Cycle paths - red/green difference?

Not to someone with red-green colour blindness, anyway

"Chris Heys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

Yes. Red ones are narrow, slippery, glass & debris strewn, inconvenient and dangerous.

Green ones, on the other hand, are slippery, narrow, debris & glass strewn, dangerous and
inconvenient.

:~)

Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

It's easier to see broken glass on a green one.

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"Chris Heys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

Yes, the colour.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Pete

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It's easier to see broken glass on a green one.

Unless it's a green bottle that's been trashed on the lane.

Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

No. Green is the new red.

~PB

Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

The green one is the verge ;-)

Tony

Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

No. Colour is irrelevant, and tarmac-coloured cycle lanes are perfectly legal. When they are
coloured it is simply to make them more obvious.

The big distinction is the line at the side: a solid white line means that motorists must not drive,
park or unload in the cycle lane. A broken white line means they must not do so unless there is a
very good reason.

Red cycle lanes are said to require less maintenance, because you don't need to wash the blood off
at left junctions.

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Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

The difference is the cost at the time the council asked for tenders of the coloured chippings.

Colin
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Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

It's easier to see broken glass on a green one.

Not if it's a Buckfast bottle. Buckfast Tonic Wine - allegedly made by monks in Devon. Comes in
green glass bottles to blend in with green cycle lanes. Itis popular with local neds in the west of
Scotland as a cheap way of getting drunk. Tradition (like the Russian smashing of wine glasses after
a toast)demands that when finished the bottle is smashed on the nearest hard surface (unless
required for use as a weapon). I can confirm however at least one incident of poetic justice when a
Buckfast drinker watching a football match on TV lashed out in frustration when his team missed a
penalty and struck himself on the forehead having forgotten about the Buckie bottle in his hand.
Hospital treatment and stitches required. Iain

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Not if it's a Buckfast bottle. Buckfast Tonic Wine - allegedly made by monks in Devon.

Your use of the word allegedly is incorrect.

Putting the word "buckfast" into www.google.co.uk produced the Abbey's web site as the first result.
In the Earning a living" section one can get to buckfast.org.uktonic.htmOpen ↗.

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mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

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Do we think the monks KNOW where most of their produce goes?

They should do. A couple of years ago one of the Glasgow MPs led a campaign to get the monks to put
up the price of the filthy stuff to make it less attractive to the 'buckie boys'. The monks were
sympathetic but ultimately took the "am I my brother's keeper?" line.

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(iarocu) said:

Not if it's a Buckfast bottle. Buckfast Tonic Wine - allegedly made by monks in Devon.

Ah-ha, that famous Benedictine brew. Having be educated by said order of monks (I use the word
educated extremely loosely), all I can say is "marvellous stuff, especially when taken in quantity".

James

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mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

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Do we think the monks KNOW where most of their produce goes?

They should do. A couple of years ago one of the Glasgow MPs led a

campaign

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to get the monks to put up the price of the filthy stuff to make it less attractive to the 'buckie
boys'. The monks were sympathetic but ultimately took the "am I my brother's keeper?" line.

Its also a rather peculiar habit (no ... thats not a pun, so none of this havent got a clue
nonsense).

Whats up with special brew/white lightning/etc.

Chris Heys said:

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a difference between a greenish painted
and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

Yes. The red routes have sections under one metre wide, steep climbs, jumps and/or drop-offs, and
are not really safe for inexperienced riders.

Oh, you meant on the road? Much the same, really.

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On 21 Nov 2003 04:50:18 -0800 someone who may be [email hidden] (iarocu) wrote this:-

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Not if it's a Buckfast bottle. Buckfast Tonic Wine - allegedly made by monks in Devon.

Your use of the word allegedly is incorrect.

Nothing incorrect about it. It is alleged that it is made by monks in Devon, and you allege that the
allegation is true. Being true doesn't make it not an allegation - on the contrary.

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mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

Quoted message said:

Do we think the monks KNOW where most of their produce goes?

They should do. A couple of years ago one of the Glasgow MPs led a

campaign

Quoted message said:

to get the monks to put up the price of the filthy stuff to make it less attractive to the
'buckie boys'. The monks were sympathetic but ultimately took the "am I my brother's
keeper?" line.

Its also a rather peculiar habit (no ... thats not a pun, so none of this havent got a clue
nonsense).

Whats up with special brew/white lightning/etc.

That's strong lager and cider. The wine drinking must be a hangover from Glasgows city of kultyoor
days. Circa 1990? As can be decduced from the learned discussions enjoyed as the Buckie bottle is
passed from hand to hand around the group gathered at the bus stop or other culture venue. Iain

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difference

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between a greenish painted and a redish painted cycle path on the road?

Many thanks in advance,

Colour of the paving has no legal significance. I understand that, as well as red and green, blue
and lavender are "standard" colours.

Often one colour is used for bike lanes, and the other colour for bus lanes.

However, the use of colour at all is significant, although not legally.

Traffic engineers are usually advised to use the minimum amount of paint and signs possible, not
so much for aesthetic reasons, but rather to reduce the clutter so that important imformation
stands out.

Thus colour tends to be used only when the scheme was previously a failure without colour. Colour is
therefore a useful warning that there is something bad enough about the scheme to have been noticed
even by traffic engineers. This probably implies injured or dead cyclists.

Probably nothing will have changed about the scheme except for the addition of colour, so the
problem will still exist. For your own safety it is advisable to figure out what the problem is, and
take countermeasures.

Jeremy Parker

Jeremy Parker said:

Traffic engineers are usually advised to use the minimum amount of paint and signs possible, not
so much for aesthetic reasons, but rather to reduce the clutter so that important imformation
stands out.

Thus colour tends to be used only when the scheme was previously a failure without colour. Colour
is therefore a useful warning that there is something bad enough about the scheme to have been
noticed even by traffic engineers. This probably implies injured or dead cyclists.

I'm not sure that's true any more with the green stuff. I'm noticing coloured tarmac is being laid
routinely on all sorts of brand new (and existing?) cycle lanes (in Greater London) - including long
ones where it's certainly not all dangerous or busy. New ASL's too. It seems to have become the
norm. Sad because apart from anything else, the course texture is horrible and slow to ride on
(after it's been down for a few weeks/months) - especially when on high pressure tyres. A bit of
white paint I can take, but these coloured lanes really spoil cycling.

~PB