Crash!

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:14:04 -0800 (PST), POHB <[email hidden]>

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>> >> I caught this crash on camera.

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>> >> What happened? Who is responsible?

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Does this offer any further clue?

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www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash02a-Hide quoted text -

Flared trouser caught on crank or in the chain?

Squirrel assault?

No.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:47:31 GMT, Martin Dann <[email hidden]>

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Tom Crispin said:

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:48:33 -0800 (PST), David Martin

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Looks like instead of riding up the left side, turning and riding
back, some of your little darlings rode up the wrong side. Maybe one
left(right?) hooked the other, or it was a head on at the turn (one
went up the right side, turned left, the other went up the left,
turned right).

Nope.

Does this offer any further clue?

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash02a

Did "someone" suggest that your kiddies move out of the way of the guy
with the altura jacket on, at which point they all made a mad dash to
the right.

No. He's a she anyway, and she's another instructor.

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:14:04 -0800 (PST), POHB <[email hidden]>

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> >> >> I caught this crash on camera.

> >> >> What happened? Who is responsible?

> Does this offer any further clue?

>www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash02a-Hide quoted text -

Flared trouser caught on crank or in the chain?

Squirrel assault?

No.

Earthquake causing a hole to appear, send the kids flying, then just as
quickly seal up as if nothing had happened?

cheers,
clive

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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:07:14 GMT, Martin Dann <[email hidden]>

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Tom Crispin wrote:
> I took a group of 12 Year 2 children (age 6/7) to Greenwich Park to
> hone their cycling skills.

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> I caught this crash on camera.

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> What happened? Who is responsible?

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It is difficult to see. Am I right in guessing that one kid turned left
across the path of a second kid?

That's what I thought at first - and that's pretty much what happened,
but not in the way you think.

You may find the answer in this photo...

damn those pavement cyclists

Congratulations, James.

The pavement cyclist did a wide high speed turn into the child going
ahead normally.

In photo 1 she's on the pavement. In photo 2 she's obscured by the
instructor. And in photo 3 she's tangled up with another child.

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash01a
www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash02a
www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash03a

Clive George said:

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:14:04 -0800 (PST), POHB <[email hidden]>

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On 29 Nov, 08:37, [email hidden] wrote:
> > >> >> I caught this crash on camera.
>
> > >> >> What happened? Who is responsible?
>
> > Does this offer any further clue?
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> >www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash02a-Hide quoted text -
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> Flared trouser caught on crank or in the chain?
>

Squirrel assault?

No.

Earthquake causing a hole to appear, send the kids flying, then just as
quickly seal up as if nothing had happened?

No.

Tom Crispin said:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:14:04 -0800 (PST), POHB <[email hidden]>

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>>>>> I caught this crash on camera.
>>>>> What happened? Who is responsible?
> Does this offer any further clue?
> www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/crash/crash02a-Hide quoted text -
Flared trouser caught on crank or in the chain?

Squirrel assault?

No.

Bored now!

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I took a group of 12 Year 2 children (age 6/7) to Greenwich Park to
hone their cycling skills.

I caught this crash on camera.

What happened? Who is responsible?

You?

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Tom Crispin said:

Even with the youngsters I teach them to do the:
ABCD

[snip]

And a pretty good job of reminding this oldster. Thank you.

Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.

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I took a group of 12 Year 2 children (age 6/7) to Greenwich Park to
hone their cycling skills.

I caught this crash on camera.

What happened? Who is responsible?

You?

Yes, I guess you are right too. If only I hadn't taught 'em to ride a
bike in the first place we'd never have been in Greenwich Park and
they'd have been enjoying a nice safe arithmetic lesson instead.

Tom Crispin said:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:14:55 -0000, "Schrodinger's cat"

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I took a group of 12 Year 2 children (age 6/7) to Greenwich Park to
hone their cycling skills.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I caught this crash on camera.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What happened? Who is responsible?

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You?

Yes, I guess you are right too. If only I hadn't taught 'em to ride a
bike in the first place we'd never have been in Greenwich Park and
they'd have been enjoying a nice safe arithmetic lesson instead.

Yup. Riding a bike may be healthy but it is the arithmetic that
counts...

...d

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"Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I took a group of 12 Year 2 children (age 6/7) to Greenwich Park to
hone their cycling skills.

I caught this crash on camera.

What happened? Who is responsible?

You?

Yes, I guess you are right too. If only I hadn't taught 'em to ride a
bike in the first place we'd never have been in Greenwich Park and
they'd have been enjoying a nice safe arithmetic lesson instead.

I didn't mean to irritate you, but you did ask. When you take a bunch of
kids to a park you are responsible for their safety. Who is if not you? That
doesn't mean to say that accidents will not happen. I think most reasonable
adults would say that an occasional accident is to be expected in these
circumstances. But you are still responsible for their safety!

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> I took a group of 12 Year 2 children (age 6/7) to Greenwich Park to
> hone their cycling skills.
>
> I caught this crash on camera.
>
> What happened? Who is responsible?

You?

Yes, I guess you are right too. If only I hadn't taught 'em to ride a
bike in the first place we'd never have been in Greenwich Park and
they'd have been enjoying a nice safe arithmetic lesson instead.

I didn't mean to irritate you, but you did ask. When you take a bunch of
kids to a park you are responsible for their safety. Who is if not you? That
doesn't mean to say that accidents will not happen. I think most reasonable
adults would say that an occasional accident is to be expected in these
circumstances. But you are still responsible for their safety!

You didn't iritate me. My reply was a light-hearted dig at those who
really do feel that cycling is a dangerous activity. I know and
understand my responsibilities, and as I hope is evident from the
photos, I do try to take every precaution, necessary and unnecessary,
with the safety of my charges.

Over ten years as a primary school teacher, and three years as a
cycling teacher I have come to understand that most parents take a
sensible view about accidents. I have had to deal with two fractures:
a broken arm from a child tripping on stairs, and a broken ankle from
slipping on mud. Parents see this as a part of childhood.

The worst cycling incident I have had to deal with is a nasty graze on
the hip - and that has been it - apart from trivial knocks and bumps.

However, what would really scare parents would be an incident
involving a car. Parents are well aware that a simple fall from a
bike will result in nothing more serious than a fracture; cars kill.

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Tom Crispin said:

I know and
understand my responsibilities, and as I hope is evident from the
photos, I do try to take every precaution, necessary and unnecessary,
with the safety of my charges.

Seen and unseen. You make a difference. Thank you for what you do and
the way that you do it.
--
Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.