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  1. I've been looking for a new bike for the past couple of weeks to
    commute and get around the city, with maybe some occasional
    riding-for-pleasure on the side. I've been checking out bike shops and
    trying out hybrids, and more or less decided on a Norco Yorkville
    (right price, seemed OK, although not spectacular).

    Today, I stopped into a bike shop on a whim, and tried out a
    multi-speed cruiser (a Gulfstream, I think) for the very first time. It
    was, I think, the most comfortable bike I have ever had the pleasure of
    riding. I really enjoyed sitting upright, and the handlebars were
    really comfortably placed as well. The bike itself felt really solid.

    What are the relative merits of these bikes? The cruiser was really
    comfortable...why don't we see them around? That particular one was
    sitting all by itself on the clearance rack, yet I've never ridden a
    bike quite like it.

    Thoughts?

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    Quoted message said:

    What are the relative merits of these bikes? The cruiser was really
    comfortable...why don't we see them around? That particular one was
    sitting all by itself on the clearance rack, yet I've never ridden a
    bike quite like it.

    IMO, the main problem is that they're self-limiting. If all you ever want is
    to ride short distances on a more or less casual basis, a cruiser is a nice
    alternative. But the more you ride, the more their shortcomings reveal
    themselves - weight, saddles that chafe, posture that maximizes wind
    resistance. But within their limitations, for local riding in street
    clothes, for errand running where speed isn't an issue, for riding where
    there's a lot of sand, a fat-tired cruiser can be a real nice bike.

    RichC

  3. It was 21-speed, so I didn't encounter much trouble climbing. Can a
    regular, straight-bar hybrid really do things a cruiser can't?

    Apparently they're quite popular in the Netherlands. Why is that?

    Rich Clark said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What are the relative merits of these bikes? The cruiser was really
    comfortable...why don't we see them around? That particular one was
    sitting all by itself on the clearance rack, yet I've never ridden a
    bike quite like it.

    IMO, the main problem is that they're self-limiting. If all you ever want is
    to ride short distances on a more or less casual basis, a cruiser is a nice
    alternative. But the more you ride, the more their shortcomings reveal
    themselves - weight, saddles that chafe, posture that maximizes wind
    resistance. But within their limitations, for local riding in street
    clothes, for errand running where speed isn't an issue, for riding where
    there's a lot of sand, a fat-tired cruiser can be a real nice bike.

    RichC

  4. Quoted message said:

    I've been looking for a new bike for the past couple of weeks to
    commute and get around the city, with maybe some occasional
    riding-for-pleasure on the side. I've been checking out bike shops and
    trying out hybrids, and more or less decided on a Norco Yorkville
    (right price, seemed OK, although not spectacular).

    Today, I stopped into a bike shop on a whim, and tried out a
    multi-speed cruiser (a Gulfstream, I think) for the very first time. It
    was, I think, the most comfortable bike I have ever had the pleasure of
    riding. I really enjoyed sitting upright, and the handlebars were
    really comfortably placed as well. The bike itself felt really solid.

    What are the relative merits of these bikes? The cruiser was really
    comfortable...why don't we see them around? That particular one was
    sitting all by itself on the clearance rack, yet I've never ridden a
    bike quite like it.

    Thoughts?

    Riding alone, a cruiser often seems like a really nice unit; the
    upright position (for someone who is not an enthusiast of any stripe
    already) is less demanding on the rider, and the fat tires provide a
    reasonably damped ride. However, if your aim is to participate in
    group rides at some point, the hybrid is generally going to be the
    better bet; its reduced rolling resistance through narrower,
    higher-pressure tires, and its slightly more efficient (if slightly
    less comfortable for some riders) seating position will, in my
    experience, generally produce a higher cruising speed for the same
    effort.

    For just getting around, a cruiser is not a bad choice, but there are
    reasons why the other types exist as well. Interestingly, what is
    regarded as a "hybrid" in the US market today is more closely related
    to what was (and is) commonly used in much of Europe.
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  5. For the most part, I'll be commuting to work or to class. I might ride
    with a couple friends here and there.

    Werehatrack said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been looking for a new bike for the past couple of weeks to
    commute and get around the city, with maybe some occasional
    riding-for-pleasure on the side. I've been checking out bike shops and
    trying out hybrids, and more or less decided on a Norco Yorkville
    (right price, seemed OK, although not spectacular).

    Today, I stopped into a bike shop on a whim, and tried out a
    multi-speed cruiser (a Gulfstream, I think) for the very first time. It
    was, I think, the most comfortable bike I have ever had the pleasure of
    riding. I really enjoyed sitting upright, and the handlebars were
    really comfortably placed as well. The bike itself felt really solid.

    What are the relative merits of these bikes? The cruiser was really
    comfortable...why don't we see them around? That particular one was
    sitting all by itself on the clearance rack, yet I've never ridden a
    bike quite like it.

    Thoughts?

    Riding alone, a cruiser often seems like a really nice unit; the
    upright position (for someone who is not an enthusiast of any stripe
    already) is less demanding on the rider, and the fat tires provide a
    reasonably damped ride. However, if your aim is to participate in
    group rides at some point, the hybrid is generally going to be the
    better bet; its reduced rolling resistance through narrower,
    higher-pressure tires, and its slightly more efficient (if slightly
    less comfortable for some riders) seating position will, in my
    experience, generally produce a higher cruising speed for the same
    effort.

    For just getting around, a cruiser is not a bad choice, but there are
    reasons why the other types exist as well. Interestingly, what is
    regarded as a "hybrid" in the US market today is more closely related
    to what was (and is) commonly used in much of Europe.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  6. Quoted message said:

    It was 21-speed, so I didn't encounter much trouble climbing. Can a
    regular, straight-bar hybrid really do things a cruiser can't?

    Apparently they're quite popular in the Netherlands. Why is that?


    I don't think they are that popular, more hybrid style and commuter
    bikes, IIRC.

  7. "Werehatrack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On 11 Jul 2006 18:16:02 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    Interestingly, what is
    regarded as a "hybrid" in the US market today is more closely related
    to what was (and is) commonly used in much of Europe.

    It Is? Most cyclists i know ride M/ATB. Methinks milord that ye view is
    skewered to pre-war (excluding all gulf and middle eastern).

    p.s. top of the range bone-shaker for sale! 12 groats.

  8. Quoted message said:

    It was 21-speed, so I didn't encounter much trouble climbing. Can a
    regular, straight-bar hybrid really do things a cruiser can't?

    There are so many variations that the categories can tend to blend. A
    classic cruiser is very heavy (40+ pounds), has very fat tires, and
    swept-back handlebars that put the rider in a bolt-upright position.

    In the US market, many "comfort bikes" ride much like cruisers, even
    though they tend to look more like mountain bike-like objects.

    Many hybrids are becoming more like flat-bar road bikes: much lighter
    and faster than cruisers or comfort bikes.

    Quoted message said:


    Apparently they're quite popular in the Netherlands. Why is that?

    I wouldn't know. But I understand there's a lot of the sort of
    short-distance utility cycling for which these bikes are quite
    suitable. And I believe it's very flat there.

    But even in Holland, I'll bet that you find very few people putting in
    150+ miles a week on cruisers.

    RichC

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