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  1. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by FranklynMint
    I have always cycled, but have only recently (12 months) taken up regular recreational cycling for health reasons (dodgy knee means I can't jog or play footy, and swimming lengths is tedious). I have a 35 quid mountain bike, bought 2nd hand because i am not well-paid, and couldn't afford to splash out.
    I usualy road-cycle, occasionally going off-road when the fancy takes me. I wear cheap but functional proper cycling gear. All mountain-bikers will give a cheery wave and hello, but I have noticed that people on road bikes will often totally ignore you as you pass in opposite directions in the middle of the countryside miles from anywhere. I don't understand it. I have no wish to harbour negative thoughts about other people, or spoil anyone's enjoyment of a wonderfully fulfilling and healthy pastime, but why would anyone want to ignore another cyclist, especially if there is nobody else around! I have started to grow a chip on my own shoulder, and now get enormous enjoyment from overtaking road-bikers in all the latest gear, on the latest, flashiest bikes, who are not as fast as me. Hur hur. Can anyone explain or help me get rid of the shoulder chip?


    I don't think you can say it's roadies who don't acknowledge you.
    I find that when I'm out on my mtb, some cyclists wave/ nod/ speak, others don't.
    I always try to do so myself, but as someone posted above, if you're really going for it, or on a hard climb, it can be difficult.
    I find that the worst offenders are the riders wearing jeans & T shirt, with saddle set far too low, and cadence of about 30 (so they're hardly going flat out)

  2. On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:14:06 +0100, "Morton Burner"
    <[email hidden]> ("Morton Burner"

    ) said:

    In "]news:[email hidden], David
    Martin <[email hidden]> sed

    Quoted message said:

    It's an us and them situation. When I am on the road
    bike the roadies say hello and the MTB'ers ignore me.
    And vice versa.

    ..d

    Try riding a hybrid. Nobody waves.

    Or a recumbent. Everybody waves. :-)

    --
    Matt K Dunedin, NZ

  3. Zog The Undeniable <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : Seriously, I ride near 100% if I'm commuting and it's an
    : effort to speak.

    I used to do this. Now I just content myself with the
    knowledge that the guy that has just gone streaming
    past me is actually slower than me and I could catch
    them if I want 🙂

    I find I go much faster now I don't batter myself commuting
    but go really hard when I go hard.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune clune.orgclune.org "Technolibertarians make a
    philosophy out of a personality defect"
    - Paulina Borsook

  4. A communique from Just zis Guy, you know? stated:

    Quoted message said:

    And I thought we were brothers-in-arms...

    Gagh!

    (dies)

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
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  5. Whingin' Pom <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Or a recumbent. Everybody waves. :-)

    No, that's the sign of the cross as they try to scare away
    the evil wheeled monster ;-)

    Graeme

  6. "Richard Corfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Simon Mason said:


    I have to descend from Mount Olympus now and again and
    mix with the


    common

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    people and don't want to look a total prat (meat and two
    veg wise)


    walking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    around WH Smiths ;-)

    But surely thats what the padding in the shorts is for ;-)

    Some of us need a bit of extra padding in that area ;-)

    --
    Simon M.

  7. On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:08:07 +0100 someone who may be MSA
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Simply tell yourself that they are idiots and continue to
    be yourself.

    Just out of interest, why idiots?

    If one wants to feel superior to the person who does
    not wave back then it is best to think of them in
    derogatory terms.

    As I implied later on in my posting it doesn't bother me
    either way. Some people commit random acts of kindness,
    others do not.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number
    F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK
    government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  8. FranklynMint said:

    All mountain-bikers will give a cheery wave and hello, but
    I have noticed that people on road bikes will often totally
    ignore you as you pass in opposite directions in the middle
    of the countryside miles from anywhere.

    Hi Franklyn

    When on my road bike I have my "Hi's" returned by others on
    similar bikes. When I'm on my tatty MTB no-one replies.

    Unless I'm in "eeek, traffic" mode, I always say "hello",
    grin or gesture in some way towards other cyclists. Of
    course, I have more time to both notice and wave to other
    bike riders when on quiet roads than I do when circling busy
    roundabouts, for example.

    James

  9. Simon Mason said:

    I ... Mount Olympus now and again

    How dare you treat my late cat thus.
    <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.butty/Olympus_small.jpg>

    James

  10. Hi there: I only ever cycle in rural northumberland these days (though I cycled in London for years), and I was just interested in whether or not there was some unwritten code I wasn't aware of. I guess its a case of some people want to say hello, others don't. Thanks to all for your replies, and for making me chuckle along the way!
    Cheers
    FM (no padding required)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi Franklyn

    When on my road bike I have my "Hi's" returned by others on
    similar bikes. When I'm on my tatty MTB no-one replies.

    Unless I'm in "eeek, traffic" mode, I always say "hello",
    grin or gesture in some way towards other cyclists. Of
    course, I have more time to both notice and wave to other
    bike riders when on quiet roads than I do when circling busy
    roundabouts, for example.

    James [/B][/QUOTE]

  11. FranklynMint said:

    Hi there: I only ever cycle in rural northumberland these
    days (though I cycled in London for years), and I was just
    interested in whether or not there was some unwritten code
    I wasn't aware of. I guess its a case of some people want
    to say hello, others don't. Thanks to all for your
    replies, and for making me chuckle along the way! Cheers
    FM (no padding required)

    I've spent the last couple of days cycling between Durham
    and the dales and I've met a mixture of friendly waves and
    nods and complete ignorance. The funniest, on Sunday, was a
    road over the top of the moors, real middle-of-nowhere
    stuff. I had stopped to check my map and GPS as I was trying
    to locate the edge of a 1km grid square---you'd think the OS
    would paint them on the landscape! My bike was clearly in
    view, propped against a snow pole, and I was stood in the
    middle of the narrow road. A cyclist was climbing the hill.
    It is a fair drag and I appreciate the head down effort
    required, but he just went straight past me. His eyes never
    left the road in front of his wheel. I had started to say
    something before I realised that he really didn't know I was
    there despite the fact that we were the only two human
    beings for miles around.

    Colin

  12. David Martin said:

    On 7/6/04 2:04 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "FranklynMint"

    Quoted message said:

    All mountain-bikers will give a cheery wave and hello,
    but I have noticed that people on road bikes will often
    totally ignore you as you pass in opposite directions in
    the middle of the countryside miles from anywhere. I
    don't understand it.

    The problem is that all those road bikers who COULD explain
    why they ignore you will just, well, ignore you so you
    won't get a helpful response.

    It's an us and them situation. When I am on the road
    bike the roadies say hello and the MTB'ers ignore me.
    And vice versa.

    ..d

    I don't wave to people wearing helmets. Motorist-running-
    dogs.

  13. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Floral dress on old clunker or shopper's quite effective
    too...

    In my case it might attract the wrong kind of attention,
    thobut...

    Perhaps you have to shave your legs ;-)

    BTW it's the same in France, Les roadies faisent le wave,
    les VTT ne le faisent pas a une autre roadie

  14. On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:50:01 GMT, Graeme

    () said:

    Whingin' Pom <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Or a recumbent. Everybody waves. :-)

    No, that's the sign of the cross as they try to scare away
    the evil wheeled monster ;-)

    I look forward to the peasant mobs gathering on the front
    lawn, attempting to persuade me back to the light side and
    UCI-sanctioned redemption.

    I shall brook none of their nonsense, however and leap onto
    my trusty Rolls Canardly, B&M headlight blazing and utter
    my best maniacal laugh as they scatter in the face of my
    mighty chainring, hurtling downhill into the night at
    Ludicrous Speed, beard and CAMRA membership card flapping
    in the breeze...

    ...until the next climb where the pursuing mob catch
    up with me.

    --
    Matt K Dunedin, NZ

  15. David Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 7/6/04 2:04 pm, in article
    [email hidden],

    FranklynMint said:

    All mountain-bikers will give a cheery wave and hello,
    but I have noticed that people on road bikes will often
    totally ignore you as you pass in opposite directions
    in the middle of the countryside miles from anywhere. I
    don't understand it.

    The problem is that all those road bikers who COULD
    explain why they ignore you will just, well, ignore you so
    you won't get a helpful response.

    Not guilty. I always try to not and wave hello to riders
    passing in the other direction. I thought the attitude of
    the national squad riders mentioned in a recent u.r.c post
    was a bit off, especially considering the fact that not so
    long ago, I would often encounter Stuart Dangerfield
    training on the back roads around Wolverhampton; despite
    being a time triallst of considerable reputation, it clearly
    wasn't beneath him to say a quick 'hello' to cyclists
    passing by. Indeed, he did offer to help me out with a
    puncture once, and on another occasion Dad and I had a chat
    with him in the beer garden of the New Inns at Kiddemore
    Green (between Brewood and Bishops Wood). Needless to say,
    being a dedicate athlete he opted for a soft drink, whilst
    we were on pints of Burtonwood! Also, his supposed
    'training' bike had a top-notch TTing wheel in, which put us
    to shame....

    David E. Belcher

  16. David Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 7/6/04 2:04 pm, in article
    [email hidden],

    FranklynMint said:

    All mountain-bikers will give a cheery wave and hello,
    but I have noticed that people on road bikes will often
    totally ignore you as you pass in opposite directions
    in the middle of the countryside miles from anywhere. I
    don't understand it.

    The problem is that all those road bikers who COULD
    explain why they ignore you will just, well, ignore you so
    you won't get a helpful response.

    Not guilty. I always try to not and wave hello to riders
    passing in the other direction

    Oops; for 'not' read 'nod'; didn't wish to convey a
    negative attitude!

    David E. Belcher

  17. Quoted message said:

    "David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    someone who may be FranklynMint wrote:

    I would continue to get enormous enjoyment.

    Best is to be focused on your own improvement. The only
    flawless victory you can achieve is over yourself, over
    your own limitations.

    Nope. Best is to enjoy. If you ever do achieve flawless
    victory over yourself (whatever that means), does that make
    you a loser too?

    Vince.

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