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  1. Hi folks,

    I haven't posted here before, so please be nice to a fairly casual
    cyclist :-)

    I bought a new road bike the other day (a Giant OCR-3), my old
    one being on its last (wobbly!) wheels, and it has a different means of
    setting handlebar height - a click-stop rotating joint between the stem and
    rod attached to it. (I hope that makes sense, because I'm not up with the
    jargon.)

    Anyway, this joint started creaking loudly during my first ride when
    any unbalanced pressure was applied to the handlebars, so I
    took it back to the dealer, who greased it up, and it seemed to be
    fixed. After another couple of rides it's started doing it again, though.

    I'm wondering what I should do about, because it's pretty annoying.
    Could it just be faulty? Is there a long-term fix, short of filling the
    damn thing with epoxy? Failing this, should I expect the dealer to do
    anything more, like swap the parts for something creak-free or exchange
    the entire bike?

    Any advice appreciated.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

  2. Hi Michael..

    I have a Giant OCR-1 2003 with the to part adjustable neck/stem thing (not
    up with the terms just yet either)... that is known to creak.. If this is
    the same on your bike, then I have the same issue, but not as bad... As its
    a two part device, I'm thinking of putting a thin layer of rubber as some
    kind of buffer in the middle of it and trialling that in the next few weeks,
    just a thought for now, it might fail dismally...

    Keep us updated on your solution when you sort it out...

    cheers,
    GPL

    "Michael Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi folks,

    I haven't posted here before, so please be nice to a fairly casual
    cyclist :-)

    I bought a new road bike the other day (a Giant OCR-3), my old
    one being on its last (wobbly!) wheels, and it has a different means of
    setting handlebar height - a click-stop rotating joint between the stem


    and

    Quoted message said:

    rod attached to it. (I hope that makes sense, because I'm not up with the
    jargon.)

    Anyway, this joint started creaking loudly during my first ride when
    any unbalanced pressure was applied to the handlebars, so I
    took it back to the dealer, who greased it up, and it seemed to be
    fixed. After another couple of rides it's started doing it again, though.

    I'm wondering what I should do about, because it's pretty annoying.
    Could it just be faulty? Is there a long-term fix, short of filling the
    damn thing with epoxy? Failing this, should I expect the dealer to do
    anything more, like swap the parts for something creak-free or exchange
    the entire bike?

    Any advice appreciated.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

  3. "Michael Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi folks,

    I haven't posted here before, so please be nice to a fairly casual
    cyclist :-)

    I bought a new road bike the other day (a Giant OCR-3), my old
    one being on its last (wobbly!) wheels, and it has a different means of
    setting handlebar height - a click-stop rotating joint between the stem


    and

    Quoted message said:

    rod attached to it. (I hope that makes sense, because I'm not up with the
    jargon.)

    Anyway, this joint started creaking loudly during my first ride when
    any unbalanced pressure was applied to the handlebars, so I
    took it back to the dealer, who greased it up, and it seemed to be
    fixed. After another couple of rides it's started doing it again, though.

    Liar! Giants DO NOT creak! ;-)

  4. "mnh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:405e386c@news1...

    Quoted message said:


    "Michael Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi folks,

    I haven't posted here before, so please be nice to a fairly casual
    cyclist :-)

    I bought a new road bike the other day (a Giant OCR-3), my old
    one being on its last (wobbly!) wheels, and it has a different means of
    setting handlebar height - a click-stop rotating joint between the stem


    and

    Quoted message said:

    rod attached to it. (I hope that makes sense, because I'm not up with


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    jargon.)

    Anyway, this joint started creaking loudly during my first ride when
    any unbalanced pressure was applied to the handlebars, so I
    took it back to the dealer, who greased it up, and it seemed to be
    fixed. After another couple of rides it's started doing it again,


    though.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Liar! Giants DO NOT creak! ;-)


    Yeah! They ROAR.

    ;-)

  5. I have a a Giant OCR-3 as well
    There is a small creaking sound when pressure applied to handlebars, I
    figured this was caused by the 'electrical insulation tape' (thats what it
    looks like) wraped around the bars which holds the grip material at the stem
    ends, This is also where the brake cable exist from under the grip.

    Andrew

    "Michael Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi folks,

    I haven't posted here before, so please be nice to a fairly casual
    cyclist :-)

    I bought a new road bike the other day (a Giant OCR-3), my old
    one being on its last (wobbly!) wheels, and it has a different means of
    setting handlebar height - a click-stop rotating joint between the stem


    and

    Quoted message said:

    rod attached to it. (I hope that makes sense, because I'm not up with the
    jargon.)

    Anyway, this joint started creaking loudly during my first ride when
    any unbalanced pressure was applied to the handlebars, so I
    took it back to the dealer, who greased it up, and it seemed to be
    fixed. After another couple of rides it's started doing it again, though.

    I'm wondering what I should do about, because it's pretty annoying.
    Could it just be faulty? Is there a long-term fix, short of filling the
    damn thing with epoxy? Failing this, should I expect the dealer to do
    anything more, like swap the parts for something creak-free or exchange
    the entire bike?

    Any advice appreciated.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

  6. Michael Warner said:

    I bought a new road bike the other day (a Giant OCR-3), my old
    one being on its last (wobbly!) wheels, and it has a different
    means of setting handlebar height - a click-stop rotating joint
    between the stem and rod attached to it. (I hope that makes
    sense, because I'm not up with the jargon.)

    Anyway, this joint started creaking loudly during my first ride
    when any unbalanced pressure was applied to the handlebars, so
    I took it back to the dealer, who greased it up, and it seemed
    to be fixed. After another couple of rides it's started doing
    it again, though.

    I'm wondering what I should do about, because it's pretty
    annoying. Could it just be faulty? Is there a long-term fix,
    short of filling the damn thing with epoxy? Failing this,
    should I expect the dealer to do anything more, like swap the
    parts for something creak-free or exchange the entire bike?

    I had the same problem with the same part on my Avanti Hybrid
    soon after buying it. As with yours, my LBS (local bike shop)
    seemed unable to fix it for more than a short time.

    Because it's a safety-critical component, I took matters into my
    own hands, and I bought and fitted a replacement stem (with a
    fixed angle, and much lighter). No problems in that area now
    (with 12,000 km up).

    Maybe I should have persevered with my LBS, but I didn't want to
    take the risk of them weakening something.

    John

  7. Michael Warner said:

    I'm wondering what I should do about, because it's pretty annoying.
    Could it just be faulty? Is there a long-term fix, short of filling the
    damn thing with epoxy? Failing this, should I expect the dealer to do
    anything more, like swap the parts for something creak-free or exchange
    the entire bike?

    I had a very similar problem that occured after building up th
    tourer in January, a $%&!ing annoying creak on the lefthand side o
    the head stem

    The "Hello Kitty" tourer has a adjustable Zoom head stem, combined wit
    a touring bars (via Christies, via Abbotsford Cycles

    The creak was literally driving me nuts, was it a rubbing cable housing
    was it a conflict btw components or something worse? A liberal soakin
    of the head stem with race day lube has stopped the noise, for now

    -

  8. Quoted message said:

    Originally posted by cfsmtb I had a very similar problem that occure
    after building up the tourer in January, a $%&!ing annoying creak o
    the lefthand side of the head stem

    I also had an annoying "eerk eerk eerk" creak going on with the Ritche
    stem on my trials bike

    Stems are something you DO NOT want to have snap, become loose or mov
    around whilst riding. Not _too_ bad for trials bike at <5kph, but thin
    of the consequences of a 70kph downhill with your stem letting go o
    your bars! (Okay, so it's unlikely most people will be reefing on thei
    bars going downhill, but I often do when sprinting downhill...

    My track bike also starting making a "possible stem-related noise
    tonight which I have to check out - the bars did take a hard hit when
    stacked - could've loosened themselves

    Anyway, to reduce the chance of noise, undo your stem and shift the bar
    so you can see where it is clamping. Inspect for damage. Clean the bar
    and the stem clamp! Refit the bars and tighten the stem. I don't kno
    what the required torque is - I just clamp them down tight withou
    stripping any threads. Rock the bars to check for noise or movement
    They should be all good

    About these adjustable stems - does anyone have a picture? I don't se
    much need for them other than in the early stages of bike fitting whe
    it allows you to mess with different riding positions. I'd remove the
    asap and fit a nice, preferably non-welded, non-superlight stem o
    fixed length..

    hipp
    - injecting stem-paranoia into a forum near you

    -

  9. hippy said:

    About these adjustable stems - does anyone have a picture?

    Mine was similar to (but not exactly the same as)
    http://www.sjscycles.com/store/quillstem5578.jpg

    John

  10. Originally posted by hipp

    Quoted message said:

    My track bike also starting making a "possible stem-related noise
    tonight which I have to check out - the bars did take a hard hit whe
    I stacked - could've loosened themselves

    I saw an A grader at Heffron snap his handlebar clean in half once in
    sprint. Wasn't pretty

    Perhaps new bars would be a good idea

    Regards

    Suz

    -

  11. My Trek was making a weird 'crack'ing kind of creak in the top of th
    head tube not long after I bought it. It only happened when I was on th
    hoods on rougher patches of road-or when I tugged at the bars trying t
    find out where the hell it was coming from. Back at LBS (always) w
    pulled the fork out and found a little bit of water and a little bit o
    flaky blue paint, thank me for the moisture, thank the lads in Taiwa
    for the paint. So we cleans it up, checks for more loose paint, adds
    bit of grease and now I can only hear the tyres

    (apart from the headwind, magpies, flies, trucks and abuse that is.

    -

  12. GPLama said:

    I have a Giant OCR-1 2003 with the to part adjustable neck/stem thing (not
    up with the terms just yet either)... that is known to creak.. If this is
    the same on your bike, then I have the same issue, but not as bad... As its
    a two part device, I'm thinking of putting a thin layer of rubber as some
    kind of buffer in the middle of it and trialling that in the next few weeks,
    just a thought for now, it might fail dismally...

    Yes, I was thinking of something like this, although I haven't pulled the
    joint apart yet to see what's rubbing against what. I have some latex
    surgical gloves (the thin disposable kind), so I might try a piece of that
    stuff.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

  13. andrew said:

    I have a a Giant OCR-3 as well
    There is a small creaking sound when pressure applied to handlebars, I
    figured this was caused by the 'electrical insulation tape' (thats what it
    looks like) wraped around the bars which holds the grip material at the stem
    ends, This is also where the brake cable exist from under the grip.

    That seems unlikely to me. I'm sure it's the joint, because loosening it up
    (to the point where the handlebars move a little) stops it.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

  14. John Henderson said:

    Because it's a safety-critical component, I took matters into my
    own hands, and I bought and fitted a replacement stem (with a
    fixed angle, and much lighter). No problems in that area now
    (with 12,000 km up).

    That sounds pretty sensible, once you've settled on the best angle.
    When my bike fund recovers I'll have a look at this :-)

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

  15. hippy said:


    I also had an annoying "eerk eerk eerk" creak going on with the Ritchey
    stem on my trials bike.

    Have you checked for green tree frogs in the head tube? :-)

    Hey, you're not going to tell us you ride trials as well as
    road/track/MTB/tri!? Is there no end to this man's versatility (or his
    hair)? Got any pics of yourself trialling?

    &roo

  16. Andrew Swan said:
    hippy said:


    I also had an annoying "eerk eerk eerk" creak going on with the
    Ritchey stem on my trials bike.


    Have you checked for green tree frogs in the head tube? :-)
    Hey, you're not going to tell us you ride trials as well as
    road/track/MTB/tri!? Is there no end to this man's versatility (or his
    hair)? Got any pics of yourself trialling?
    &roo

    😄 Hehe... so true. Quite intimidating, hearing him talk about his bik
    collection. ;

    And whats this I hear about a crash on the track, Stu? :eek: Didn't se
    you at training on Thursday, are you racing at METEC now

    -

  17. hippy said:

    hehe yeah.. 1st race = 1st crash. Just continuing the trend. 🙂

    How did ya do it? Your fault

    *strokes chin* The trials bike is still for sale, is it? How much ar
    you asking? :

    -

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