Cycle Show 2005 (H****t content)

Colin McKenzie said:

I went today.

It's just about worth a visit even if you don't have a few thousand do
spend on a new bike, though there still aren't that many things to do.
The part of Excel it's in didn't seem much if any bigger than the
Business Design Centre.

The bike try-out area had a few KMXs, but no other recumbents. I agree
that KMXs are major fun, but I found it hard to keep straight under
hard acceleration. Does this improve with practice?

Many of the other try-out bikes were folders, but there was a wide
choice of rigids too. The track gets crowded with more than about 6
people on it though.

I didn't have to wear a h****t, but the staff tried to make me, and if
I hadn't checked in advance I wouldn't have been able to convince
them. The form you have to sign says they are recommended. But I am
sure the children being trained didn't get the option. This pro-helmet
stance appears to come from levels of TfL above the cycling 'centre of
excellence'.

Later, I was asked to stop riding helmetless while Peter Hendy and
some photograplers were around.

Sefton Council have a bike race simulator (2 static bikes) which was fun.

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

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Doug (') said:

Colin McKenzie said:

I went today.

It's just about worth a visit even if you don't have a few thousand do
spend on a new bike, though there still aren't that many things to do.
The part of Excel it's in didn't seem much if any bigger than the
Business Design Centre.

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?

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snippity...

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Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

Wonder what they would have thought of the other event going on at Excel
with the Cycle Show? it is The European Academy of Dermatology &
Venereology 14th Congress - London 2005 - sounds like a convention of pox
doctors!

RG

'Make Love Not War... carefully'

Cheers, helen s ;-)

wafflycat said:

'Make Love Not War... carefully'

Cheers, helen s ;-)

Can you make war carefully?

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Anon

RG said:

Wonder what they would have thought of the other event going on at Excel
with the Cycle Show? it is The European Academy of Dermatology &
Venereology 14th Congress - London 2005 - sounds like a convention of pox
doctors!

Aha!
I saw a Scandinavian couple at the ticket machine at Canada Water tube
yesterday, intently peering at the tube map.
Ioffered some assistance, and was asked how to get to Excel.
Jubilee Line, change to DLR I replied.
I then asked if they were going to the cycle show, and was met with a
blank stare. They didn't say what they WERE going for. Now I know.
I guess saying straight out "We're going to a pox doctor's convention"
is too much, even for Scandinavians.

RG said:

Wonder what they would have thought of the other event going on at
Excel with the Cycle Show? it is The European Academy of Dermatology
& Venereology 14th Congress - London 2005 - sounds like a convention
of pox doctors!

Shaking hands definately NOT encouraged!

Pete.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:32:42 +0100 someone who may be Colin McKenzie
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Later, I was asked to stop riding helmetless while Peter Hendy and
some photograplers were around.

Did you accede to this request?

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Simon Brooke said:

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Doug (') said:

Colin McKenzie said:

I went today.

It's just about worth a visit even if you don't have a few thousand do
spend on a new bike, though there still aren't that many things to do.
The part of Excel it's in didn't seem much if any bigger than the
Business Design Centre.

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?

No, because not all of Britain supports the arms trade.

Doug.

Doug said:

Simon Brooke said:

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Doug (') said:

Colin McKenzie wrote:
> I went today.
>
> It's just about worth a visit even if you don't have a few thousand do
> spend on a new bike, though there still aren't that many things to do.
> The part of Excel it's in didn't seem much if any bigger than the
> Business Design Centre.

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?

No, because not all of Britain supports the arms trade.

But you know that all of (every employee?) the ExCel centre does?

Management of the centre presumably does (overall, on balance), but
then, management of the UK (same basis) does too...

regards, Ian SMith
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Ian Smith said:

Doug said:

Simon Brooke said:

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[[[Doug]]] ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

>
> Colin McKenzie wrote:
>> I went today.
>>
>> It's just about worth a visit even if you don't have a few thousand do
>> spend on a new bike, though there still aren't that many things to do.
>> The part of Excel it's in didn't seem much if any bigger than the
>> Business Design Centre.
>
> Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
> they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?

No, because not all of Britain supports the arms trade.

But you know that all of (every employee?) the ExCel centre does?

Management of the centre presumably does (overall, on balance), but
then, management of the UK (same basis) does too...

London's Mayor is opposed to the Arms Fair, as is Newham Council, of
the borough where it is held, and the police aren't too happy with it
either. However, because it is big bucks for the economy these dealers
in death are allowed to get away with it, by Mr T. Bliar.

Doug.

Doug said:

Ian Smith said:

Doug said:

Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <[email hidden]>,
> [[[Doug]]] ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
>
> > Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is
> > where they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.
>
> Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?

No, because not all of Britain supports the arms trade.

But you know that all of (every employee?) the ExCel centre does?

Management of the centre presumably does (overall, on balance), but
then, management of the UK (same basis) does too...

London's Mayor is opposed to the Arms Fair, as is Newham Council, of
the borough where it is held, and the police aren't too happy with it
either. However, because it is big bucks for the economy these dealers
in death are allowed to get away with it, by Mr T. Bliar.

And you know that a directly comparable situation does not exist at
the ExCel centre because....

regards, Ian SMith
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Doug said:

Colin McKenzie said:

I went today.

Quoted message said:

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

I've been to that. But I was exhibiting, so I got in free.

Al

Al C-F said:

Doug said:

Colin McKenzie said:

I went today.

Quoted message said:

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

I've been to that. But I was exhibiting, so I got in free.

^^^^^^^^^^^ at the arms fair?

Peter :-)

Quoted message said:

Al

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Peter Amey said:

Al C-F said:

Doug said:

Colin McKenzie wrote:

> I went today.

Quoted message said:

Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is where
they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.

I've been to that. But I was exhibiting, so I got in free.

^^^^^^^^^^^ at the arms fair?

Yes.

Of course, I could claim that the company I worked for at the time made
products for 'Defensive' use only. ;-)

Al.

Al C-F said:

Of course, I could claim that the company I worked for at the time made
products for 'Defensive' use only. ;-)

Would that be pre-emptive defence?

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Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

Ian Smith said:

Doug said:

Ian Smith said:

On 14 Oct 2005 21:18:21 -0700, [[[Doug]]] <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Simon Brooke wrote:
> > in message <[email hidden]>,
> > [[[Doug]]] ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
> >
> > > Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is
> > > where they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.
> >
> > Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?
>
> No, because not all of Britain supports the arms trade.

But you know that all of (every employee?) the ExCel centre does?

Management of the centre presumably does (overall, on balance), but
then, management of the UK (same basis) does too...

London's Mayor is opposed to the Arms Fair, as is Newham Council, of
the borough where it is held, and the police aren't too happy with it
either. However, because it is big bucks for the economy these dealers
in death are allowed to get away with it, by Mr T. Bliar.

And you know that a directly comparable situation does not exist at
the ExCel centre because....

The purpose of the show is to sell arms.

Doug.

Colin McKenzie said:

I went today.

I am here now. I have to say the bike parking was poorly signed and
very slow to get into. It turns out to be "lock your own bike in an
open car park" so just like the car parking but with a longer queue...
(they did have a marquee which they were keeping clear for people who
did not bring a lock). No sign of the free lube offer.

Show seems similar to last year but less cramped

best wishes
james
(at the cycling for england stand in The Hub)

Tony Raven said:

Al C-F said:

Of course, I could claim that the company I worked for at the time
made products for 'Defensive' use only. ;-)

Would that be pre-emptive defence?

Israel was not one of my customers. But with the George and Tony show,
I'm getting the feeling that they are no longer the only offenders.

Ian Smith said:

Doug said:

Ian Smith said:

On 15 Oct 2005 02:26:00 -0700, [[[Doug]]] <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Ian Smith wrote:
> > On 14 Oct 2005 21:18:21 -0700, [[[Doug]]] <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > > Simon Brooke wrote:
> > > > in message <[email hidden]>,
> > > > [[[Doug]]] ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Some cyclists have boycotted the show because the ExCel Centre is
> > > > > where they hold the disgusting Arms Fair.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't you also boycott Britain on the same basis?
> > >
> > > No, because not all of Britain supports the arms trade.
> >
> > But you know that all of (every employee?) the ExCel centre does?
> >
> > Management of the centre presumably does (overall, on balance), but
> > then, management of the UK (same basis) does too...
>
> London's Mayor is opposed to the Arms Fair, as is Newham Council, of
> the borough where it is held, and the police aren't too happy with it
> either. However, because it is big bucks for the economy these dealers
> in death are allowed to get away with it, by Mr T. Bliar.

And you know that a directly comparable situation does not exist at
the ExCel centre because....

The purpose of the show is to sell arms.

The purpose of the ExCel centre is not to sell arms.

You obviously have a reading difficulty which makes communicating with
you difficult.

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Are you capable of answering the question coherently?
Are you going to answer the question?

By all means boycott the arms fair, but is there actually a good
reason for boycotting the conference centre and not boycotting the
country?

Yes, I live in the country not the Excel Centre.

Quoted message said:

You don't appear to have presented a single coherent argument that
explains why you would boycott the ExCel centre but not boycott
Britain. In both cases, part of the activities of the body corporate
includes profiting from the arms trade, some of the people involved
may object to it but are over-ruled by higher powers.

I'm curious whether there is actually any coherent logic underlying
the distinctions you appear to be making, or whether it is just that
you haven't thought of it.

I haven't thought of it because it is a stupid comparison.

Doug.