creaky klein

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the creaks seem to come when i'm seated, and not when i
stand for

downhills

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or climbs.

I have a creaking sound when I'm seated too. It's my saddle
of course. Been meaning to lube it.

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i'm not a bike expert, or maintenance expert, so i wanted
to bounce something off the group.

i've got a 2003 klein attitude with not so many miles
(maybe 200

off-road),

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a slipping seatpost (common kein problem?) and some
annoying creaks. i've looked for cracks and don't see any.
(i really doubt that i'd have them anyway, because i
haven't had any hard crashes, i only weigh 150 lbs.)

the creaks seem to come when i'm seated, and not when i
stand for

downhills

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or climbs.

so my idea is that the seatpost slips, and the sound echos
down the

top-tube

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making a loud creak.

does that sound at all possible?

and btw, what is the best fix for a slipping klein
seatpost?

Slipping seatpost, common Klein problem? I don't think
so. Maybe so, but news to me. Never had issues with my
Thomson in my 98 Klein Mantra, nor heard of several
other Klein owners I know having a problem.

The creaking is another story, and yes, a common
problem, not just for Kleins, but maybe especially so
with Mantras. Yes, everything echoes through the tubes,
especially the big "boom" tube on the Mantras. I have
found ALL of the following to be guilty parties at one
time or another: (first two are the likely culprits for
you, since you say noise stops if you're off the seat.)
1. Seat tube: rocking ever so slightly (but not slipping
down at all.) The fix: take it out and clean well, inside
tube included, then regrease all surfaces (tube, post,
collar, bolt parts) and reinstall.
2. Seat rails: titanium rails were HORRIBLY noisy for me.
The fix: I went back to cromoly and stopped most of the
problem. Cleaning and lubing helps when they're noisy.
3. Crank/Bottom bracket. The fix: Remove, clean, regrease,
reinstall. (I use antiseize compound on BB threads.)
4. Headset/stem. Same fix... remove, clean, regrease,
reinstall.
5. Pivot "bushings." Seems to me they are more like teflon
liners on the Mantra setup, but they are noisy at times,
and the only fix I know of is to wait them out. The grit
or whatever gets in and creaks has to find another place
to go. No hurrying it along as far as I know, but it does
eventually go away.
6. More rarely for me, Pedals. Fix... errm,,, ??? New Times?

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 03:23:21 -0400, "D H" <[email hidden]> blathered:

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i've got a 2003 klein attitude with not so many miles
(maybe 200

off-road),

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a slipping seatpost (common kein problem?)

Not for me with an older model.

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and some annoying creaks.

Quoted message said:

the creaks seem to come when i'm seated, and not when i
stand for

downhills or climbs.

Quoted message said:

so my idea is that the seatpost slips, and the sound
echos down the

top-tube

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making a loud creak.

does that sound at all possible?

and btw, what is the best fix for a slipping klein
seatpost?

The creaking is another story, and yes, a common
problem, not just for Kleins, but maybe especially so
with Mantras.

He's got a rigid Attitude frame, so all the pivot stuff,
while maybe correct, doesn't really apply here. Neither does
the BB/crank/headset/pedal stuff, probably - the creaks
would be more likely to manifest themselves when he's
standing up on the pedals honking, not when he's seated.

Most likely the saddle I would've thought. Is the seatpost
noticeably slipping down within the frame, or are you
theorising?

Pete

socks said:

i'm not a bike expert, or maintenance expert, so i wanted
to bounce something off the group.

i've got a 2003 klein attitude with not so many miles
(maybe 200 off-road), a slipping seatpost (common kein
problem?) and some annoying creaks. i've looked for cracks
and don't see any. (i really doubt that i'd have them
anyway, because i haven't had any hard crashes, i only
weigh 150 lbs.)

the creaks seem to come when i'm seated, and not when i
stand for downhills or climbs.

so my idea is that the seatpost slips, and the sound echos
down the top-tube making a loud creak.

does that sound at all possible?

and btw, what is the best fix for a slipping klein
seatpost?

For the slipping:

Clean the interfaces thoughroughly, then reinstall with a
little teflon grease, do up collar REAL tight, try swapping
to a bolt type collar if you have a quick release one now.

For the noise:

Might be fixed when you get the above done, failing that
check the other end of the seat post. Where it clamps to the
seat rails, clean and grease a little, then retighten the
clamp bolt, really tight. I have also found that sometimes
seat creak eminates from the interface between the seat
rails and the seat moulding iteself. A drip of GT85 or
similar into the joint cures that one. You are correct in
suggesting that the frame's aluminium tubes amplify the
small noises.

Best of luck

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Mark

"socks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

i'm not a bike expert, or maintenance expert, so i wanted
to bounce something off the group.

i've got a 2003 klein attitude with not so many miles
(maybe 200

off-road),

Quoted message said:

a slipping seatpost (common kein problem?) and some
annoying creaks. i've looked for cracks and don't see any.
(i really doubt that i'd have them anyway, because i
haven't had any hard crashes, i only weigh 150 lbs.)

the creaks seem to come when i'm seated, and not when i
stand for

downhills

Quoted message said:

or climbs.

so my idea is that the seatpost slips, and the sound echos
down the

top-tube

Quoted message said:

making a loud creak.

does that sound at all possible?

and btw, what is the best fix for a slipping klein
seatpost?

I had the same problem with a Giant NRS, I finally found
that the slit in the seat post collar had to be in alignment
with the slit in the frame at the seat post clamp, once
everything was all in alignment, no more creaks.

Shim the seat post. My shim would be,cut from any AL soda or
beer can. Grease and lube every metal part.

I MTB 2004

thanks all, i'll start trying these ideas as i can.

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"socks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

i'm not a bike expert, or maintenance expert, so i wanted
to bounce something off the group.

i've got a 2003 klein attitude with not so many miles
(maybe 200

off-road),

Quoted message said:

a slipping seatpost (common kein problem?) and some
annoying creaks. i've looked for cracks and don't see any.
(i really doubt that i'd have them anyway, because i
haven't had any hard crashes, i only weigh 150 lbs.)

the creaks seem to come when i'm seated, and not when i
stand for

downhills

Quoted message said:

or climbs.

so my idea is that the seatpost slips, and the sound echos
down the

top-tube

Quoted message said:

making a loud creak.

does that sound at all possible?

and btw, what is the best fix for a slipping klein
seatpost?

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Pete Jones said:

Most likely the saddle I would've thought. Is the seatpost
noticeably slipping down within the frame, or are you
theorising?

noticible, like 1/2 inch to an inch over the course of a
ride. i think i've got the QR cranked down pretty tight.