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  1. As promised two weeks ago, here is the data on a cycle training
    consultation I conducted with parents of children aged 5, 6 and 7.

    I sent a consultation letter to 120 parents:

    ==========================

    Dear Year 1 and 2 Parents,

    Continued funding from Transport for London means that National
    Standard Level 1 cycle training can be given to all Year 2 and 3
    pupils as part of the PE curriculum. The proposal is that Year 3
    pupils will be given the training during the Autumn Term 2006 and Year
    2 pupils during the Summer Term 2007.

    If the project goes ahead, all children who cannot yet ride a bike
    will be taught to ride a bike, either in the Autumn Term or Summer
    Term. The classes will be divided into groups of 15 and each group
    will be given two full afternoon playground cycle training lessons.
    The school will provide bicycles.

    The Level 1 cycle training can be followed up with Level 2, on-road
    cycle training, in Year 4 and Level 3, advanced on-road cycling, in
    Year 6.

    Please complete the slip below to indicate your child's level of
    cycling proficiency and any comments you have about the proposal.

    Many thanks,

    Tom Crispin

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Name of Child ___________________________________

    Level of cycling proficiency:

    Never ridden a bike

    Can ride a bike with stabilisers

    Can ride a bike for at least 10 metres

    Comments on the proposal:

    =======================

    Statistical results:

    83 of 120 parents responded to the consultation.

    70% of children can ride a bike.
    25% can ride with stabalisers.
    5% have never ridden a bike.

    In the comments section:
    47 parents were positive about the proposal.
    12 parents were neither positive or negative.
    No parent was negative about the proposal.[1]
    24 parents made no comment.

    Examples of positive comments:
    Excellent!
    A great idea - all children should be taught to ride a bike.
    I couldn't ride a bike till I was 20. I'm very pleased.
    I hope you are ready for an enthusiastic learner!
    Can Jordi have level 2 training?
    We are moving back to our country with Ho-Lee so he will miss this
    great opportunity.[1]

    Examples of neutral comments (pseudomyns used).
    Jodi pedals backwards.
    Jason can ride for more than 10 metres.
    Jack will need to be challenged.
    Jane has weak legs and it may take longer for her to learn.

    [1] This coment could be interpreted as negative, but the parent was
    clearly in favour of the project.

  2. Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snips a load of bollocks>

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    --
    Tunku

    "end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems.

  3. Tunku said:

    Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snips a load of bollocks>

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    I expect yours is the gereration who cycle on pavements and openly
    flout red lights. ;-)

  4. Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    "End of story" being a case in point: it doesn't happen nearly so much
    any more, because bicycle use has become much less of a culture amongst
    both kids and their parents.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  5. Peter Clinch said:

    "End of story" being a case in point: it doesn't happen nearly so much any more, because bicycle use has become much less of a culture amongst both kids and their parents.

    ..

    as a direct result of the increase in cars, and highlighting the need for more coaching to give kids the confidence to get out on their bikes more.

    Wheelist

  6. wheelist said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    "End of story" being a case in point: it doesn't happen nearly so
    much any more, because bicycle use has become much less of a culture
    amongst both kids and their parents.
    ..

    as a direct result of the increase in cars, and highlighting the need
    for more coaching to give kids the confidence to get out on their
    bikes more.

    To give the parents the confidence to let their children do things
    independently, IMHO.

    A

  7. Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up.

    Did you use jumpers for goalposts?

  8. "Steve Firth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up.

    Did you use jumpers for goalposts?

    Who didn't?

    (do posh kids use polo shirts rather than jumpers?)

    clive

  9. Clive George said:
    Steve Firth said:

    On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:37:05 -0500, Tunku wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Did you use jumpers for goalposts?

    Quoted message said:

    Who didn't?
    (do posh kids use polo shirts rather than jumpers?)

    Benetton sweaters.

  10. In news:[email hidden],

    JNugent said:
    Clive George said:
    Steve Firth said:

    On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:37:05 -0500, Tunku wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads
    > taught us, and Mums patched us up.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Did you use jumpers for goalposts?

    Quoted message said:

    Who didn't?
    (do posh kids use polo shirts rather than jumpers?)

    Benetton sweaters.

    Quite. It's simply not done to play polo when not wearing one's shirt.

  11. Steve Firth <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught
    us, and Mums patched us up.

    Did you use jumpers for goalposts?

    Nah, rugby playing family here. Footie is for scrotes. ;-)

    --
    Tunku

    "end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems.

  12. Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Tunku said:

    Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snips a load of bollocks>

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    I expect yours is the gereration who cycle on pavements and openly
    flout red lights. ;-)

    No, and we didn't cotton wool everything either.

    --
    Tunku

    "end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems.

  13. Tunku said:

    Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Tunku said:

    Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snips a load of bollocks>

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    I expect yours is the gereration who cycle on pavements and openly
    flout red lights. ;-)

    No, and we didn't cotton wool everything either.

    I wonder which generation all those pavement cyclists and red light
    flouters belong to. They're not my generation, not yours, but we are
    continually told they exist.

    Does anyone care to own up to belonging to that generation.

  14. Tom Crispin ([email hidden]) gurgled happily,
    sounding much like they were saying :

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder which generation all those pavement cyclists and red light
    flouters belong to. They're not my generation, not yours, but we are
    continually told they exist.

    Does anyone care to own up to belonging to that generation.

    <waves>
    A lot of the ones I've seen are my generation - mid 30s.
    Some are younger, some are older.

    I blame the parents.

  15. Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    Whereas now Dads are absent, and Mums say cycling is too dangerous and
    drive their kids everywhere.

    Training persuades some doting parents that perhaps cycling is safe
    enough for their offspring.

    Colin McKenzie

    --
    On average in Britain, you're more likely to get a head injury walking
    a mile than cycling it.
    So why aren't we all exhorted to wear walking helmets?

  16. Colin McKenzie said:
    Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    Whereas now Dads are absent, and Mums say cycling is too dangerous and
    drive their kids everywhere.

    Training persuades some doting parents that perhaps cycling is safe
    enough for their offspring.

    As so many took advantage of today.
    41 children went through my training - in five school groups and one private
    session.

    It was hard work but oh so rewarding :-)

    John B

  17. John B said:


    Colin McKenzie said:
    Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    Whereas now Dads are absent, and Mums say cycling is too dangerous and
    drive their kids everywhere.

    Training persuades some doting parents that perhaps cycling is safe
    enough for their offspring.

    As so many took advantage of today.
    41 children went through my training - in five school groups and one private
    session.

    It was hard work but oh so rewarding :-)

    John B


    I finished my first course today. Four happy cyclists who now know
    some, but not all, of the things they need to be safe.

    I've recommended that they have a look at Cyclecraft and the highway code.

  18. Al C-F said:

    I finished my first course today. Four happy cyclists who now know
    some, but not all, of the things they need to be safe.

    I've recommended that they have a look at Cyclecraft and the highway code.

    Ssssh.
    Don't tell you know who ;-)

    John B

  19. On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:18:35 +0100, John B <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Colin McKenzie said:
    Tunku said:

    When I was a kid, we learnt to cycle and did it for fun. Dads taught us,
    and Mums patched us up. End of story.

    Whereas now Dads are absent, and Mums say cycling is too dangerous and
    drive their kids everywhere.

    Training persuades some doting parents that perhaps cycling is safe
    enough for their offspring.

    As so many took advantage of today.
    41 children went through my training - in five school groups and one private
    session.

    Blimey!

    I reckon that a two hour lesson takes up to three hours of my time.

    Get changed.
    Unlock bikes and transport to playground.
    Gather together children and fit with tabards and helmets.
    Adjust bikes and complete any minor repairs.
    Explain to group what we'll be doing this lesson.
    Lesson.
    Collect in helmets and tabards.
    Chat to parents.
    Put away bikes and lock up.
    Shower and change.

    Quoted message said:

    It was hard work but oh so rewarding :-)

    I'm glad you've said that. I said much the same in an article I wrote
    for an educational journal.

    The unformatted version is below.
    http://www.johnballcycling.org.uk/files/CTArticle.pdf

  20. In message <[email hidden]>, Tom Crispin
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder which generation all those pavement cyclists and red light
    flouters belong to. They're not my generation, not yours, but we are
    continually told they exist.

    Does anyone care to own up to belonging to that generation.


    After a recent visit to London I would say that most were 20 something
    males.
    --
    Clive Coleman.

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