Crime 'hotspot' study angers city

"Joseph" <[email hidden]> wrote in glorious HTML:

WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES
Vehicle crime: Nottingham
Rape: Portsmouth
Assault: Leicester
Burglary: Stockport
Robbery: Manchester
Gun crime: Bradford
Murder: Nottingham
Source: Reform report

Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from
manchester?

You'll have to tell us what proportion of these crimes were perpetrated by
Liverpool supporters on bikes before this'll be remotely on-topic ;-)

At 08:46:38 on 23/05/2006, Budstaff delighted uk.sport.football.clubs.liverpool
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Quoted message said:

"Joseph" <[email hidden]> wrote in glorious HTML:

WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES
Vehicle crime: Nottingham
Rape: Portsmouth
Assault: Leicester
Burglary: Stockport
Robbery: Manchester
Gun crime: Bradford
Murder: Nottingham
Source: Reform report

Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from
manchester?

You'll have to tell us what proportion of these crimes were perpetrated by
Liverpool supporters on bikes before this'll be remotely on-topic ;-)

For murder: Nottingham top (5.21 per 100,000), Manchester 7th (3.04), Liverpool
20th (2.1) - average 2.01

For rape: Portsmouth's top (6.55 per 10,000), Manchester 11th (5.35),
Liverpool's 40th (3.52) - average 3.91

Assault: Leicester's top (30.91 per 1,000), Manchester 17th (20.70), Liverpool
20th (20.41) - average 18.62

Burglary: Stockport top (41.21 per 1,000), Manchester 8th (28.72), Liverpool
23rd (16.75) - average 16.77

Robbery: Manchester top (8.78 per 1,000), Liverpool 9th (3.74) - average 3.84

Vehicle: Nottingham (40.30 per 1,000), Manchester 2nd (39.65), Liverpool 25th
(21.29) - average 20.61

Gun: Bradford (12.53 per 10,000), Manchester 15th (2.92), Liverpool 28th (1.68)
- average 3.86

Overall: Nottingham (115.54 per 1,000), Manchester 5th (98.71), Liverpool 21st
(62.73) - average 61.42

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Premiership: Manchester 2nd, Liverpool 3rd

SW said:

Premiership: Manchester 2nd, Liverpool 3rd

Shame neither of us were good enough to win it..

Quoted message said:

WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES
Vehicle crime: Nottingham

Obstructing traffic while cycling: Southend on Sea
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Joseph said:

WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES

Quoted message said:

Source: Reform report

Which can be found here
http://www.reform.co.uk/filestore/pdf/Urban%20crime%20rankings,%20Reform,%202006.pdf

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Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from manchester?

Is there any way you could not post to Usenet in HTML?

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in message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook

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Joseph said:

WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES

Quoted message said:

Source: Reform report

Which can be found here
http://www.reform.co.uk/filestore/pdf/Urban%20crime%20rankings

%20Reform,%202006.pdf

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from
manchester?

Is there any way you could not post to Usenet in HTML?

To be fair, he posted in 'multipart/alternative', of which one part was
correctly labelled as 'text/plain'. If your client is configured to
prefer 'text/html' as an alternative to 'text/plain', that seems to me
your problem not his.

My client, knode, correctly showed the plain text version, as one would
expect.

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Joseph said:

*/Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from
manchester?/*

It hardly goes there anyway. Even the Manchester Cycleway is only
Manchester in the Greater sense. (It's aka the Fallowfield Loop,
although it's not a loop, it goes in a straight line - when it was a
railway it was an avoiding loop, the obstruction it avoided being
Manchester itself! It's a great way of getting across the city though.
(the M/C cycleway, not the TPT which is convoluted and dodgy in places)

Simon

Are people confusing The City of Salford with the City of Manchester?
:-)

"SW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Premiership: Manchester 2nd, Liverpool 3rd

Simon Geller said:

Joseph said:

*/Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from
manchester?/*

It hardly goes there anyway. Even the Manchester Cycleway is only
Manchester in the Greater sense. (It's aka the Fallowfield Loop,
although it's not a loop, it goes in a straight line - when it was a
railway it was an avoiding loop, the obstruction it avoided being
Manchester itself! It's a great way of getting across the city though.
(the M/C cycleway, not the TPT which is convoluted and dodgy in places)

Simon

As the city in question is in fact Nottingham, I think the TPT is safe
where it is:

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Simon Brooke said:

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Rape: Portsmouth
Assault: Leicester
Burglary: Stockport
Robbery: Manchester
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Source: Reform report

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook

(') said:

Joseph said:

WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES
Source: Reform report

Which can be found here
http://www.reform.co.uk/filestore/pdf/Urban%20crime%20rankings

%20Reform,%202006.pdf

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is there any way of moving the Trans Pennine Trail further away from
manchester?

Is there any way you could not post to Usenet in HTML?

To be fair, he posted in 'multipart/alternative', of which one part was
correctly labelled as 'text/plain'. If your client is configured to
prefer 'text/html' as an alternative to 'text/plain', that seems to me
your problem not his.

My client, knode, correctly showed the plain text version, as one would
expect.

It's not always how the message looks that annoys folk, it's the waste
of bandwidth too; His message will have trebled in size. This isn't a
problem for people on broadband, but many still aren't or perhaps access
newsgroups from PDA's with GPRS etc.

in message <[email hidden]>, TheMgt

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Simon Brooke said:

To be fair, he posted in 'multipart/alternative', of which one part
was correctly labelled as 'text/plain'. If your client is configured
to prefer 'text/html' as an alternative to 'text/plain', that seems to
me your problem not his.

How readable is this.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

It was a correctly formatted multi-part MIME message, just as it said it
was. If your news client isn't modern enough to handle MIME (a standard
specified in 1992, only fourteen years ago), don't you think it's about
time you got one that is?

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in message <[email hidden]>, Simon Dobson

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook

(') said:

Is there any way you could not post to Usenet in HTML?

To be fair, he posted in 'multipart/alternative', of which one part
was correctly labelled as 'text/plain'. If your client is configured
to prefer 'text/html' as an alternative to 'text/plain', that seems to
me your problem not his.

My client, knode, correctly showed the plain text version, as one
would expect.

It's not always how the message looks that annoys folk, it's the waste
of bandwidth too; His message will have trebled in size. This isn't a
problem for people on broadband, but many still aren't or perhaps
access newsgroups from PDA's with GPRS etc.

True, and fair enough.

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A: Like a spider, but nowhere near as intelligent.

At 09:47:13 on 24/05/2006, Simon Brooke delighted
uk.sport.football.clubs.liverpool by announcing:

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in message <[email hidden]>, TheMgt

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Simon Brooke said:

To be fair, he posted in 'multipart/alternative', of which one part
was correctly labelled as 'text/plain'. If your client is configured
to prefer 'text/html' as an alternative to 'text/plain', that seems to
me your problem not his.

How readable is this.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

It was a correctly formatted multi-part MIME message, just as it said it
was. If your news client isn't modern enough to handle MIME (a standard
specified in 1992, only fourteen years ago), don't you think it's about
time you got one that is?

Why are MIME messages being posted to text-only groups?

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