite a few stations have cycle racks on platforms? Would a
bicycle left unattended there constitute a danger?

What *are* you supposed to do if you need the loo? Pee onto the
platform?

I didn't say that...

I suppose the danger is that if you heave the seat out, and pack the frame
with explosive, you have a tube-bomb disguised as a bicycle.
Alternatively, heave the seat out, and if you aim carefully, you can pee
down there.
--

Martin Bulmer

"Stuart Millington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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John B said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

Given all the tubing, they could - technically - be made into large
pipe bombs. I hope MI5 aren't reading thi+++ATH

We once had a judge who had worked on IRA cases give a lecture at the uni
where I work as a techie, and I was a bit nervous about leaving my bike
parked in the vicinity with its Heath Robinson lighting - there were both
male and female police officers frisking everyone outside the lecture (a bit
embarassing as I had to pop in and out several times setting the thing up).

John B said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at Basingstoke.

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

Bike bombing is quite common in parts of the World.

I was once physically prevented from locking my bike up in Greenwich
Park after is was damaged in a crash on the basis that it might be a
bike bomb.

http://tinyurl.com/8nb2t
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-12/10/content_399292.htm

http://tinyurl.com/afmrv
http://www.command-post.org/gwot/2_archives/009401.html

http://tinyurl.com/7ngrw
http://www.dawn.com/2004/10/07/nat18.htm

http://tinyurl.com/8jmox
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2004/01/10/story965174286.asp

"MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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sadly this is true; bikes have been used as bombs, an unattended bike
is regarded as potentially suspicious luggage like anything else. Take
it into the loo with you? this is fairly commonplace in London now (and
in shops)

I do hope they remove all of those cars left unattended at stations...
there's been quite a few of those used as bombs with *huge* devastation
following....

Cheers, helen s

elyob said:

"John B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

That sounds more like "I don't have a reason but I do have a uniform".

Yes it was like that :-(

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Next time take it in the loo with you, or ask him to look after it while you
go for a jizz.

It was a 'her', not taht that really matters.
I suspect I'm going to be wheeling it in.
....Also into their very new information lounge they have just opened ;-)

John B

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I was once physically prevented from locking my bike up in Greenwich
Park after is was damaged in a crash on the basis that it might be a
bike bomb.

I was admonished for leaving my bike unattended at Edinburgh Waverly
station. It's a Dawes Galaxy and was 'fully dressed' for touring. Plenty
of scope for concealing explosives within the luggage as well as the frame.

If a TOC has a no unattended bikes policy then arguing against it with a
local operative/employee will get you little joy. They get a bollocking for
breaches of operating procedures. You're best taking it up with someone in a
more powerful position.

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elyob said:

"John B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

That sounds more like "I don't have a reason but I do have a uniform".

Yes it was like that :-(

Quoted message said:

Next time take it in the loo with you, or ask him to look after it while
you
go for a jizz.

It was a 'her', not taht that really matters.
I suspect I'm going to be wheeling it in.
...Also into their very new information lounge they have just opened ;-)

Well, you didn't notice my mistake. I meant to say whiz. Personally you
shouldn't be allowed into public toilets if you're after jizz.

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elyob said:

"John B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".
>
> When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
> have a debate about it".

That sounds more like "I don't have a reason but I do have a uniform".

Yes it was like that :-(

Quoted message said:

Next time take it in the loo with you, or ask him to look after it while
you
go for a jizz.

It was a 'her', not taht that really matters.
I suspect I'm going to be wheeling it in.
...Also into their very new information lounge they have just opened ;-)

Well, you didn't notice my mistake. I meant to say whiz. Personally you
shouldn't be allowed into public toilets if you're after jizz.

.

I was too embarassed to say anything ;-)

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John B said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at Basingstoke.

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

I am not saying that this is a justification for their posiiton but
there was a piece in A2B a while back of a parked Brompton being sucked
off the platform by a passing HST. ISTR the bike got rather mixed up
with the underside of the train, came off second best and was spat out
further along the platform. Presumably they might argue that it could
do some damage along the way?

Peter

--

www.amey.org.uk

Stuart Millington said:

John B said:

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

Given all the tubing, they could - technically - be made into large
pipe bombs. I hope MI5 aren't reading thi+++ATH

I have been expecting and fearing an attackon cycling through the
potential use of bikes as bombs.

As was said above, car bombs will be fine.. No problems there...

Mad!

Terrorists want to destroy our culture, values and liberal democarcy.
They will start the process with mayhem and mass murder. Useful idiots
behind desks are required to finish the job.

Meanwhile I will keep my bike close
<smuggit>
DINTYIHAB
</smuggit>

Richard Webb

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Terrorists want to destroy our culture, values

Utter nonsense.

The above is the what *they* think *we* are doing to *them*.

"MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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John B said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at
Basingstoke.

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

sadly this is true; bikes have been used as bombs, an unattended bike
is regarded as potentially suspicious luggage like anything else. Take
it into the loo with you? this is fairly commonplace in London now (and
in shops)

So if a suicide bomber want to blow up a train he has to leave his bike
outside the station. That'll stop them!

Quoted message said:

I am not saying that this is a justification for their posiiton but
there was a piece in A2B a while back of a parked Brompton being sucked
off the platform by a passing HST. ISTR the bike got rather mixed up
with the underside of the train, came off second best and was spat out
further along the platform. Presumably they might argue that it could
do some damage along the way?

Yes the Brommy would have been pretty badly mangled.

Richard Webb

Smithy said:

"MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

John B said:

I was informed today that SWT have introduced a new rule - at least at
Basingstoke.

You must not leave any cycle unattended on the platform.
I can understand this if it has luggage attached, but it also applies to
a bare bike.
You cannot leave a bike even if you wish to use the loo.

Apparently cycles are "a danger to our trains".

When this was politely queried, the answer was "I don't have time to
have a debate about it".

sadly this is true; bikes have been used as bombs, an unattended bike
is regarded as potentially suspicious luggage like anything else. Take
it into the loo with you? this is fairly commonplace in London now (and
in shops)

So if a suicide bomber want to blow up a train he has to leave his bike
outside the station. That'll stop them!

a suicide bomber would not leave his /her device unattended he/she'd be
attached to it. I wouldn't take it personally if someone told me to
take my bike off the platform if I wanted to leave it unattended.