Crank size on a muni.

You've opened a can of worms here. Used to be 165's or even 170's would
be the standard answer. 150's seem to be coming in vogue. I do mostly
downhill and feel for that the 165's are just right.

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i tihnk your height enters into it as well. i'm a pretty tall guy and
150s always felt a little short, 165s however feel perfect.

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I'm assuming you are looking into a 24" muni. Thats what I have, with
165mm cranks. I used to really like the control they gave me. When I
rode other people's munis with shorter cranks I did not like the trade
off of extra speed for less control.

I used to be what I would call a technical muni rider, meaning I
usually walked up the steep hills and stayed away from any trails
longer than a few miles. I got most of my enjoyment from riding down or
over challenging terrain. The long cranks are good for this type of
riding.

Now I am turning into more of an XC rider. Most of my enjoyment comes
from spending a few hours out in the woods (or such) and getting a
workout (not saying I don't love riding an impossible hill every now
and then). There are times I wish I had shorter cranks.

Which do you think you will be? For technical riding you're going to
want longer cranks. For XC type riding you will want shorter cranks.
Assuming you can't compromise, try to figure out which type of riding
you will do most, and buy accordingly.

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I am an XC rider: my life changed when I used a 145 cranks setup.
I go faster on single tracks and even uphill is better (this is
probably due to my bad spinning technique) the only thing that was
worst was technical downhill
but I am learning to use my brake and I think I will overcome the loss
of control.
Now I need to learn very technical things ... but I do not know how to
jump 🙁

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If you are buying a 24" muni, and are in decent shape, I would start
with the 150mm cranks. In a few months, and depending how technical
you get, you will probably want to go to a 137 or 125 crank.

If you get the new KH24, the Moment cranks are drilled for 125/150, a
great muni option for a 24".

If you get a cotterless crankset (like the Nimbus), the cranksa re only
around $22US a set, so it's not too expensive to upgrade later.

Personally, I love the 125/150 combo, and just carry a small pedal
wrench with me.

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If you want to ride fast and seriously don't intend to ride uphill much,
150s should be right.

If you want to ride over *everything* and do intend to eventually get
your proper exercise and ride up the hills as well, then go with the
165s.

Each has their plusses and minuses of course. I rode my Wilder with
170s for the first few years and it was great, but a little slow. Now I
have shorter cranks on there (I think 145s; whatever Profile makes).
I'm much faster on the smooth, but technical downhill is definitely
harder!

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I think longer cranks (> 150s) are dictated by what you plan to ride
down more than what you plan to ride up.

Personally, I stubbornly ride 150s, and I routinely ride up stuff that
people walk. Until I meet someone that can ride up something I can't
because they have longer cranks, I refuse to use longer. I started
with 165s, and they felt too long for my 31" inseam legs. I think
uphill is so much more about technique than having longer cranks.

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The important thing about cranks is you can change them. It is not a
permanent, once and forever irrevocable decision that you are making.

KH seems to know a thing or two about unicycles, and puts 185s on the
KH24. That works for me.

I ride the Holy Roller (26" muni) on 125s, and I sometimes ride fairly
tricky off road stuff on a 700x with 114s.

Long cranks take the strain off long descents. Technique is more
important on ascents.

Buy standard, and change when you know more about what suits you, your
stlye, and your local terrain.

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Mikefule said:

KH seems to know a thing or two about unicycles, and puts 185s on the
KH24. That works for me.

185? Maybe you mean 165, which used to be the standard crank length on
the KH Freeride. I think Kris himself runs 150s, which is also what I
prefer for most of my riding, although I put on 165s for Moab.

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Mikefule said:

The important thing about cranks is you can change them. It is not a
permanent, once and forever irrevocable decision that you are making.

KH seems to know a thing or two about unicycles, and puts 185s on the
KH24. That works for me.

I ride the Holy Roller (26" muni) on 125s, and I sometimes ride fairly
tricky off road stuff on a 700x with 114s.

Long cranks take the strain off long descents. Technique is more
important on ascents.

Buy standard, and change when you know more about what suits you, your
stlye, and your local terrain.

Just double checking the crank length for a KH 24 and UDC USA shows a
max.length crank of 165 mm and not 185's is a 185 length available
elsewhere?

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165- real nice and controled
150- can go a tiny bit faster, control is still good but don't feel
nice
110- super fast, bails are more often, hills are too hard

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I ride 165s on my KH/Duro/DX24/Yuni Muni. I love them for total control
everywhere. The speed lacks on big open trails, but is worth it when
you get to the technical spots... 😎

-Tyler

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I ride 165s on my KH/Duro/DX24/Yuni Muni. I love them for total control
everywhere. The speed lacks on big open trails, but is worth it when
you get to the technical spots... 😎

-Tyler 🙂

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UniTyler said:

I ride 165s on my KH/Duro/DX24/Yuni Muni. I love them for total control
everywhere. The speed lacks on big open trails, but is worth it when
you get to the technical spots... 😎

-Tyler 🙂

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phlegm said:

I think uphill is so much more about technique than having longer
cranks.

I agree, but easier w/ 170ish cranks, both in technique and strength,
esp. on really steep or technical trials.

I can't seem to pedal smoothly on my 170's when the cranks are vertical
because my top leg goes too high (and I have long legs- size 34" pant
inseem). Strangely just 5 mm. shorter 165's I tried on tholub's KH
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phlegm said:

I think longer cranks (> 150s) are dictated by what you plan to ride
down more than what you plan to ride up.

Personally, I stubbornly ride 150s, and I routinely ride up stuff that
people walk. Until I meet someone that can ride up something I can't
because they have longer cranks, I refuse to use longer. I started
with 165s, and they felt too long for my 31" inseam legs. I think
uphill is so much more about technique than having longer cranks.

i'm the same as kevin. I'm 5' 6".

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I think 89mm are the ideal. I can still climb waaay steep hills, roll
over anything, plenty of torque and speed. But anything shorter than
that you would probably want a brake for the really steep decents.

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MuniAddict said:

(Haha, gotcha! :p 165's are my favs for all-around)

Dang man, you gotta quit fooling me like that. Not only did you have
me fooled, but I also just placed an order for 89mm ISIS Muni cranks
before I read your "gotcha" line. Dang man. Just dang.

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UniTyler said:

Dang man, you gotta quit fooling me like that. Not only did you have me
fooled, but I also just placed an order for 89mm ISIS Muni cranks
before I read your "gotcha" line. Dang man. Just dang.

Yeah 89's would be too small for even a coker...at least for me. I'm not
a speed demon, which is the only reason I can see for using cranks that
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