Cycle Genius vs. EZ1

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They have back issues and have tested both models. It would seem that the Cycle Genius was faster,
more akin to a SWB in feel. A poor mans P-38?

John H N TX

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Dave, Welcome back! For information on the EZ1 and Cycle Genius, go to
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They have back issues and have tested both models. It would seem that the Cycle Genius was faster,
more akin to a SWB in feel. A poor mans P-38?

John H N TX

Thanks, John...I'll check it out. Is RCN alive on the 'net as well??

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Greetings!

Some of you may remember me as the former commanding officer of the Texas P-38 Squadron in Corpus
Christi. I pretty much gave up cycling a couple years ago (more like three) and sold my Lightning.
I bought a Rowbike but ended up selling that two. Now I find nagging foot problems are keeping me
from running/jogging (which is what started me as a hard core cyclist in Berlin in late 80s), so
I've started riding on a $250 DF around the hood. I have about a six mile route and that's
probably as much as I'll ever do. But just that six miles produces much discomfort and brings back
a longing for my P-38. I don't have the cash to do another high end bike, but I am considering
getting 'bent again. These two machines appear to be what I'm looking for. I saw a CG in my LBS
and thought it looked pretty interesting with that little bit higher than normal BB for a CLWB;
however, doesn't seem you can go wrong with an EasyRacer's design. Any opinions out there on these
two bikes at their base level?

One other question--beside the hpr-for-sale list, any other good sources for used 'bents?

Dave, You might want to venture up to Houston to visit with Adam and the CG. I think you will find
the CG comes closer to a performance bike than the EZ-1. The only drawback I find with the CG is the
seat. Although this has been improved since I last rode a CG. I would recommend the 20X20 models
(20²)over the 16X20

As I said 'closer to a performance bike'. The CG is not there yet but it has potential. IMO the EZ-1
does not. You shoulda kept the P-38.

Commander, since you have retired from the Squadron, can I have a promotion?
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RCN is alive and well. We've got a new website with lots of sample material including a full pdf of
RCN 070 (CG24 review) and an html SC Lite review.

However, we're still a print newsletter.

Both the EZ1 and CG are built in the same Taiwan factory and have similar build qualities. The CG
vs. EZ1 comparison is sort of like the Easy Racer vs. Lightning comparison. While the EZ1 is a
more forgiving user friendly design, the CG has a higher BB and feels a bit more SWB-like (a SWB
without a boom).

Which one a rider prefers would be personal preference.

CG does offer an equivelant to the SC Lite (alum) in the ALX20 which has dual 20s and disc brakes.

We've got an ALX20 review coming up in RCN 076 (our next issue)

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Dave (the blast from the past - sure it wasn't Bush or Rumsfeld that brought you out of retirement? They do that. ;-)

Anyway, if you liked a high BB bike before, The the CG is the one to try. Also consider that it has a full mesh seat. The seat comes with a cushion, but you could try it without. If it works without, I would think that would be a plus in your climate. In any case the seat also seems to resemble more closely the P-38.

Another P-38 - like option is obviously the Thunderbolt. Might be in the range price-wise too.

Cheers,
John Riley
johnriley1 (at) rogers.com

Cletus Lee said:

You shoulda kept the P-38.

If I had it to do over again....

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Commander, since you have retired from the Squadron, can I have a promotion?

Sure...I'll fire off a message to personnel in the morning! :-)

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RCN is alive and well. We've got a new website with lots of sample material including a full pdf of
RCN 070 (CG24 review) and an html SC Lite review.

Glad to hear it--I'll check it out.

Quoted message said:

Both the EZ1 and CG are built in the same Taiwan factory and have similar build qualities. The CG
vs. EZ1 comparison is sort of like the Easy Racer vs. Lightning comparison. While the EZ1 is a
more forgiving user friendly design, the CG has a higher BB and feels a bit more SWB-like (a SWB
without a boom).

Well I always wanted to try a GRR as a P-38 owner. The thing is I don't think there are any EZ1s in
town available for a test drive but I can try out the CG

Thanks, Bob.

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John Riley said:

Dave (the blast from the past - sure it wasn't Bush or Rumsfeld that brought you out of retirement?
They do that. ;-)

LOL!! BTW, did you remember to turn out the lights before you left GEnie?

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Anyway, if you liked a high BB bike before, The the CG is the one to try. Also consider that it has
a full mesh seat. The seat comes with a cushion, but you could try it without. If it works without,
I would think that would be a plus in your climate. In any case the seat also seems to resemble
more closely the P-38.

Another P-38 - like option is obviously the Thunderbolt. Might be in the range price-wise too.

My mindset going into this is that performance, other than proper functioning of the mechanics,
isn't really on my list of priorities for this potential purchase. What I am looking for is:

1. Comfort
2. Minimum expense
3. Comfort
4. Adequate shifting, braking, etc
5. Cheap
6. Comfort

That about does it. I think the chances that I will return to hard core, 45 mile work commute,
century-riding cycling is minuscule. I am now a golf addict which takes up my time and money. Like I
said, I just want to tool around the neighborhood and burn a few calories. I've gone from 253 to 224
in the last three months or so and want to keep going (that reminds me--is Bill Volk still around?).
So speed, cornering ability, and that type of performance isn't a big factor. I just want to get in
a ride without my hands going numb and getting a rolling wedgie.

I guess one other option is a BikeE. I was never a fan from a strictly aesthetics basis--I just
didn't care for the way they look. But I received a private email saying there were some out there
still in boxes at deep discount so I may look at that also.

Thanks again!

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(that reminds me--is Bill Volk still around?)

He posted to the IHPVA mail list last week. Replaced the hardshell seat on his ZOX with a RANS seat.

John Riley