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  1. I have 170mm cranks now for MUni but when I get to flat terrain/pavement
    I want to speed with my 110mm cranks. But changing the cranks in middle
    of road is so cumbersome and time consuming, with bunch of specific
    tools needed. Am I the only person with this dilemma? Thanks

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  2. That's why the Schlumpf hub was invented.

    Other people use adjustable cranks. Who wants to carry multiple sets of
    cranks around? The problem is, adjustable cranks are expensive, and may
    not be very strong.

    I don't like using my Coker for MUni for the same reason; changing the
    cranks causes wear & tear, both to the axle and to the threads on the
    cranks. Yup, a pair of adjustables would sure be nice...

    Nathan Hoover has some that I think work well for him.

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  3. Actually the only extra tool you need to carry is a crank puller,
    provided you have a 'crank/pedal tool' (http://tinyurl.com/bc3r4)
    already. You can use the pedal wrench end of the crank/pedal tool on
    the crank puller - not a perfect fit but it saves you having to carry
    another wrench. There's no way to avoid the extra weight of the spare
    pair of cranks, however.

    I am considering doing this in the upcoming 160km / 100mile Lake Taupo
    Cycle Challenge - starting on 125mm cranks for the first hilly 100km
    then changing to 114mm cranks for the reamaining flat 60km.

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  4. leadpan said:

    Am I the only person with this dilemma? Thanks

    Nope. I don't like changing the cranks either, and I'd never consider
    doing it in the middle of a ride.

    There have been some discussions about adjustable crank ideas. One
    thread is here: 'Adjustable crank idea'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30079). And in
    particular 'this post' (http://tinyurl.com/clzt9). One of those two
    designs would make crank changes on the road an easy task. Now someone
    needs to make the cranks. 🙂

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  5. In the past I would change the Coker cranks all the time to match the
    terrain I was riding, after a couple years of that my hub threads where
    destroyed. I swapped out to my old KH hub and how I can switch between
    170mm and 140mm in less then 5 minutes which I often do when I hit a
    long uphill. I have thinking about cutting down a set a cranks to 110mm
    to give me something for the road, so if anyone has a old set of KH
    cranks laying around PM me.

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  6. Although a 6in. crank would remain that length why could'nt a second or
    third set of 9/16ths holes be drilled and tapped into a crank arm?

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  7. cheech said:

    Although a 6in. crank would remain that length why could'nt a second or
    third set of 9/16ths holes be drilled and tapped into a crank arm?

    It can be done. 'daVinci Designs'
    (http://www.teamspirit.net/comp.html#cranks) makes such a crank.Some
    people have used the daVinci crank on unicycles. The cranks have pedal
    holes for 130/150/170.

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  8. john_childs said:

    Nope. I don't like changing the cranks either, and I'd never consider
    doing it in the middle of a ride.

    There have been some discussions about adjustable crank ideas. One
    thread is here: 'Adjustable crank idea'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30079). And in
    particular 'this post' (http://tinyurl.com/clzt9). One of those two
    designs would make crank changes on the road an easy task. Now someone
    needs to make the cranks. 🙂

    It would be -fantastic- if someone made a decent set of adjustable
    cranks, maybe based on one of the designs in the links above.

    Has anyone got any idea of why so much effort has gone into making
    geared hubs, and so litle into adjustable cranks?

    Adjustable cranks have to following pros-

    1. simplicity- fewer mechanical problems
    2. fits in with the 'unicycle ethos' of 'doing more, with less'
    3. once in production, would be much cheaper
    4. could be easily fitted to any existing unicycle

    Certainly, while I would not be interested in aquiring a geared
    unicycle, i would -definitly- want to purchase some decent adjustable
    cranks.

    So, why is there so little interest in making them?

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  9. cheech said:

    Although a 6in. crank would remain that length why could'nt a second or
    third set of 9/16ths holes be drilled and tapped into a crank arm?

    This is possible but there is potential to bash your ankles and
    possibly rip trousers. I have ruined several pairs of trousers by
    catching the trouser leg end on my kooka cranks and imagine this could
    be an issue with the above design. (Of course you could just make sure
    you wear shorts)

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  10. U-Turn showed me a set of cranks that had three holes drilled in the
    cranks, effectively providing three different crank length sizes...
    with no more effort required than changing a pair of pedals. I suppose
    these aren't any good for Muni?

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  11. HardcoreCokerRider said:

    U-Turn showed me a set of cranks that had three holes drilled in the
    cranks, effectively providing three different crank length sizes...
    with no more effort required than changing a pair of pedals. I suppose
    these aren't any good for Muni?

    I'd say those daVinci cranks (available through 'LiveWire'
    (http://www/livewireunicycles.com) too) are most suited for the full
    range of road and mild off-road riding, though I don't know that anyone
    has really pushed them outside those boundaries. I did get a set to
    Australia with a 36" wheelset, but don't know what the rider has been
    able to do with them.

    Edit: tuck in your laces! 😉

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  12. The best adjustable cranks I've seen are Bronson Silva's rotational
    crank. You dialup the lenght you want than screw it down. I don't
    have a photo sorry.
    But here it is:
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/50814872/53203184LJuoxV

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  13. er, that's 'LiveWire' (http://www.livewireunicycles.com). (thanks Tom!)

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  14. Nathan Hoover had a different design of adjustable cranks when he came
    to NZ for the Moonride. From memory the part of the crank near the axle
    was a square sleeve inside which the inner adjustable part of the crank
    slid. They could be adjusted to multiple lengths, but its weak point
    was that the inner sliding part of the crank was held in place by
    little set screws which would get shaken loose. At least thats what
    happened when ridden offroad.

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  15. I have been enjoying 'daVinci'
    (http://www.teamspirit.net/comp.html#cranks) Adjustable Cranks
    170/150/130 for over 6 months now with perfect success. They seem very
    well made.

    I ride them on my Coker, mostly on pavement. Changing effective crank
    length is easy: use a pedal wrench to remove and reinstall the pedals
    in a different set of holes. Then adjust seat height and away you go.

    I like these cranks. I can hardly wait to install them on my
    soon-to-arrive 'LiveWire' (http://www.livewireunicycles.com/) 36 with
    Stockton bomber wheel. WooHoo!

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  16. U-Turn said:

    er, that's 'LiveWire' (http://www.livewireunicycles.com). (thanks Tom!)

    ?huh

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  17. GizmoDuck said:

    ?huh

    I had the link wrong Ken; nothing to do with the Gecko crank.
    🙄

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  18. I just visited Tom Miller, who has made custom unicycles for 30 years.
    I'm sure he would be willing to make adjustable cranks for someone. You
    can contact Tom at 765-452-2692

    Tom has a machine shop in his garage and just finished making a
    "walking" unicycle. It's kind of like walking on stilts. He made it the
    way his customer wanted, but he's not happy with the design yet.

    He's now working on a very small bicycle for another customer. The size
    that can fit in your hand.

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